I use 32ga kanthal with 3/4 wraps and get 1.5-1.7 consistantly using 1.5mm wick and 1 1.5mm flavor wick.
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I use 32ga kanthal with 3/4 wraps and get 1.5-1.7 consistantly using 1.5mm wick and 1 1.5mm flavor wick.
Awesome, just got done making my first coils ever and they work great right from the start!! Didn't get any burnt taste at all!
I did torch the silica and wire before making them...This just confirms the store bought ones I have are junk and gave me nothing but trouble..What a difference.
Thanks Face Meat and everyone else for showing me how to do this..
having 2 flavor wicks Constricts the juice wicking. It makes it harder for the silica to wick by having 2 wicks under the stem and ontop of the coil. harder to wick gives alot of the bunrt taste because of the constriction.
Hey guys, i've read through most of this post and tried rebuilding my protank 1/2 heads. I've attempted about 7 times and all 7 times i have burnt the rubber groument. I've twisted the legs, made sure each leg is ground. Kept fiddling around to make sure theres no hot spots but the rubber part keeps getting burnt everytime i dry burn.
I'm using 2mm or 3mm ekowool with 32 a1 kanthal with 4/5 wraps. Somone please help xD
I'm using 2mm or 3mm ekowool with 32 a1 kanthal with 4/5 wraps. Somone please help xD
Watch some videos on youtube where people show you how to do a dry burn. Its supposed to be quick/short each time.
Have you tried to just use the coil without dry burning it? I don't think its required.
I've rebuilt both heads that came with my kanger protank(as well as all the heads that came with my knock-off protanks). By far, the rebuilds out preform the heads that came with it. I have found that using thick juice kills them pretty fast (bobas). So I've been rebuilding everything I have. So far, everything I've rebuilt surpasses everything as it was from the manufacturer. The wicks it came with was plagued with dry hits. I've had no dry hits with my own creations. None...zero....and i barely know what I'm doing.
I do know I'm using no flavor wicks. I'm using 3mm wick and 32 guage kanthal. My wraps are haphazzard and "hit or miss" but when they hit, they work and work well. Thusfar my hit to miss ratio is about 5:1 in my favor. I do use a needle to wrap as shown in the OP, afterwards I untwist the wick to make it expand to the coils and trim them. My resistance ranges from 1.9 to 2.1 ohms. I try for 5 wraps. My best rebuild was done after a 6 pack of shiner bock.....so....
I just wanted to say thanks for this thread, I've learned tons....and vape on...
I do know I'm using no flavor wicks. I'm using 3mm wick and 32 guage kanthal. My wraps are haphazzard and "hit or miss" but when they hit, they work and work well. Thusfar my hit to miss ratio is about 5:1 in my favor. I do use a needle to wrap as shown in the OP, afterwards I untwist the wick to make it expand to the coils and trim them. My resistance ranges from 1.9 to 2.1 ohms. I try for 5 wraps. My best rebuild was done after a 6 pack of shiner bock.....so....
I just wanted to say thanks for this thread, I've learned tons....and vape on...
Okay... I've been toying with this same thing for the past week and since I'm a rebuilding noob your mileage may vary:
1. Looping/twisting the legs just didn't do anything for me. I tried several variations of it but this produced no effect or made the problem worse.
2. The dry burn makes an absolute difference and I do it for every coil I make (but it could just be that my wire has yucky things on it). Do you only burn the grommet while dry burning and not while vaping? burnt taste? I get the burnt taste and that's the problem I'm fighting.
So, I use almost the same general materials as you. In my coils I'm using 3mm silica wick or 2mm ekowool with 32 awg A-1 Kanthal. I'm guessing with 4/5 wraps you're probally getting anywhere from 1.7-1.9 Ohms. As I've been learning, the low-resistance types of coils (like this) tend to burn the leads hot. It's just the nature of the beast. Also, I didn't notice the burnt taste until I started vaping more subtle flavors ... leading me to believe that some people may just not be noticing this burnt taste in their LR heads.
As such I've found two different things that I can do that absolutely make a difference:
Solution 1: I ordered up some AGA positive post insulators (silicone) from kidney puncher to replace the rubber grommet in my rebuilds. It's kind of tricky to get it in the head as it's a fair bit bigger than the original grommet. This also has the added benefit/detriment of tightening up the draw. Still, this seems to have eliminated the problem for me.
Solution 2: I've been told that making a higher resistance coil should keep the leads/legs from heating up nearly so much. Instead of the 4/5 wraps (1.7-1.9 Ohms) I use 7 wraps (2.2 - 2.3 Ohms). Of course, I have to use a higher voltage setting with this method. I started doing this today. So far I've gone through about 4mL in two separate tanks with two rebuilt 2.3-ohm coils and the results seem promising.
Proposed solution 3: I was THIS close to ordering one of those wire welding battery contraptions just to try this. Setting up the legs with NR wire (I realize that it's "low resistance wire" no "not resistance wire") and using kanthal in the middle for the coil should conceivably alleviate the problem. I still want to try this but I can see that doing this for such a small head might get annoying.
I've tried not using the dry burn method and i'd still get the same result with the rubber grommet getting burned after about 2-3 puffs xD.
I'll definitely have to try your solutions out cliffy and see what results i get. Thanks for the input =)
Cliffy if you wouldn't mind taking a picture of your 7 wrap protank head. Idk how you fit that many wraps in that tiny atty like that xD
I'll definitely have to try your solutions out cliffy and see what results i get. Thanks for the input =)
Cliffy if you wouldn't mind taking a picture of your 7 wrap protank head. Idk how you fit that many wraps in that tiny atty like that xD
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Like I said, I'm still quite new to the rebuilding thing. Here's the best picture my phone can take. It's not the best looking thing in the world but there are no shorts and it comes in at 2.3 Ohms.
Oh, and this is actually an EVOD head but same difference, right? I'm using 32 awg A-1 Kanthal and it's quite tight. I don't think I could fit one more coil in it...
FWIW, when I dry burn it I have to pulse it for quite long at 4.1V for all 7 coils to light up (and thus threaten the grommet) but the 5 inner coils light up quickly. I'm hoping this is also the case when I'm vaping it.
I just built this head. It's my third today and that rounds out all my EVODs. The first two work quite well. I don't TASTE anything burnt but I'll check the grommet in a few days to see what's up.
Oh, I think someone mentioned it before, too ... before using, you should prime your wicks with a few drops of juice directly on both ends of the wick until it doesn't take anymore. Makes things much easier.
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oh... and that ring on the far left... it's not a coil, it's a dark mark from dry burning. I should boil my heads after dry burning but after .5ml the taste washes away ...
I drilled out the holes bigger, also drilled on the mod to have as much air flow as possible and vape it the genesis type. On coils, I wrap as many coils as possible, between 4ohms to 4.5ohms. Flavor increase too much that I have to remix my juice. The flavor on it now is equal to, or closed to if not equal, to my RSST.
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FYI: My Protank 2 arrived yesterday. I ripped out the stock coil and wick, as I always do, to wrap my own. The heads that came with the Protank 2 have no-resistance wire fused to the resistance wire.
Has anybody seen this in Protank replacement atomizer heads before, or is this something they're only doing for the Protank 2?
I tear it out and don't look at it lol.
They day I use nr wire is the day I die!
They day I use nr wire is the day I die!
My first mod, the Vamo V3 should be arriving next week along with a protank. You're awesome xD
Thanks,
Nate
Thanks,
Nate
Do you mean the legs are a different/thicker wire than the coil part? Then yes..
I bought 6 replacement coils from my local shop that came in individual wrappers with a aluminum backing and notice some had the thicker wire legs and some didn't..
They were so bad taste wise that that was the final straw that got me into rebuilding.
Idk if they have been soldering NR wire in the protank 1 but for sure they have been doing that in the protank 2 replacement heads. All the replacements heads i bought within about 2 weeks had NR wire soldered at the end of the wires for the protanks.
So cliffy i also got those insulators in from kidneypunchers. I wrapped 6/7 coil on 2mm ekowool and my SVD kept saying 4.5 ohm O.O? I tried using it and the draw was sooooooo tight that i felt like i was sucking through a straw with a piece of jello clogged in it lol. I removed the aga insulator put back a washed rubber grommet and the end cut off.
The ohms came out to 2.5, i'm happy and no burnt rubber taste yet =) Idk those aga insulators seem a little too big to be able to be a viable solution xD. If i'm doing it wrong just say so.
Nvm i cut the edges of the aga insulator and the airflow is fine now =)
The ohms came out to 2.5, i'm happy and no burnt rubber taste yet =) Idk those aga insulators seem a little too big to be able to be a viable solution xD. If i'm doing it wrong just say so.
Nvm i cut the edges of the aga insulator and the airflow is fine now =)
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What "edges" did you cut off? I've got a baggy full of those AGA insulators that I'd love to use on the Protank.
I have found if you flip the rubber grommet thats on the post above the wicks upside down it elements the burnt taste you may get pretty well. Also prevents air bubbles forming around your wicks which I have found cause it to leak and of course make it have a burnt taste. My rubber grommet in the base doesnt get burnt that often though. I usually get my heads to 2.1-1.9. Use 15W and 3.5V and it hits great!
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