Kanger T3 now available in "Cloudy White"... or not.

[Tsuki]

Okay, so among other issues I've had that dethrone the T3 imo, perhaps the weirdest one is the tank body turning color from clear to opaque white after cleaning.

Now, I don't pretend to be a scientist, nor would I care to suggest this issue is limited to the "Kanger" brand of devices. All I care is that I put these puppies in a mixture of 1 part vinegar 3 parts hot water (my standard cleaning regime), and after 15 minutes this is what I walked back into. No amount of scrubbing and/or rinsing will get rid of this.

It makes me wonder what chemicals the Kanger assembly line is using to "wash" these devices. Which also is slightly worrysome considering all I do is rinse these out-of the box and proceed to fill and vape.

All I can definitively say is that I've "cleaned" other similar type clearo bodies (stardusts, ce3) with my same vinegar (or vodka, depending on which is in stock at the time) to water ratio and I've never seen this result before.

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Other things that piss me off about T3:

• Gurgling - never, ever had so much gurgling with any other device.
• Tension hold on centerpin - After so many times of pulling down the pin, it gets loose and unusable. that design has to go.
• Condensation/Juice-in-the-mouth - The design is so poor you have to be kind of an engineer to will papertowel down that tiny hole in the mouthpiece to effectively soak up the condensation.
• Mouthpiece design - This could have been very easily been produced to allow 510 drip tips... this would also solve the problem with cleaning up condensation... but it wasn't. Lazy.
• Coils too tightly wrapped around wicks - this is a no-no, its just asking for gunk to clog up there and burn.
• No room to work around - You need a really small toolset and small hands to recoil/change wicks/effectively clean easily.
• Bottom is too thick - doesn't mesh well with some ego fitted APV without a connector

With all that said though, when these are on, they're on, and they're still the best experience I've had with a clearo (which is sad.) I've tried all the stardusts and ce3s and even with this laundry list of issues I would still use it over them. Its dirt cheap and If I get too annoyed I can just replace the heads. T3 is "okay" and we're moving in the right direction but its nowhere near perfection. I am still concerned about this chemical reaction... I turned to clearos specifically to get a cleaner vape experience and to move away from filler products. If we're going to be throwing unknown chemicals into the mix, I want to know about it, especially if the residue is going to stick on the products after shipment.

 

[vapmex]

I have been using the same Kanger T2 tank for about 3 months and the color has not changed a bit, the T3 tanks looks the same for me..... a leason learnt is that boling the tank makes the metallic tip base to detach from the plastic tank. I needed to use clear silicon to reatachh the tip base again... from there I can say that to clean the tank you just need to rinse it in running warm water for a few minutes and this clean all the odors from the tank.

Okay, so among other issues I've had that dethrone the T3 imo, perhaps the weirdest one is the tank body turning color from clear to opaque white after cleaning.

Now, I don't pretend to be a scientist, nor would I care to suggest this issue is limited to the "Kanger" brand of devices. All I care is that I put these puppies in a mixture of 1 part vinegar 3 parts hot water (my standard cleaning regime), and after 15 minutes this is what I walked back into. No amount of scrubbing and/or rinsing will get rid of this.

It makes me wonder what chemicals the Kanger assembly line is using to "wash" these devices. Which also is slightly worrysome considering all I do is rinse these out-of the box and proceed to fill and vape.

All I can definitively say is that I've "cleaned" other similar type clearo bodies (stardusts, ce3) with my same vinegar (or vodka, depending on which is in stock at the time) to water ratio and I've never seen this result before.

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Other things that piss me off about T3:

• Gurgling - never, ever had so much gurgling with any other device.
• Tension hold on centerpin - After so many times of pulling down the pin, it gets loose and unusable. that design has to go.
• Condensation/Juice-in-the-mouth - The design is so poor you have to be kind of an engineer to will papertowel down that tiny hole in the mouthpiece to effectively soak up the condensation.
• Mouthpiece design - This could have been very easily been produced to allow 510 drip tips... this would also solve the problem with cleaning up condensation... but it wasn't. Lazy.
• Coils too tightly wrapped around wicks - this is a no-no, its just asking for gunk to clog up there and burn.
• No room to work around - You need a really small toolset and small hands to recoil/change wicks/effectively clean easily.
• Bottom is too thick - doesn't mesh well with some ego fitted APV without a connector

With all that said though, when these are on, they're on, and they're still the best experience I've had with a clearo (which is sad.) I've tried all the stardusts and ce3s and even with this laundry list of issues I would still use it over them. Its dirt cheap and If I get too annoyed I can just replace the heads. T3 is "okay" and we're moving in the right direction but its nowhere near perfection. I am still concerned about this chemical reaction... I turned to clearos specifically to get a cleaner vape experience and to move away from filler products. If we're going to be throwing unknown chemicals into the mix, I want to know about it, especially if the residue is going to stick on the products after shipment.

 

[Susaz]

Same here. I've used citric and not a single drop of fogging whatsoever.

I agree with you with the center pin to the battery. It works great on one battery, change to the next and it doesn't work anymore. Wiggling the pin ever so slightly breaks the coil sooner or later.

I don't remove the flavor wicks, it keeps it from gurgling. I loosen the base a tad, as I get down I tighten it back and vape it to the bottom with little gurgling. Remove the base and blow into the tube (no need to drain it) onto a paper towel. Also happens when vaping at low voltages, some liquids require 4/4.2 volts and some 3.7 are great.

I don't know what to make of it. The T2 is too moist, and gurgles far more than the T3. But bases last so little due to the defective contact that I really don't know if it's worth keeping it and recommending it.

 

[jazzbo]

Day 23 of almost constant use from one of the two T3's I bought (haven't even opened the other yet) and I've had none of the issues you've experienced. But I haven't placed the plastic into vinegar (which is an acid). Just a hot water rinse is all I've had to do. I've had gurgling twice which was my fault for letting juice get into the center tube while filling. I finally had to do a dry burn and thorough head cleaning a few days back...then right as rain.

If anything, I guess this points out the sad inconsistencies in Chinese manufacturing and lack of effective QA....

 

[Tsuki]

I'm going to try a thorough head cleaning again and possibly remove some of the wick fibers as its been wrapped too tightly causing gunk buildup. I tried a dryburn while viewing the coils and it seems only one part of the coil is heating up... on all 3 of my heads. That may explain some of the issues. Yeah, the QA is disappointing

 

[Susaz]

I'm going to try a thorough head cleaning again and possibly remove some of the wick fibers as its been wrapped too tightly causing gunk buildup. I tried a dryburn while viewing the coils and it seems only one part of the coil is heating up... on all 3 of my heads. That may explain some of the issues. Yeah, the QA is disappointing

Use a little peroxide on the head. A couple of drops directly into the coil. That happened to me with a Vivi Nova head, heats up only partially... White vinegar is also a great thing as well as Coke too... I leave mine overnight in alcohol, rinse them and then burn the coil a little... Not a single head popped yet!

 

[Susaz]

Okay, so among other issues I've had that dethrone the T3 imo, perhaps the weirdest one is the tank body turning color from clear to opaque white after cleaning.

Now, I don't pretend to be a scientist, nor would I care to suggest this issue is limited to the "Kanger" brand of devices. All I care is that I put these puppies in a mixture of 1 part vinegar 3 parts hot water (my standard cleaning regime), and after 15 minutes this is what I walked back into. No amount of scrubbing and/or rinsing will get rid of this.

It makes me wonder what chemicals the Kanger assembly line is using to "wash" these devices. Which also is slightly worrysome considering all I do is rinse these out-of the box and proceed to fill and vape.

All I can definitively say is that I've "cleaned" other similar type clearo bodies (stardusts, ce3) with my same vinegar (or vodka, depending on which is in stock at the time) to water ratio and I've never seen this result before.

Image:
View attachment 152442

Other things that piss me off about T3:

• Gurgling - never, ever had so much gurgling with any other device.
• Tension hold on centerpin - After so many times of pulling down the pin, it gets loose and unusable. that design has to go.
• Condensation/Juice-in-the-mouth - The design is so poor you have to be kind of an engineer to will papertowel down that tiny hole in the mouthpiece to effectively soak up the condensation.
• Mouthpiece design - This could have been very easily been produced to allow 510 drip tips... this would also solve the problem with cleaning up condensation... but it wasn't. Lazy.
• Coils too tightly wrapped around wicks - this is a no-no, its just asking for gunk to clog up there and burn.
• No room to work around - You need a really small toolset and small hands to recoil/change wicks/effectively clean easily.
• Bottom is too thick - doesn't mesh well with some ego fitted APV without a connector

With all that said though, when these are on, they're on, and they're still the best experience I've had with a clearo (which is sad.) I've tried all the stardusts and ce3s and even with this laundry list of issues I would still use it over them. Its dirt cheap and If I get too annoyed I can just replace the heads. T3 is "okay" and we're moving in the right direction but its nowhere near perfection. I am still concerned about this chemical reaction... I turned to clearos specifically to get a cleaner vape experience and to move away from filler products. If we're going to be throwing unknown chemicals into the mix, I want to know about it, especially if the residue is going to stick on the products after shipment.

Have you tried CE3? Try the 3ml version from Gotvapes, I love them! The only downside is that only wick with 50/50 juices MAX, and if you use the sleeveless version (I like it better) you're prone to lose driptips a lot! But they vape oh so great!!!

 

[Tsuki]

Have you tried CE3? Try the 3ml version from Gotvapes, I love them! The only downside is that only wick with 50/50 juices MAX, and if you use the sleeveless version (I like it better) you're prone to lose driptips a lot! But they vape oh so great!!!

Yeah, as I mentioned in OP, I have used CE3 and I would still prefer kangerT3 over them even with all of the problems I listed. out of 4 packs of CE3 I am plagued with battery shorts on all of my batteries and leaking issues. The shorting out is the most problematic, I'm not always in a position to reboot my batteries. The post connectivity issues with CE3 are a big issue. Even with wick clipping and regular cleaning maintenance I still experienced dry, scratchy, burnt hits. My main vape is 80%PG/20%VG... this is a very thin juice. Its unacceptable performance so I dropped it. Using Boge's and T3 off and on now while I wait for new PV and Vivi Nova shipment, we'll see how that goes.

 

[bruther]

There are things that I don't like about the T#, but until something better comes along, I'm pretty much stuck with it.
A few things I do to help with some of the issues you're having are:

Every time I fill it, I blow excess liquid out of the tube then stick a napkin in the end to get anything that's left. This works pretty well for me.

To try and keep excessive liquid from getting in there, I make sure the clearo is screwed together very tightly. It seems that more juice gets in, when I don't have it screwed together, as tight as possible.

I can't help you with the clouded plastic, I don't clean mine.

 

[Tsuki]

The funny thing is I actually do use a papertowel after a refill to wipe anything out of the post and blow it out. Sometimes I feel like i don't even know where the gurgling is coming from although there are only two options. It can really get annoying after a while.

I know from the video on rebuilding them, the two pieces of loose wick are suppose to just rest on top of each other on the coil, when I pulled mine apart my excess wick was just a ball of shredded thread. the coils are also fused to each other after minimal usage from being sloppily put together. I know my shipment came from a batch with little-to-no quality checking.

 

[orion7319]

Okay, so among other issues I've had that dethrone the T3 imo, perhaps the weirdest one is the tank body turning color from clear to opaque white after cleaning.

Now, I don't pretend to be a scientist, nor would I care to suggest this issue is limited to the "Kanger" brand of devices. All I care is that I put these puppies in a mixture of 1 part vinegar 3 parts hot water (my standard cleaning regime), and after 15 minutes this is what I walked back into. No amount of scrubbing and/or rinsing will get rid of this.

It makes me wonder what chemicals the Kanger assembly line is using to "wash" these devices. Which also is slightly worrysome considering all I do is rinse these out-of the box and proceed to fill and vape.

All I can definitively say is that I've "cleaned" other similar type clearo bodies (stardusts, ce3) with my same vinegar (or vodka, depending on which is in stock at the time) to water ratio and I've never seen this result before.

Image:
View attachment 152442

Other things that piss me off about T3:

• Gurgling - never, ever had so much gurgling with any other device.
• Tension hold on centerpin - After so many times of pulling down the pin, it gets loose and unusable. that design has to go.
• Condensation/Juice-in-the-mouth - The design is so poor you have to be kind of an engineer to will papertowel down that tiny hole in the mouthpiece to effectively soak up the condensation.
• Mouthpiece design - This could have been very easily been produced to allow 510 drip tips... this would also solve the problem with cleaning up condensation... but it wasn't. Lazy.
• Coils too tightly wrapped around wicks - this is a no-no, its just asking for gunk to clog up there and burn.
• No room to work around - You need a really small toolset and small hands to recoil/change wicks/effectively clean easily.
• Bottom is too thick - doesn't mesh well with some ego fitted APV without a connector

With all that said though, when these are on, they're on, and they're still the best experience I've had with a clearo (which is sad.) I've tried all the stardusts and ce3s and even with this laundry list of issues I would still use it over them. Its dirt cheap and If I get too annoyed I can just replace the heads. T3 is "okay" and we're moving in the right direction but its nowhere near perfection. I am still concerned about this chemical reaction... I turned to clearos specifically to get a cleaner vape experience and to move away from filler products. If we're going to be throwing unknown chemicals into the mix, I want to know about it, especially if the residue is going to stick on the products after shipment.

Yep, my Kanger T2's would cloud like that with my cinnamon juices. Don't ever clean those with vinegar or use acidic juices in them. They can crack and even melt. Only polypropylene, glass or metal tanks can withstand the acids. If its a clear plastic you have to mind what you put in them and what you use to clean them with. That's why I switched to mini Viva novas with metal tanks.

 

[Tsuki]

Yeah I think you nailed it with the cinnamon. I've used cinnamon juices exclusively in those t3's (Geoff's Blend@TastyVapor) I think it reacted with the vinegar rather than some unforeseen chemical wash on the assembly line. Mystery solved, or at least satisfied. Thank you for your post

 

[orion7319]

Yeah I think you nailed it with the cinnamon. I've used cinnamon juices exclusively in those t3's (Geoff's Blend@TastyVapor) I think it reacted with the vinegar rather than some unforeseen chemical wash on the assembly line. Mystery solved, or at least satisfied. Thank you for your post

Yeah, Tasty Vapor is where I get my cinnamon juice from. It's too good to give up IMOP to keep using Kangers. They hold up to his cherry coke though which I am using in one of my Kangers now.