Kayfun Lite Plus -vs- Aspire Nautilus -vs- Kanger (AeroTank, UniTank, and ProTank 2, 3, Mini) ???

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DoctorBuzz

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Finally settled on bottom coil designs. And these seem to be the best of them all.

I have had pleasurable experience with the ProTank 2 Mini and the ProTank 3, so they're definitely on my list. I think that all of them allow you to replace the coils yourself, which is extra sweet.

But I just came across the Aspire Nautilus (are there other Aspires I should look into?), and the ONLY thing holding me back is the cost of the replaceable heads, and the coils are NOT user-replaceable. But this seems to be the choice for those who simply want to pay rather than play... in order to vape.

The Kayfun Lite Plus is something I've been looking at for a while, but there's so many. The Black Edition supposedly has a smaller juice flow channel doo-hickey.... so I just don't know. I've seen some people say that the Aspire Nautilus actually hits better than the KFL, but of course, there are so many different KFL clones, that I just don't know where to start in comparing all these...

Any words of wisdom??
 

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Not sure which rumors you like listening to, but I own one KFL+ Black and have another on the way. Nothing in the world wrong with this edition.

Still, If you have settled on Bottom coils you may as well toss KayFun out. It is a mid-coil tank.

Seroiusly though, you cannot use KFL in comparisons. It is an RBA and the rest are basically Clearomizers.

Whille weighing everything, remember this - A good Vape may make Clouds, but Clouds do not guaranty a good Vape.
 

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Not sure which rumors you like listening to, but I own one KFL+ Black and have another on the way. Nothing in the world wrong with this edition.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...295-kayfun-lite-plus-black-clone-edition.html

From that thread, I gathered that there are TWO black editions. There's the "Black Edition KFL" (which is made from Tobecco design) and the "Black Russian" (which is made from Russian 91% design). It's kinda difficult to determine when people are talking about which one, because they both start with Black, and even the Tobecco "clone" uses "Russian Style" in its ebay title.

The best I could tell, the Tobecco clone has shallower juice channels, and it seems to have screws that are of lesser quality... but it's all kinda subjective, because I'm not sure if anybody has both of these Black Editions side by side.

Still, If you have settled on Bottom coils you may as well toss KayFun out. It is a mid-coil tank.
Good point. I'm just not looking for a top-coil. They are the more likely ones to leak. I hear of some issues of the KayFun leaking, but it is usually due to seals or something else that can be resolved. The best part of the Black Ed. Kayfun is that it comes with extra seals.

Seroiusly though, you cannot use KFL in comparisons. It is an RBA and the rest are basically Clearomizers.
I can. And I will. Each of these styles has an overall experience, which can be compared by one person. And I'd like to hear those subjective experiences. Most of the people who use the Nautilus after using a KFL say that the Nautilus is the only clearomizer (non-RBA) that they'd be completely happy with. Soo... I'm hoping someone here can say, if they were stranded on an island and could only bring one atty, would they prefer the KayFun Lite [Plus]??? ... or would they prefer the Aspire Nautilus??? On "good Vape" experience alone.

Also, the ProTanks *are* rebuildable, and I've even seen that it's easier to build a micro-coil on a ProTank than a KFL. These atts are definitely comparable in certain ways, but not in all ways. With these three choices I'd like compared, they do make a sort of Venn diagram... but if you could only have one, which one has the better tradeoffs??

I am in the same boat . what version of the nautilus are you looking to get ? I just want one that works .
I was actually unaware that there was more than one version of the Nautilus. What different versions are available??
 
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Well, I have an authentic KFL+ and protank 2s with aero tank bases. I tend to carry 3-4 flavors with me every day because I can't just vape one flavor all day long. I rebuild all of my coils at 1.5 ohms or as close to as possible. I have not tried the Nautilus yet but I may give it a shot down the road..

Honestly, if you were only going to choose one, I would go with a KFL. Although, ever since I put the aero tank base on my pt2, I have been loving them. Leaving the airflow wide open is a perfect smooth draw for my tastes. My KFL is pretty much dedicated to Bobas Bounty / Gorilla Juice, and I rotate certain flavors through my pro tanks.

The main reason I haven't gotten the Nautilus is it seems to be a pain to rebuild them. Rebuilding pt heads are really easy and they work great for me
 

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Well, I have an authentic KFL+ and protank 2s with aero tank bases. I tend to carry 3-4 flavors with me every day because I can't just vape one flavor all day long. I rebuild all of my coils at 1.5 ohms or as close to as possible. I have not tried the Nautilus yet but I may give it a shot down the road..

Honestly, if you were only going to choose one, I would go with a KFL. Although, ever since I put the aero tank base on my pt2, I have been loving them. Leaving the airflow wide open is a perfect smooth draw for my tastes. My KFL is pretty much dedicated to Bobas Bounty / Gorilla Juice, and I rotate certain flavors through my pro tanks.

The main reason I haven't gotten the Nautilus is it seems to be a pain to rebuild them. Rebuilding pt heads are really easy and they work great for me

I've actually been highly considering this while watching some YouTube videos --- putting the Aerotank base on a PT 2.

The PT3 dual coil design is flawed, since they stacked one coil on top of another, horizontally. Silly mistake. The Aspire dual coil design is obviously better. But.... dual coils should burn the juice faster, so they're not all they're cracked up to be.

I actually saw that the PT 2 heads wouldn't fit on the complete Aerotank, but I have heard of others swapping out the Aero base. I might actually go this route, even tho the Aspire Nautilus is supposedly way better, just because the PT coils are much easier to rebuild and the Nautilus heads are RIDICULOUSLY expensive. Maybe someday...
 

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This is a good thread for me! I'm questioning different tanks and reason there of.

Is there a thread I can read that breaks it down a bit..

Top vs bottom, dual vs single coil,,, Options and why??
I mentioned a little bit about single -vs- dual coil design, above, soo....

My take on the top -vs- bottom coil design is this ---> Initially, I thought that the top coil was the way to go, because any n00b would be able to keep any device upright, unscrew anything, and NOTHING would leak. However, when you put a top coil device in your pocket, sit down, stand up, etc.... some juice will leak out of the top. A bottom coil, however, will NOT leak. It also works with gravity, whereas when the top coil gets low, you have to "tip and roll" to get the juice up the long wicks. Bottom coil (or mid coil, as the case may be)... are WAYYY better than top coils. The Aspire Nautilus might technically be a mid coil, as well, because the chimney (terminology?) looks very similar to the Kayfun.... but yea. Top coils are for n00bs.
 

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Simply meant it is less than logical to compare an RBA to a Clearo, than to compare Clearo's and compare RBA's.
Then you would work out the best of both from each category.

Seems kind of like comparing an Orange, a Grape fruit and sirloin steak.

Stranded on an Island - RDA full metal jacket and building supplies. Already had members complaining of Nautilus breaking while simply taking apart to clean. Maybe they Dropped/bumped or otherwise and cracked, then as pressure was released it popped.

Your not telling me anything in stating what can be rebuilt. I have rebuilt every Device I have purchased except Cartomizers andNano clearos...............oops, nix Cartos - rebuilt a couple of Smok shorties.(clear case) I enjoy tinkering and learning the ins/outs of things.:)

CE4 is a pain, ce5 and T2 better but not much. BCC's are pretty simple. I'll save up and do 10 kanger BCC at a time.

Moving into RBA's, even with just a few builds under my belt, on the latest acquisitions, I can say the Kayfun style tanks are simplest to build and even simpler to maintain. I have 2 rocket tanks and the Black - all have the same build platform.
Much simpler than the Ithakas and easier to work on(due to size) than a ProTank or Evod platform.

The KFL+ Black is not cloned from Tobaco. It is Based of Tobaco's KFL clone with requested upgrades.
Remember there is always Hcigar/ EHPro/ Others with similar production pieces.


Must have impressed Tobeco as they have now released their own Silver Edition incorporating all upgrades.

One last thing, I am NOT a fan of Tobeco. Actually once swore I would never own anything they built. I guess they have gotten that message loud and clear from many and are stepping up their game. Still, this is my only purchase knowingly involving their product.
 
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I have a PT 2 and mini 2. I loved them because the flavor was excellent and the vapor was decent.

I picked up a Russian 91% Black and have not touched my PT since. The flavor is better and the vapor is a lot better. I am honestly gonna buy at least one more.

I want to pick up a Nautilus just because they look cool and get amazing reviews.

If you are thinking of getting a Kayfun, just do it. They are honestly that good.
 

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This is a good thread for me! I'm questioning different tanks and reason there of.

Is there a thread I can read that breaks it down a bit..

Top vs bottom, dual vs single coil,,, Options and why??

No thread can truly answer that. Unfortunately I feel that everyone pretty much needs to try all of these things for themselves. It's a bit of wasted money that most of us go through. For example tons of people rave about carto tanks on here but I hate them with a passion. It's all about what you might like best and what works for you. Some of my juice tastes better to me in a clearo rather than dripping and vice versa.

On the other hand, I don't think I've seen one negative thing about the kayfun style devices. It's always risky ordering a device you've never used before. But boy is it nice when that gamble pays off! All in all I would recommend starting cheap with each type and when you find what you like invest in a quality product.

For me, darker flavors taste best in kfl or a warmer vape. Lighter flavors like fruits taste better in a bottom fed clearo because it's a cooler vape. I use an atomic rda for testing flavors and the occasional cloud chase. Not too often because I like to relax and puff my vape opposed to taking huge lung hits.

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Finally settled on bottom coil designs. And these seem to be the best of them all.

I have had pleasurable experience with the ProTank 2 Mini and the ProTank 3, so they're definitely on my list. I think that all of them allow you to replace the coils yourself, which is extra sweet.

But I just came across the Aspire Nautilus (are there other Aspires I should look into?), and the ONLY thing holding me back is the cost of the replaceable heads, and the coils are NOT user-replaceable. But this seems to be the choice for those who simply want to pay rather than play... in order to vape.

The Kayfun Lite Plus is something I've been looking at for a while, but there's so many. The Black Edition supposedly has a smaller juice flow channel doo-hickey.... so I just don't know. I've seen some people say that the Aspire Nautilus actually hits better than the KFL, but of course, there are so many different KFL clones, that I just don't know where to start in comparing all these...

Any words of wisdom??

I haven't tried the nautilus, just the SS pyrex regular Aspire clearos, with that said i'd go for a KF or KF clone(my top recommendation would be a KF 3.1 clone or a Russian because they don't whistle) I have 5 KF atomizers right now and i wouldn't change them for anything, all the other things in my desk are collecting dust(Aspires, i30s, i16s, RSST, AGAs, IGOs, 6 carto tanks :S)

Unless you really need the pyrex glass or can't live with the look of the nautilus go for a KF :)
 

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I've gone to Aspire now pretty much exclusively since the first one I got the Aspire Vivi Nova 3.5 ml. However I also have a their Aspire CE5 BDC and Aspire T3 BDC which also perform well. I've had the Nautilus about a week and a half now where it has found a home on my VAMO V5. The rest ride on one of many twist types for daily use away from home and for testing juices. I have others but them pretty much just sit on the self now.
 

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cartos are raved about? Everyone ....s on cartos.. and to me cartos give me way better flavor than all the crap clearomizers I have tried.
I just put in an order for the nautilus. I really hate the size of it.. I wish it were smaller. I have tried some kayfun lite clones and they really sucked.. I kept getting a harsh burny hit. I would LOVE to get a good clone.. And than get the nano kit for it to make it smaller.. I really like smaller devices. Ever since I moved to mods I miss small ecigs like the egos etc.

To the guy who rebuilt cartos.. How the hell did you do it.. I would love to know how to rebuild these mini 1.7 ohm cartos
 

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crxess... Which kayfun clone do you think is made the best right now? people seem to love the 3.1.. but its too large for me.. i hear such different things.. some say eh pro. some say tobecco.. some are saying the black edition.. not sure which black edition.. the juice channels are too shallow.. I really would like to get a clone thats decent.. I just have no idea which one. which is the newest clone with the most upgrades?
 
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