Lambo - Need Battery & Charger

[DancingHeretik]

My brother bought a Lambo VV 18650 Tube Mod not long ago. He bought just the mod, not a kit. So, it didn't come with batteries. I looked around and found a review of the Lambo by Vapor Chase. He describes it as a Lavatube 1.0 inside (including 2.5 amp limit) with a Lavatube 2.0 outside.

For some strange reason, my brother just tried to use his regular li-on 18650's in it (which kind of worked, just a little, but not well). He never bothered with getting the right batteries for it because that was when he discovered the Twist. So, he threw the Lambo into a box and forgot about it.

Until yesterday when I came to visit, that is. So, now I have this mod and don't know what batteries and charger to use for it. This (COV IMR18650 High Drain Battery) is apparently the battery I'm supposed to use for the Lambo. But, of course, they're out of stock.

The battery is an 18650 flat-top IMR. And, my brother couldn't get his button-top 18650's screwed quite all the way in. So, apparently the flat-top is going to be a necessity.

I thought IMR batteries were unprotected. Does the Lavatube really take unprotected batteries?

I've been looking around for the right battery. The only flat-top IMR 18650 I've found at RTD Vapor is the MNKE IMR 18650. I've never heard of Mnke. Is it a good brand? I was hoping to find an AW IMR flat-top 18650, but haven't seen one yet.

I'm looking for information on what the restrictions are on a battery for my lavatube/lambo. Does it take an unprotected battery? Does an AW IMR flat-top battery exist? What battery should I use, and where can I find it?

Then there's the charger. I already have the UltraFire WF-188 Smart Charger, which I hate. I bought it because it's supposed to be a good charger, yet cheaper than a Pila (had never heard of Xtar at the time). But, I really like the Xtar MP1S. It's a cute little single battery charger that uses a USB plugin. And, I also have the charger my brother gave me. It says it's a Video/Digital Camera Travel Charger. Here's a pic:

Can any or all of these be used to charge an IMR battery - SAFELY!?

I ramble so much! I'm sorry, but it's the only way I can eventually get to the point. So, I came back through and made all of the actual questions red. I hope that makes this more readable and, therefore, more answerable.

 

[bruiser]

This battery will work, and it's considered one of the best, if not the best. They can be found a little cheaper elsewhere.

Panasonic CGR18650CH 2250mAh 3.7V

 

[DancingHeretik]

I notice it has a little bit of a button-top. Yet, it doesn't seem to really stick out as much as some.

Do you know the exact length, or where I can find out for myself?

 

[bruiser]

If you search for Panasonic CGR18650CH, it should bring up the Panasonic site where the dimensions. It is considered a flat top battery.

 

[DancingHeretik]

I have emails out to vendors right now to get more details. Thanks for the help.

 

[18SixFifty]

If you must buy batteries get the right ones. They can have a button top. There are lots of video's on youtube. Keep in mind the Lambo I an "L Rider".

The IMR has safe chemistry so it doesn't need the protection. It also has less Mah's (Milliamp Hours) than say the Panasonic or some other brands, however as you see not all 18650's are the same length.

It's also a myth that a "high drain" battery is needed for any e-cig. I don't know who started this but it's not true of any e-cig. There is no atty made that needs that many watts. They will simply last less time. This is why a lot of people who use a High drain IMR are constantly complaining that they are not getting the same hours as people who actually use cheaper batteries. (I hear a lot of complaints for Provari users on this)

I haven't tried it but I am guessing that a blue trustfire, 2500 mah would also work but I haven't tried it yet. They are not as long as my other 18650's. I will be finding out on monday.

I have made tons of box mods and it's amazing how much an fraction of an inch can make all the difference. I think L Rider tried keeping their mod as short as possible and blew it a little by not leaving an eighth of an inch extra to accommodate slightly longer batteries.

Good luck and Happy Vaping.

 

[bnrkwest]

High Desert Vapes also carries that mod, I am sure he can help with info on batts and chargers too. bnrk

 

[DancingHeretik]

The IMR has safe chemistry so it doesn't need the protection. It also has less Mah's (Milliamp Hours) than say the Panasonic or some other brands, however as you see not all 18650's are the same length.

It's also a myth that a "high drain" battery is needed for any e-cig. I don't know who started this but it's not true of any e-cig. There is no atty made that needs that many watts. They will simply last less time. This is why a lot of people who use a High drain IMR are constantly complaining that they are not getting the same hours as people who actually use cheaper batteries. (I hear a lot of complaints for Provari users on this)

I thought that any mod that boosts the voltage needs high drain batteries because it's pulling more out of the batteries faster than was originally intended.

 

[18SixFifty]

I thought that any mod that boosts the voltage needs high drain batteries because it's pulling more out of the batteries faster than was originally intended.

Nope it's overkill. in fact it's about 5 times what is needed. A standard battery is good for up to 5 and your L-Rider is only drawing 2.5. The new Young Jung LT's are running at 3. Still a standard battery is more than enough.

I think there has been so much hype over safety lately that it's been used to sell more expensive batteries. A properly vented mod should be no problem even if their is a meltdown which is unlikely if you are not stacking batteries. I have made dozens of mods over the last few years and spent a lot of time on Battery forums. I don't claim to be an expert but I have picked up quite a bit of knowledge.

Even so there is not reason to buy a battery other than what is suggested for your mod. As you said your brothers wouldn't fit.

 

[Rader2146]

Nope it's overkill. in fact it's about 5 times what is needed. A standard battery is good for up to 5 and your L-Rider is only drawing 2.5. The new Young Jung LT's are running at 3. Still a standard battery is more than enough.

I think there has been so much hype over safety lately that it's been used to sell more expensive batteries. A properly vented mod should be no problem even if their is a meltdown which is unlikely if you are not stacking batteries. I have made dozens of mods over the last few years and spent a lot of time on Battery forums. I don't claim to be an expert but I have picked up quite a bit of knowledge.

Even so there is not reason to buy a battery other than what is suggested for your mod. As you said your brothers wouldn't fit.

It's not quite so simple. Is that 2.5 amps input or output? What about efficiency? Input capacitor? Peak current and duty cycle? Voltage dropout under load?

All are factors that need to be accounted for, and reasons that a high drain battery, although not needed, is a good choice to stand up to the abuse of a boost regulator.

 

[springfieldarms]

Many "normal" batteries like the trustfire and ultrafire have great mah ratings but many cannot handle outputs greater than 1.5 amps. They simply don't perform. They are protected and if you Vape a 2ohm coil at 3.7 volts all day you are set. When you start raising volts and lowering resistances you raise the amps above the abilities of these "normal" batts. AW IMR's don't need protection because the chemistry in them prevents them from turning you mod into a pipe bomb. I won't get off topic here about when IMR's amp rating actually comes in useful because the mod in questions doesn't even begin to push them. I say get the IMR's and be set for when you get a new mod that will use them too

 

[Maurits Teuthof]

Nope it's overkill. in fact it's about 5 times what is needed. A standard battery is good for up to 5 and your L-Rider is only drawing 2.5. The new Young Jung LT's are running at 3. Still a standard battery is more than enough.

I think there has been so much hype over safety lately that it's been used to sell more expensive batteries. A properly vented mod should be no problem even if their is a meltdown which is unlikely if you are not stacking batteries. I have made dozens of mods over the last few years and spent a lot of time on Battery forums. I don't claim to be an expert but I have picked up quite a bit of knowledge.

Even so there is not reason to buy a battery other than what is suggested for your mod. As you said your brothers wouldn't fit.

Hi there, I was just reading your post about batteries and the Lambo. I purchased the L Rider Lambo a while ago. It came with the no name red 2250 batteries. I want to buy two more batteries and have read a lot on forums etc. All information seem to be the same: use IMR batteries because of the safe chemistry. I live in the Czech Republic and my vendor advises these batteries: Baterie 18650 Panasonic 3100 mAh - www.ecigareta-shop.cz
I saw that these are unprotected so I asked him about this. He says that the Lambo already has all the needed protection and that this battery is very stable. Is this true?

 

[kiwivap]

I responded to you in the new members forum where you also posted your question.

 

[bubba2u]

non of my protected batteries will work on my yg with a duel coil carto. the unit powers off when when i hit the fire button.

 

[thelump]

I just got my Lambo in the mail on Friday. I bought a kit and it came with 2 Rechargeable High Drain 18650 3.7V 2200mAh Flat Top Batteries. According to the site where I bought it from the Batteries need to measure 65mm (L) x 18mm (D) for them to fit right. You can use longer from what I understand but the cap with not screw all the way down. I'm getting about 13 hours of heavy vaping from the batteries that came in my kit. As for the charger it came with a TrustFire Multifunctional Charger and it seems to work well for me.