Last question. I hope

[Zutankhamun]

Okay. Most of my attys are fine with 100% vg but the kfun lite seems to be having some trouble wicking 100% vg.

Here's the calc for 15ml of new juice I've made.
10.1ml of vg (lol, I mean just 10)
2.5 of nicotine (pg based)
2.5 of flavouring (also pg based)
The nic is 72mg

Excuse my ignorance but does this mean my finished product is 66.6/33.3? Call it 70/30 for arguments sake . Minus the nic and chemicals.
My maths isn't good and I'm not sure. Thanks.

 

[DaveP]

With 10ml of VG and 5ml of thin liquid that's virtually PG in thickness, I'd say you were close to 50/50.

VG is so thick that many atomizers have trouble wicking it. Kayfun is low wattage mouth to lung tank and its juice channels are smaller than the cloud tanks that have to wick a lot of juice to make plumes of vapor.

You might try Rayon in the Kayfun, but the more PG in that tank the better. 50/50 works fine. I vape 70pg/30vg with no issues. Kayfun wicking can be great or finicky depending on whether it's too light, too loose, or just right. You definitely want the wick tails to rest lightly on the deck. You also want as much wick in the coil as possible without the wick being so tight that juice cant enter the coil. When I make a wick it's tight enough that I have to rotate it as I pull it through the coil.

Others will be along to give you suggestions for VG wicking.

 

[dobroeutro]

Sounds about right...

 

[Darth Omerta]

Essentially, yes! You are vaping at just about 66.6/33.3 exactly.

It almost impossible to vape 100% VG because flavor and nic(even if they are VG based) are not VG themselves(silly argument but its happened lol).

It is possible to find VG based concentrates and nicotine if you prefer to go that route but if thats what you want to vape then I recommend an RDA as opposed to an RTA.

 

[Zutankhamun]

VG is so thick that many atomizers have trouble wicking it. Kayfun is low wattage mouth to lung tank and its juice channels are smaller than the cloud tanks that have to wick a lot of juice to make plumes of vapor.

You might try Rayon in the Kayfun, but the more PG in that tank the better. 50/50 works fine. I vape 70pg/30vg with no issues.

Others will be along to give you suggestions for VG wicking.

I've never had issues before. I've got a little rayon but I'm not keen on using it.
Some people are fine with 100% but I'm hoping mine is 70/30 and that is something I can work with.

 

[Zutankhamun]

Essentially, yes! You are vaping at just about 66.6/33.3 exactly.

It almost impossible to vape 100% VG because flavor and nic(even if they are VG based) are not VG themselves(silly argument but its happened lol).

It is possible to find VG based concentrates and nicotine if you prefer to go that route but if thats what you want to vape then I recommend an RDA as opposed to an RTA.

Indeed man. I've gone to the route of vg only and I usually don't have a problem with some prebought kind juice 100% but I think they must use some distilled water to keep up.
Then I've pulled out my gear from the shed and that's pg based nic and pg based Capella drops so hopefully I'm all good.
Maybe I'll rebuild the kfun tonight and give it a go.

Thanks

 

[Dubminer]

Okay. Most of my attys are fine with 100% vg but the kfun lite seems to be having some trouble wicking 100% vg.

Here's the calc for 15ml of new juice I've made.
10.1ml of vg (lol, I mean just 10)
2.5 of nicotine (pg based)
2.5 of flavouring (also pg based)
The nic is 72mg

Excuse my ignorance but does this mean my finished product is 66.6/33.3? Call it 70/30 for arguments sake . Minus the nic and chemicals.
My maths isn't good and I'm not sure. Thanks.

If my math is right then yes it is correct with a total nicotine strength of 12 mg.

 

[DaveP]

Essentially, yes! You are vaping at just about 66.6/33.3 exactly.

It almost impossible to vape 100% VG because flavor and nic(even if they are VG based) are not VG themselves(silly argument but its happened lol).

It is possible to find VG based concentrates and nicotine if you prefer to go that route but if thats what you want to vape then I recommend an RDA as opposed to an RTA.

66/33 is the right answer. I don't know why my math added 2.5 and 2.5 and thought 50/50. I had outside conversation going when I posted 50/50.

 

[mhertz]

As you speculated, add distilled water to suit. On the kayfun, make sure that the juice-channels is free i.e. you need to be able to see light through the channels when looking down the deck. A spaced coil instead of contact coil has better potential to not scorch the wick also. Good luck.

 

[dannyv45]

Not surprised that the kayfun light has wicking issues with high VG. Add 3 - 5% DW to the mix and it will wick fine in it. Also don't pack the wick to tightly it should just sit loosely inside the well.

 

[Rin13]

Not surprised that the kayfun light has wicking issues with high VG. Add 3 - 5% DW to the mix and it will wick fine in it. Also don't pack the wick to tightly it should just sit loosely inside the well.

66% vg is high though? I would have thought it'd be ok...

 

[dannyv45]

66% should be OK but if other factors are also in play such as a tightly compacted wick then you could have wicking issues. So as I mentioned the OP needs to check wick mechanics as well as juice viscosity. It's kind of a fine line between the two especially with kayfuns.

It's good that you do point out that juice viscosity seems to be ok, which re-enforces that other areas also need to be checked (Wick instillation).

 

[SteveS45]

Wicking problems can be correctly easily by poking the coil with a pin as is suggested with the Cleito coils. No scientific study behind my suggestion just a thought off the top of my head because I find many times the simple solution is the way to go.

 

[Maestro]

I vape 70/30 on a v3 mini and have no trouble at all with wicking. I think the airflow has a lot to do with how much juice you pull. Try choking it off a bit.

 

[dannyv45]

Wicking problems can be correctly easily by poking the coil with a pin as is suggested with the Cleito coils. No scientific study behind my suggestion just a thought off the top of my head because I find many times the simple solution is the way to go.

Never though of poking the coil with a pin and thinking about it that should work. A pin also works good to fluff up a tightly packed wick.

 

[SteveS45]

I vape only High or Max VG and never have wicking problems with any of my Atomizers.

 

[Alien Traveler]

I vape only High or Max VG and never have wicking problems with any of my Atomizers.

Are you talking about Kayfuns?

 

[jambi]

Wicking for thicker juice in a Kayfun Lite, Rayon (preferred) or cotton... slide your wick through the coil. Wet it with juice. Trim it so it's hugging the side wall and just barely touching the deck (thin a bit if necessary). Screw on the "chimney base". Use a tiny flat head screwdriver to again push the wicks against the side wall, away from the juice inlets. Now it should be able to run high VG (up to 80/20) without issues, though I've never tried running 100% VG through my 1 gen Kayfuns. With their minuscule juice inlets, that might be asking too much regardless of how it's wicked.

 

[dannyv45]

I use rayon and roll it thin and slide it through the coil making sure it fits loosely in the coil. Then pull the wick up over the coil and screw on the chimney base. I then cut the wick to 1/4" above the chimney base then use a thin jeweler screw driver to slide it down the chimney wall to just lightly touch the base. Then wet the wick with juice and screw on the cap.