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I hope I don't get moved for asking this here. It still pertains to the Subtank Mini though!!

So I ordered a mech mod clone a couple weeks ago after finding a deal on vapingcheap.com. This will be my first, and I'm planning on initially using it with my subtank mini. Anyway, so I ordered Efest IMR 18650 2500mah 35A batteries to go with it. Are these safe to use with the subtank? They won't be overtaxing the rba or OCC will they?

Yup. I use them and the Efest 3100mAh IMR 20A
 

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Yup. I use them and the Efest 3100mAh IMR 20A

The efest 3100mah 20a batt is not the best choice for low sub ohm builds. It's only 20A pulse and 6.8A continuous ouput as tested by a couple of reputable independent labs. They are rewrapped LG's as I recall. They tested to the full 3100mah however. They worked well at .8ohm and higher builds on my mech. Currently using Sony VTC4's and Samsung 25R's. Both great batts imo.

The Efest 35A 2500mah is 20A continuous discharge.

Not real fond of how Efest rates their batts at pulse discharge rates with no indication of continuous. Just say'n, buyer beware. Hate to see anyone get hurt
 
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The efest 3100mah 20a batt is not the best choice for low sub ohm builds. It's only 20A pulse and 6.8A continuous ouput as tested by a couple of reputable independent labs. They are rewrapped LG's as I recall. They tested to the full 3100mah however. They worked well at .8ohm and higher builds on my mech. Currently using Sony VTC4's and Samsung 25R's. Both great batts imo.

That's great info.
I think he's more asking if using a mech mod with his mini is gonna be ok. I don't have a mech and only limited knowledge on them so I didn't answer.
No adjustment beyond changing coil ohms....the battery provides what it has to give... that's all I know about mechanicals.
 

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The efest 3100mah 20a batt is not the best choice for low sub ohm builds. It's only 20A pulse and 6.8A continuous ouput as tested by a couple of reputable independent labs. They are rewrapped LG's as I recall. They tested to the full 3100mah however. They worked well at .8ohm and higher builds on my mech. Currently using Sony VTC4's and Samsung 25R's. Both great batts imo.

The Efest 35A 2500mah is 20A continuous discharge.
Not real fond of how Efest rates their batts at pulse discharge rates with no indication of continuous. Just say'n, buyer beware. Hate to see anyone get hurt

Thanks cigatron. I will use them only for low wattage then. Good advice.
 

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The efest 3100mah 20a batt is not the best choice for low sub ohm builds. It's only 20A pulse and 6.8A continuous ouput as tested by a couple of reputable independent labs. They are rewrapped LG's as I recall. They tested to the full 3100mah however. They worked well at .8ohm and higher builds on my mech. Currently using Sony VTC4's and Samsung 25R's. Both great batts imo.

The Efest 35A 2500mah is 20A continuous discharge.

Not real fond of how Efest rates their batts at pulse discharge rates with no indication of continuous. Just say'n, buyer beware. Hate to see anyone get hurt

OK so, what does the 35A mean or matter to me then? Will these efest batts be safe to use on a 0.5 and above build on my subtank mini?
 

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Got my Subtank Mini in the mail today and so far am really enjoying the 1.2 ohm coil! Have only ran 1 tank of juice through it so far but I look forward to many more.

I ordered through myvaporstore.com and the RBA has the clear insulator so I am not sure if I will ask for a replacement from Kanger, order one or just use it as is.
Randal, I am surprised, I got mine from MyVaporStore and it had the tan/brown insulator. I did email them first and asked if it was the new 'peek' insulator and they responded that it was. Sure enough it was.

If I were you I would email them and ask for a replacement insulator. Just my 2cents.

The PEEK one is clear. The old bad one is off white-ish. That is what all the YouTube reviews(PBasardo, etc) say, and confirmed with Kanger. I would call your vendor back and talk to someone with knowledge. I got mine at vaporbeast and emailed them about it also, and they said all of theirs are the new CLEAR peek ones.
 

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The PEEK one is clear. The old bad one is off white-ish. That is what all the YouTube reviews(PBasardo, etc) say, and confirmed with Kanger. I would call your vendor back and talk to someone with knowledge. I got mine at vaporbeast and emailed them about it also, and they said all of theirs are the new CLEAR peek ones.


Yet now I'm all confused because when I google PEEK it does look white/tan ish
 

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Yet now I'm all confused because when I google PEEK it does look white/tan ish

Ok, found this...I guess tan is the new 3rd one!

Kanger has kind of screwed the pooch on this one. They now have 3 different insulators, and the first 2 are a problem... and not just with tank cracker juices. The first insulator, the white one, has been admitted by Kanger to be a problem. The second, the clear PEEK insulator replaced the original white and is also a problem material. Kanger has admitted this too. I have the Kanger mini with the clear insulator (that was supposed to fix the problem) and it has deteriorated on my tank after 3 fills by visible cracks around the airflow hole and discoloration of the material from clear to an opaque muddy color. I have only vaped a strawberry with a little caramel in it, so tank cracking juice is not an issue here. Kanger has, since the release of the mini with the clear PEEK insulator, released a new blended PEEK material that is light brown. I have ordered this to see how it performs. The new insulators are on sale at $0.49 for 2... 1 for the 25mm tank and 1 for the 22mm mini. You can contact them for a free replacement but you will need your box for the serial number, authenticity number, where you bought the tank, and address information. I just decided to buy the insulators rather than dig up all the information. Hopefully this newest material is tested well and will work better. Time will tell
 

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Ok, found this...I guess tan is the new 3rd one!

Kanger has kind of screwed the pooch on this one. They now have 3 different insulators, and the first 2 are a problem... and not just with tank cracker juices. The first insulator, the white one, has been admitted by Kanger to be a problem. The second, the clear PEEK insulator replaced the original white and is also a problem material. Kanger has admitted this too. I have the Kanger mini with the clear insulator (that was supposed to fix the problem) and it has deteriorated on my tank after 3 fills by visible cracks around the airflow hole and discoloration of the material from clear to an opaque muddy color. I have only vaped a strawberry with a little caramel in it, so tank cracking juice is not an issue here. Kanger has, since the release of the mini with the clear PEEK insulator, released a new blended PEEK material that is light brown. I have ordered this to see how it performs. The new insulators are on sale at $0.49 for 2... 1 for the 25mm tank and 1 for the 22mm mini. You can contact them for a free replacement but you will need your box for the serial number, authenticity number, where you bought the tank, and address information. I just decided to buy the insulators rather than dig up all the information. Hopefully this newest material is tested well and will work better. Time will tell


PICS of your failed insulator?

Also, I'd like to know if there is a statement from Kanger that the clear is faulty or just something someone said?
 

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Let's set things straight.

The first iterations of the mini (call it beta version) were white, and nasty/faulty.

The second were transparent - and praised by Pumpkin Busardo as ”the real PEEK” wonder insulator.

As life proved in very little time after, the lauded transparent ones were also crap.

Enter the third iteration: the tan/brownish insulators. Which are what Kangertech USA already provides for like 50 cents if one wants to buy them (also crap, but unly because they don't really fit the Mini well, only the original Subtank.
 

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The original white insulator that came with the full size Subtank is still fine for me. RY4 liquids mostly if it matters.

What's the problem again? Is it chemical degradation from liquid or heat? Does anyone really know?


Officially Kanger says could fail with harsh juice. Pluid.

Here's mine after a week of solid use trying to make it fail with Cinnamon etc. So I'm calling shenanigans.
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OK, I admit to being lazy here (don't want to read the entire thread, or even the search results) but can somebody tell me what gauge wire Kanger is using for the pre-built coils supplied with the RBA?

Thanks for indulging my lack of effort here...:p

Matching my effort with yours.... It feels like 26.
 
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