Kraken Hello and Welcome to the ECF. I am new to this though it has also become a hobby, being retired I have plenty of time for my hobbies already have some building supplies in my cart..................
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I sure could use some help and advice on my hCigar Viscious Ant.
Mine is relatively new.
I'm using a regulated box mod with my Kraken.
When I bought it it was built with 4 wraps of #24 wire on each coil with Eko Wool wicks and stainless rope.
It's .2 ohms and it gets hot with a lot my juices.
I'd like to build it at some other level and am looking for recommendations.
I've not built with Stainless rope and Eko Wool yet.
I've looked on You Tube but can't seem to find any dual coil rope and wool builds.
Right now the rope is about 1/4" from the bottom of the tank.
What's the rule of thumb for the rope depth as I've seen several different depths?
I posted this in another forum and got some responses, but you seem to know the Kraken whcih is what I'm interested in.
Thanks for any help and ideas
Bob
Mine is relatively new.
I'm using a regulated box mod with my Kraken.
When I bought it it was built with 4 wraps of #24 wire on each coil with Eko Wool wicks and stainless rope.
It's .2 ohms and it gets hot with a lot my juices.
I'd like to build it at some other level and am looking for recommendations.
I've not built with Stainless rope and Eko Wool yet.
I've looked on You Tube but can't seem to find any dual coil rope and wool builds.
Right now the rope is about 1/4" from the bottom of the tank.
What's the rule of thumb for the rope depth as I've seen several different depths?
I posted this in another forum and got some responses, but you seem to know the Kraken whcih is what I'm interested in.
Thanks for any help and ideas
Bob
Never tried the rope. I found a wool wick dried out to quick and I got hot and burnt taste. I personally would look at getting some 400 mesh. The wick itself I have just off the bottom of the tank. The main thing is not to let your wick touch the sides of the hole or the bottom of this happens you will get hot spots which will throw everything out. I would also recommend building a 1.4 to 2.0 ohm single coil once you have perfected this try a dual but belive me it's not necessary.
Check out this video Micro Coil In A Genesis Atomizer Using Cotton & SS Mesh - YouTube.
Thanks thekraken.
Right now I don't have any mesh, so I'll continue my quest to find what I'm looking for.
Take care
Bob
Right now I don't have any mesh, so I'll continue my quest to find what I'm looking for.
Take care
Bob
Hi, welcome to the forum.I have been some free for 9 months but vaping much longer than that. I use RBAS 100% of the time. I'm 'very familiar with building all kinds of different builds. I must say bottom fed set ups are my favorite and I'm not fond of the genisus type builds. (I think I spelled that wrong) anyway I do have a kraken but I Gabe a major problem with mine. I've built it with every possible configuration their is but still get a awful oil or Solvent type taste. .I have cleaned it repeatedly but still have that solvent like flavor. Do you have any suggestions? I got my kraken through fasttech. No matter the build or material I still taste solvent! I have about 20 RBAS and this is the Only one that tastes so strongly like that. I have even soaked it over night then scrubbed it. Still i have that ultra nasty machine type solvent taste. I have heard of others complaining of the exact same thing with other fasttech rba tanks. Do you have any ideas on how to fix this kracken?? Or idea as to why this may be happening? Thank you kindly. I'd love to be able to use it but it's so awful tasting I just can't stand it. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you
Hey realsis, I know the machine oil problem with the FT Kracken well (Nasty Stuff). I had to take mine apart (including post screws) and boil in dish soap twice to get rid of all the nasty taste. Hope this helps. Good luck.
Thank you so much for the reply! I will give it a try!! I haven't tried boiling it yet! Great tip!! Can't wait to try it!! Yes the taste is soo nasty !! I'm willing to try anything! I can't thank you enough! ! I'll do it first thing tomarrow morning! 
To help make sure you oxidise the wick then wet it with juice and burn it do this a good few times. I make sure my wick is loose in the coil and hole so it doesn't touch. I also boil some cotton wool for half an hour dry it over night then wrap a small amount round the end of the wick so when I put the wick in the coil the cotton it touching the coil. Do not try yet fill your tank up then tilt it until the cotton on the wick is wet. I then leave it tiled and give it 5 to 10 bursts letting the cotton wick in-between. If it tastes a bit crappy still give it some more busts making sure the cotton is nice and wet in-between. You may use quarter of the tank doing this but when it works and is tasting nice it is worth it.
Fantastic I find the flavour with mesh better than cotton wicks and for me the cotton didn't wick fast enough when chain vaping, but everyone is different, and yes you burn through some juice I average a 10ml bottle a day.
The FT Kraken clone needs to be completely picked apart to get rid of all oil. Which is a PITA... getting the center post out. I used one of them bench wices (spelling?).
I think all gennie users got their own little twist on the whole process. As they say, all roads lead to Rome. There is a certain way the end result has to be. How you get there is less important. It does help if you fail a lot tho. Gives you a good chance to take a closer look at how it's not supposed to be. Tilt the atty sideways and fire it up. Wick down. Always wick down with gennies. If one part starts glowing before the others - repeatedly - you got a hotspot issue. If the entire coil starts glowing after just a few seconds, you got wicking issues. If a coil leg starts glowing, like between wick and center post, you got hot leg issues (and you may actually be using an Aga T2).
Obviously the wick has to be wicking. I find that 400 and 500 mesh wicks all my liquids just fine for anything above 0.7 ohms with a 28 awg wire. Seems the 500 wicks better. Not entirely sure, but for some reason I prefer it. It's just a little more of a PITA to work with as it's so soft. Then you have to let air back into the tank when you take liquids out. Else you get a vacuum. Can't imagine this being your problem with the Kraken, tho. Unless the fill hole is plugged. If so, try plugging it with something with a tiny hole. Or unplugging it entirely.
Then the coil has to be... coiling? While you don't want to choke your wick, you certainly don't want your coil to not be in contact at all points. At least with 28 awg wire, it won't really bite into your wick a lot. Thinner wire will. So you can err more on the snug side than the loose. Too snug, tho, and you'll get hotspots you can't sort out. Or a hot leg. Your topmost wrap is your most important one. Not too snug, not too tight. If it's too loose, you can "kink" the excess wire - or reattach to center post. One very easy to make "mistake" is to coil ones coils at a steep incline, then flatten them out when you work out the hotspots. Picture it. It will loosen up the coils. I try to move the coils as little as possible when sorting hotspots. Rather just poke and prod a little. Gently does it.
Then double and triple-check your build by dripping liquids on it and firing it up. Soak the wick if you will. If it's not good now, it won't be good until you dry out the wick again and sort out the issues. Which should be smaller and smaller every time. Shouldn't take more than a couple tries. Else you need to take a closer look again.
As for the tilting. I'm a bit confused about that. I don't think anyone has ever defined what this tilting really is. I think of the "gennie tilt" as a tilt past the 45 degree mark with a full tank. As in, when you need gravity to help your wicking. Other than that... as you say... we tilt anyway. Vaping it vertically would be very awkward. I do avoid the gangsta rapper style, tho.
Obviously the wick has to be wicking. I find that 400 and 500 mesh wicks all my liquids just fine for anything above 0.7 ohms with a 28 awg wire. Seems the 500 wicks better. Not entirely sure, but for some reason I prefer it. It's just a little more of a PITA to work with as it's so soft. Then you have to let air back into the tank when you take liquids out. Else you get a vacuum. Can't imagine this being your problem with the Kraken, tho. Unless the fill hole is plugged. If so, try plugging it with something with a tiny hole. Or unplugging it entirely.
Then the coil has to be... coiling? While you don't want to choke your wick, you certainly don't want your coil to not be in contact at all points. At least with 28 awg wire, it won't really bite into your wick a lot. Thinner wire will. So you can err more on the snug side than the loose. Too snug, tho, and you'll get hotspots you can't sort out. Or a hot leg. Your topmost wrap is your most important one. Not too snug, not too tight. If it's too loose, you can "kink" the excess wire - or reattach to center post. One very easy to make "mistake" is to coil ones coils at a steep incline, then flatten them out when you work out the hotspots. Picture it. It will loosen up the coils. I try to move the coils as little as possible when sorting hotspots. Rather just poke and prod a little. Gently does it.
Then double and triple-check your build by dripping liquids on it and firing it up. Soak the wick if you will. If it's not good now, it won't be good until you dry out the wick again and sort out the issues. Which should be smaller and smaller every time. Shouldn't take more than a couple tries. Else you need to take a closer look again.
As for the tilting. I'm a bit confused about that. I don't think anyone has ever defined what this tilting really is. I think of the "gennie tilt" as a tilt past the 45 degree mark with a full tank. As in, when you need gravity to help your wicking. Other than that... as you say... we tilt anyway. Vaping it vertically would be very awkward. I do avoid the gangsta rapper style, tho.
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I am using 400 mesh with wrapped in cotton at the top also 28 gauge kanthal running at 1.4 ohms I built at least 15 until I perfected it now each build gets better and better then out of nowhere I build something epic that I can't put down until I have a thumping headache ha
The Kraken is a really good RBA, not suitable for beginners though as the coils are hard as hell to attach and work all the hot legs and hotspots out. I found that doing a roll of mesh with a hole in the center and shoving a 1.2mm blunt needle in it when wrapping coils is a good way to get rid of all the hotspots, also running 0.6ohm 12mg DIY liquid on a mech mod, really digging it with dualcoils It's a long learning curve when it comes to kraken.
It's a long learning curve when it comes to kraken.
To be honest there is no proper way of building it, just a matter of trail and error what works for one person may not work for every one. Just pick all the info and tips from people and build it until it works. Good luck to every one and happy vaping
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