Keeping Mechanical Mods easy, safe and cheap

[quiter]

I am new to this site but not at all new to vaping in fact I was making my own mods four years ago. When I signed up for this site and started reading I was amazed at the responses to new vapors regarding mechanical mods. It almost seems as if people think the only good use for a large battery mechanical mod is to do sub-ohm vaping. Why is this? And why tell new guys to shy away from mechanical mods because of this new phenomenon?

With the current cost of Mechanical mods and tanks so low they almost seem like a no brainer choice to me for people new to vaping. Why make it so difficult with all the advanced sub-ohm stuff?

First of all any Big battery mod's most important feature is the battery. That doesn't have to be half as complicated as it's made out to be either. Good protected batteries can be found at low costs as long as you buy quality batteries from good vendors. Sanyo, Panisonic or Samsung are great batteries at good prices. Actually they are cheaper than the cheap Trustfire/ultafire batteries per ACTUAL mAh. Why? Because the @#$#fire batteries are just junk batteries with a shrinkwrap on them that can claim to be anything. Good batteries with high quality cells maintain their high voltage much longer than any of the cheap ones regardless of what the mAh rating says.

These Sanyo batteries from Fast Tech will keep their high voltage for as long as any battery on the market. Are panasonic 3400's better? A little but that extra mAh is not really in the useable area, the Sanyo's will keep you in the sweet spot just as long for less.

$11.03 Sanyo UR18650F 18650 2600mAh Protected Rechargeable Lithium Batteries (2-pack) 2-pack - protected at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

use coupon code BLF for an extra 5% off.

Next up is the charger. Do you need an expensive fancy charger? Nope not if you have bought good batteries in the first place. Cheap chargers are bad idea if you use cheap @#$#fire batteries. You will not have a problem if you use good batteries.

$3.86 Portable Digital Battery Charger for 18650 Rechargeable Batteries - US plug / charges two 18650 at once at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

The mod itself, depending on how you like the looks and button there are lots of great options all of which are much cheaper than anything they had out four years ago when I was making mods. Here is a good cheap mod that you really can't go wrong with.

$18.75 K100 Telescoping Mech Mod E-Cigarette Battery Compartment - silver at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Delivery system. Tons of choices around and all of them are dirt cheap compared with the days of yesteryear.

Here is another good one.

$3.69 Mini VIVI NOVA Detachable Electronic Cigarette Atomizer (2.0mL) - translucent at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Add some heads for the vivi nova (1.8 ohm is what I like best) and you are still only talking about $40. That is such a bargain compared with anything around just a short while ago.


Of course this is only one example of what you can put together and make an amazingly good mechanical mod set. But it shows that it doesn't have to be complicated or expensive to get a really first rate system. If you stick to the basics and keep it simple it's as safe as can be and you will have a mod that lasts for years and years.

 

[Papadragon]

Thank you thank you . I hope some people read this. Mech mods are as safe as any mod . I have been useing mech mods for 5 month now and have had no I repeat no problems . Yes I do sub ohm but that's my choice. But a mech mod will still hit hard with a1.5 ohm atty with a protected battery ! Thank you for this maybe so people will have some knowledge now

 

[brock957]

Well said. Bravo.

 

[Papadragon]

The bravo goes to quiter !

 

[skyztheLynnit]

I just bought my first mech the other day.. $12.. just couldn't NOT buy it at that price.. i have no idea how to use it (on it's way from honk kong) but honestly.. i was afraid because I've heard the "be careful!" with mechs ad nauseum..
at some point you have to trust you've taken as many precautiins as you can.. i don't do sub ohm.. because I'm not sure it gives you a better vape..

Anyway.. my point.. i will try those batts out OP! as far as the charger.. i really need something that will shut off when the charging is finished.. i got nitecore for that reason.

 

[skyztheLynnit]

I see you down there, Baditude protecting us.. someone has to lol

Don't i NEED this in my mech? Along with good batts?
Smoktech VapeSafe Fuse

Or this
Batteries : Vape Safe Mod Fuse 2

 

[SissySpike]

I agree with most of what you said except the charger why skimp there? There are good quality battle tested Xstar single bay chargers for 8$ and double bay for 15

If the battery is the single most important part of a mod why would you trust them to the cheapest piece of crap charger you can find?
I agree you dont have to get the most expensive either.

Also batteries are most vulnerable to failure while charging. So advising some one to trust their home to the reliability of a the cheapest charger available is just plane bad advise IMO

 

[Glen Snyder]

I'm going to sit this one out...

 

[quiter]

Thanks guys, I was almost afraid to post this not because I didn't know it was true but because I didn't feel like getting flamed for going against the grain with sub-ohm. My point wasn't to bash sub-ohm at all just to point out that a big battery mod doesn't need to be used that way. Plus when people do get more into vaping there is always that option later if they choose to do it. I like to keep things simple and there really isn't anything hard about buying good batteries and mechanical mod.

 

[quiter]

I agree with most of what you said except the charger why skimp there? There are good quality battle tested Xstar single bay chargers for 8$ and double bay for 15

If the battery is the single most important part of a mod why would you trust them to the cheapest piece of crap charger you can find?
I agree you dont have to get the most expensive either.

Also batteries are most vulnerable to failure while charging. So advising some one to trust their home the the reliability of a the cheapest charger available is just plane bad advise IMO

Cheap batteries in an expensive charger are orders of magnitude more dangerous than good batteries in any charger. The cheap chargers have the same basic electronics as the others. But if people feel more comfortable with paying more for the same thing that's fine with me.

Just curious has anyone seen an actual case where someone has started a fire with GOOD protected batteries in a cheap charger?

 

[Papadragon]

I like this guy that started the tread finally a person that does not bash sub ohm . Yes you have the rite to do as you please omg this guy gets it ! Thank you again ! I even like your location

 

[Baditude]

You bring up some great points, quiter. I'll only mildly disagree about your suggestion that you don't need an expensive charger. Do you need a $40 Pila or Xtar VP1 charger? No, but if you can afford one I believe one of the two will be well worth the extra cost in the long run. A mid-level (expense wise) charger will work just as well. I just replaced a Pila that I had for 14 months; one of the charging bays stopped working, so I needed another charger. After some research, I chose the XTar WP6 II and the Nitecore Intellicharger i4, as I have accumulated a high number of different size batteries in the last 16 months.

Mechanical mods will not have the built-in protective circuitry that regulated mods have. If you have a defective juice attachment, a regulated mod's protective circuitry will detect it, give you an error code and refuse to fire - to protect the atty, the mod, the battery, and YOU from potential harm. A mechanical mod may only have vent holes and a collapsable hot spring as safety features, and these are only useful after a battery decides to become a firecracker and prevent your tube mod from becoming a pipe bomb.

Protected batteries you say? I'm not convinced exactly what they protect. Early in my vaping history I had a protected battery (granted, one of your favorite Trustfires) vent into thermal runaway when the fire button of my mechanical mod got stuck in the "on" position in a pants pocket. Luckily I wasn't wearing the pants at the time and that the pants didn't catch on fire. The pocket was burnt when I found the venting battery. This incident would never have happened with a regulated mod because of the auto cutoff that it's protective circuitry has.



Since then, I've been only using safer chemistry IMR batteries in all of my mods, specifically the red AW IMRs. Myself, and ECF battery experts believe that these are the safest batteries that you can use. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...4690-protected-batteries-vs-imr-safety-5.html

If anyone chooses to continue to use a protected battery, I highly recommend also using a Vape Safe Mod Fuse for an additional layer of protection. E- | Cigs | Mods | Batteries | Safety | Vaping | Vape | Safe | TheVapeSafe.com

I began my more serious vaping with mechanical mods, but ever since I got my first regulated mod (a variable voltage Provari) I rarely use my mechs any longer. I prefer being able to adjust the voltage to the particular flavor I'm vaping. I switch between 3 - 4 flavors a day, and typically have a dozen flavors available to choose from at any given time. Each flavor has it's "sweet spot" for fullest flavor depending largely on the voltage used. I'd have a very hard time going back to a fixed voltage device unless there were other variables to make the vape better...such as an RBA. Having said that, I prefer using my RBA's on my Provari's rather than my Silver Bullet mech mod.

I don't have an issue with anyone using a mech mod, they're just no longer my preferred device. And to prove that I'm not biased against mechanical mods, my college age daughter started vaping a couple of months ago and requested that I get her her own mod setup for her birthday. I ended up getting her pink and purple AltSmoke BB's (mechanical mods) topped with Innokin iClear 30 clearomizers in matching colors. Girls like that!

 

[Papadragon]

Vape bling for your daughter how nice