Keep it Simple

[Fidola13]

ive been experimenting with all kinds of different builds from regular Clapton’s to Hive builds. I’ve been using different wire as well - Ni80, Ni200, SS 430 etc

I’ve come to the conclusion that none are any better for flavor, ramp up time and cleaning than my simple single spaced coil SS316L.

The ramp up delay on “exotic” coils annoys the hell out of me. I realize it’s microseconds but I notice it.

Also, wow do these builds get gunky!! I vape a lot of sweet juice and the amount of crud in the nooks and crannies is disgusting lol!! And even with a dry burn, brushing, rinse and dry burn again I still think it tastes funky. Probably in my head but it’s my head that’s vaping off of it!!

The SS316L simple spaced coil is soooo perfect for me. Great flavor and doesn’t funk up as badly as fancy coils also real easy to clean. Depending which attie I’m using will determine the gauge and targeted ohms.

I’m glad I’ve been trying different coils though so I know I’m not missing anything !! So now I’m off to rebuild my RBAs!! !!

 

[puffon]

I came to the same conclusion.
My battery lasts a lot longer also.

 

[Eskie]

Simple is good. I still like a Clapton build but it does take a little more effort to clean up. All those coils fancier than that from framed stapled to French braid triple twisted with a double axel thrown in are beautiful works of art, and look great in photos, but IMO, aren't really made for actual vaping. More for showing off skill in interweaving wire.

 

[bombastinator]

Agreed. There are a few specialized uses for some (but not all) exotic coil types. Regular daily vaping with your average atty doesn’t qualify though.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Could not agree more.

ive been experimenting with all kinds of different builds from regular Clapton’s to Hive builds. I’ve been using different wire as well - Ni80, Ni200, SS 430 etc

I’ve come to the conclusion that none are any better for flavor, ramp up time and cleaning than my simple single spaced coil SS316L.

The ramp up delay on “exotic” coils annoys the hell out of me. I realize it’s microseconds but I notice it.

Also, wow do these builds get gunky!! I vape a lot of sweet juice and the amount of crud in the nooks and crannies is disgusting lol!! And even with a dry burn, brushing, rinse and dry burn again I still think it tastes funky. Probably in my head but it’s my head that’s vaping off of it!!

The SS316L simple spaced coil is soooo perfect for me. Great flavor and doesn’t funk up as badly as fancy coils also real easy to clean. Depending which attie I’m using will determine the gauge and targeted ohms.

I’m glad I’ve been trying different coils though so I know I’m not missing anything !! So now I’m off to rebuild my RBAs!! !!

 

[ScottP]

ive been experimenting with all kinds of different builds from regular Clapton’s to Hive builds. I’ve been using different wire as well - Ni80, Ni200, SS 430 etc

I’ve come to the conclusion that none are any better for flavor, ramp up time and cleaning than my simple single spaced coil SS316L.

The ramp up delay on “exotic” coils annoys the hell out of me. I realize it’s microseconds but I notice it.

Also, wow do these builds get gunky!! I vape a lot of sweet juice and the amount of crud in the nooks and crannies is disgusting lol!! And even with a dry burn, brushing, rinse and dry burn again I still think it tastes funky. Probably in my head but it’s my head that’s vaping off of it!!

The SS316L simple spaced coil is soooo perfect for me. Great flavor and doesn’t funk up as badly as fancy coils also real easy to clean. Depending which attie I’m using will determine the gauge and targeted ohms.

I’m glad I’ve been trying different coils though so I know I’m not missing anything !! So now I’m off to rebuild my RBAs!! !!

Came to the same conclusion myself. SS316L simple round wire is all anyone needs. The rest is just more work.

 

[stols001]

I'm having fun playing around with exotic coils at the moment, it's all good. But yes, IDK if I'd call them an "improvement" I'm just in a playing around phase.

Also, I am never going to wrap my own exotic coils etc. so like, when the vapocalypse comes, I will be planning to enjoy simple round coils aplenty.

Anna

 

[FΛDED]

The SS316L simple spaced coil is soooo perfect for me.

Same, SS has great flavor, dual coil aliens or claptons too. It's the wire I like the most. TBH, I use fancy and regular round builds. I like changing things up a lot. RDAs mostly.

 

[Fidola13]

Same, SS has great flavor, dual coil aliens or claptons too. It's the wire I like the most. TBH, I use fancy and regular round builds. I like changing things up a lot. RDAs mostly.

Im all about RDAs and now RDTAs. I’m sure I’ll mix it up at some point since I have so many premade SS 430 Claptons & Fused Claptons from AVS. At least I only paid .99 cents for 10 coils. I bought a spool of it as well.

I just seem to notice any difference from a simple round build and a fancy build. I wish I did. I felt like I was missing something but after experimenting I’m satisfied I’m not

 

[Fidola13]

I came to the same conclusion.
My battery lasts a lot longer also.

Doesn’t drink up as much juice too. Lots of pro’s for it.

 

[bombastinator]

Im all about RDAs and now RDTAs. I’m sure I’ll mix it up at some point since I have so many premade SS 430 Claptons & Fused Claptons from AVS. At least I only paid .99 cents for 10 coils. I bought a spool of it as well.

I just seem to notice any difference from a simple round build and a fancy build. I wish I did. I felt like I was missing something but after experimenting I’m satisfied I’m not

There are a few uses. They’re handy for competitive cloud chasing and getting cloud volume out of very small DL build decks. I have (had anyway, the seals died) a Solomon2 that really liked fused Claptons. That’s the small build deck issue though

 

[FΛDED]

Im all about RDAs and now RDTAs. I’m sure I’ll mix it up at some point since I have so many premade SS 430 Claptons & Fused Claptons from AVS. At least I only paid .99 cents for 10 coils. I bought a spool of it as well.

I just seem to notice any difference from a simple round build and a fancy build. I wish I did. I felt like I was missing something but after experimenting I’m satisfied I’m not

Nice! I think the way only to tell a noticable difference is by using a dual coil RDA. Use it as you normally would with round wire. And rebuild it with a Clapton/Alien. It just enhanced the flavor/clouds, for me. I remember the Tugboat RDA which was the first RDA I put my own Claptons (single core) in, back when Aliens/Claptons were new and hyped. Me being an avid 4 year builder of micros built a simple Clapton and installed it and it amazed me how much more flavor and clouds came out of that RDA over my regular round micro coil builds. But that was my experience.

I still use round wire builds. Depends on the RDA/RTA and post holes size. Some even shine with normal round, like my KF5 and KFL. All personal preference in the end. But SS out of all the wires, just tastes and performs the best for me too.

 

[FΛDED]

Doesn’t drink up as much juice too. Lots of pro’s for it.

Complex builds drink juice & normal rounds don't consume as much. My fave pro too. But I don't have juice issues, I keep and try a lot. I love guzzling cuz I get to open another bottle! A pro. But can also be a con, lol.

 

[Fidola13]

Complex builds drink juice & normal rounds don't consume as much. My fave pro too. But I don't have juice issues, I keep and try a lot. I love guzzling cuz I get to open another bottle! A pro. But can also be a con, lol.

I’m not concerned about how much juice I use either because I DIY. If I didn’t I’d have to pace myself since I’m on a fixed income from health issues.

 

[sonicbomb]

I'll mirror what others here have said - plain round wire builds are (in my opinion) the way to go for the majority of applications.
Obviously everyone is different and these are just my opinions but -

Claptons have better flavor - Maybe, maybe not. In my experience coil placement, airflow, wicking and the atomizer design itself are the overbearingly important factors, not coil composition and design.

Claptons produce more vapor - Possibly. But if so, by a small margin and at the cost of far lower efficiency and relatively higher power consumption. The reason being the outer wrap of claptons is passively heated by the core wire rather that actively carrying current and heating itself. High mass coils will have relatively slow ramp up/down times. The ramp up can be overcome by over-powering the coil, but that invested power will be wasted as the coil cools down long after the user has finished the hit. This also means the coil will continue to cook the juice in the absence of any cooling airflow.
@Boden did some very interesting testing on coil efficiency here.

Claptons look cool - Yes, they do.

I've found claptons are the only way to go on my TFV8 RBA deck. I don't really know why, but I think it's to do with the way the coils affect airflow within the chamber as they are comparatively large compared to plain coils.

 

[Murphy2278]

I’m constantly thinking to myself, why all the exotic builds? Sure it looks great and maybe it’s fun and all, but I’ve tried plenty of them and always end up tossing them for my single 316L builds. They just work and that’s all there is to it. I also sometimes pick up a metallic taste from the fancy builds that I never pick up from my 316L simple builds. I use mostly 22, 24, and 26 gauge wire and that seems to fit all my needs pretty well. What I have really been liking is the Scottish roll. I have a plethora of Japanese pads and this is the best way I’ve found to use them. Really seems to hold that juice in the coil and also gives much better warning when things are starting to get dry. You won’t get that sudden dry hit that shocks the hell out of you. Simple builds, Scottish roll, and I’m a happy man. I’m also a flavor chaser and use a lot of single coil rda/rta’s, so perhaps that’s part of it too. Love the quick response and the flavor is always there.

 

[Derwoodski]

I haven't yet tried an exotic coil that works as well or lasts as long as my simple parallel wraps of 24g Kanthal, and I haven't even tried SS

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[Murphy2278]

I haven't yet tried an exotic coil that works as well or lasts as long as my simple parallel wraps of 24g Kanthal, and I haven't even tried SS

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I’m looking at that and guessing it’s about a .5 to .6 build. Does that fire worth a damn on the Pulse?

 

[Baditude]

I've always promoted the K.I.S.S. Principle when making rebuildable coils.

 

[charlie1465]

I'm playing with exotic coils at the moment but ramp up time annoys me a lot as well.

I think i'd probably agree with @sonicbomb that flavour has more to do with the RDA/chimney design than any coil

Having said that I enjoy playing with them and heey after all experience is the best teacher