Lavatube....good bad or ugly

[tj99959]

The irony of it (from my point of view) is this is still about my most favorite mod.

It cast all of $2.20 to make, and is perfectly capable of providing the vape that I desire.
The battery I choose to use controls the voltage and amp limit, and the resistance I choose to use controls the wattage.
So how much of that "stuff" is necessary ......... really?

 

[mostapha]

Meanwhile, I'm sitting here happily vaping my VTube and Vivi Nova tank with the 2.8ohm head, and still wondering why I don't feel limited by the 2.5amp limit on the VTube.

Because you're using a 2.8Ω head. The most you could ever be drawing is < 2.2A. So you get the full range of adjustment. If you switched to a 2.4Ω head, you could get a little more power at the top end……if you care.

The only time the amp limit really comes into play is with dual couils, though if you're less than 2.4Ω, you can't get all the way up to 6V without hitting it.

The only reason I brought up the Darwin is because it–one of the most advanced* mods on the planet–still can't rock dual coils as well as it can rock single coils……since we're talking about a mod that costs about 1/4 of the price, the fact that the LT (or twist or whatever) can't work well with dual coils is not a reason to avoid the LavaTube or anything else cheap.

(*): Advanced does not necessarily imply best.

The battery I choose to use controls the voltage and amp limit, and the resistance I choose to use controls the wattage.
So how much of that "stuff" is necessary ......... really?

None of it…once you know how you like to vape. I bought my twist because I didn't know if I'd be happy at 3.7. As it turns out, I think I want to be a little above it but not up to 5 (I don't think), so I'll stick with VV for a while.

 

[Pappy]

It has been a very good introduction to the world of VV, although, my feeling is that the Twist has a slight advantage in this area due to my preference for a lighter device.

That's why I intend to buy a Twist also. I love my VTube, but there are times I'd prefer something closer to the size of my KGO but with variable voltage. I think I'm now officially spoiled to the benefits of VV.

 

[munchichee]

This new Lavatube 2.1 Tornado has 4 amps limit. So dual coil will work fine. And that is good looking mod if you ask me. There is few flaw. Like chrome on button will go off pretty soon. And some problems whit 510/ego connector. And whit that mini model 18350 accu working time isnt great. But 18650 model is pretty long... But its all about user what is important.

The only place I can find the Lavatube 2.1 tornado are Finnish websites. That seems strange it would be available there first.

 

[mostapha]

Thanks to complaints about the low amp limit and people apparently either not being able to do math or wanting to use dual coils, vendors aren't selling out and re-ordering. It's possible suppliers aren't selling out and reordering from the factories either. At least, that would be my guess.

If anyone actually wants one, it's a version 1.0 (with the 2.5A limit)……but vaperfexion has a "sale" on a kit (mini LT, charger, 2x 18350s, carrying case, and a cartomator tank) for like $65. If I'd seen that when I was ordering my twist, it probably would have won. I'm honestly debating it instead of my second twist……the only thing really holding me back is the button placement and the fact that it wouldn't come close to sating my desire to shove a kick in a silver bullet or an Empire. And the button placement, but……meh. And the timing……that's $65 I could spend on something else really cool.

 

[vappour]

I bought the twist and found my happy medium is somewhere betwee 4 and 4.2 volts.

 

[ShogaNinja]

Go with an Ego Twist. The lavatube has a safety feature which secretly brings down your voltages without telling you which prohibits you from truly rocking out say a dual or triple coil carto. The provari has the same feature for the record, also secret. Ego Twist is win. Also, you will not that most VV people usually vape at an area just above 4v anyway and that's what the Ego Twist excels at.

 

[wv2win]

ROFLMAO
That "chart" is of stacked Evolv DNA-12 chips which is a WATT controlled device.
Now if you were up with what is going on in the vaping world, you would have known that!

Oh and here is a pic of the mod that produced those stats.


Unfortunately that is only an opinion, which many in the vaping community disagree with.

You will find that my comprehension level is quite high,and I didn't miss the point at all.
Fact is I like the Darwin, it was a great mod. I just don't happen to belong to any specific APV fan boy club. The reality is that wattage controlled APV's only fill a "niche" in the vaping community. They are no more for everyone than voltage controlled APV's are. Being as I have, and use both, I can assure you that the vape from both tastes the same.
You see, you tend to make comments like the quote above as if they are a fact instead of just your opinion. You are also quick to point out that anyone that disagrees with your facts is somehow sub-human.

Now here's a FACT that maybe you can comprehend.
Ohms is written in a circle, and no one factor is more important than another.
Any two of it's four components can be set as a "constant" to control the others.

Once again, your "reading" comprehension is the issue. You consistently ignore the "total" advantages of better APV models that was provided in the post and only comment on one part of the overall picture, the power generation part of the PV performance. Second, every electrical engineer that I have talked with has agreed that regulating "watts" is preferred over regulating "volts". This isn't an opinion from their perspective. You stating otherwise because you know how to solder is misleading at best.

Third, we all know that you like to post pictures of your little homemade box mods and ego clones all over ECF and present yourself as the all-knowing vaping expert because you know how to solder. But being self-absored with your little backyard projects does not qualify you to consistently attack others who understand the advantages of models like the Provari, Opus and Darwin that provide many more features in one device than your home-made little clone PV's. Attacking advance vaping model just because you are not able to make one makes little sense. Your constant advice to others that they need to have many different types of PV's because that is what you prefer is getting old.

Fourth and most significantly, prior to you going into attack mode, we were having a discussion on the pros and cons of the lavatube. The Darwin and Provari were not being pushed or recommended by anyone in this thread. Then, as you consistently do, you have to start making this a thread about other models and going on the attack. Others have noticed that you have some "hang-up" about APV's. Whatever it is, your redirecting this thread through your misrepresentation of my comments is not helpful.

 

[mostapha]

Go with an Ego Twist. The lavatube has a safety feature which secretly brings down your voltages without telling you which prohibits you from truly rocking out say a dual or triple coil carto. The provari has the same feature for the record, also secret. Ego Twist is win. Also, you will not that most VV people usually vape at an area just above 4v anyway and that's what the Ego Twist excels at.

The twist has the same limitations and still doesn't love dual coils. I'm not sure any good PV does.

My conclusion: don't buy dual coils.

 

[uxojoe]

I've got 2 Lavatubes, one from Apolloecigs, and the other from Volcanoecigs. I like the one from Volcano a tiny bit better, draw is a little easier, but it came with nothing. The Apollo version cost me less and came with a battery, a charger, a nice case, a 510 atty and a drip tip. I'm pretty sure I used a discount code at checkout.

For the most part I can't tell the difference between the Apollo and the Volcano Lavatubes. The vape with a 3 ohm single coil carto/tank is consistant between the two. I'm sure other branded Lavatubes work fine as well. I put somewhere between 10 and 15 mils of juice through one of them every day.

Is the lavatube perfect? Naw, but it works just fine for me.

 

[tj99959]

For the most part I can't tell the difference between the Apollo and the Volcano Lavatubes

That's because they are both V1's made by L-Rider. The only thing different is the paint job.

The LT meets the needs for a lot of people. Is it for everyone ... of course not, but neither is anything else.

 

[wv2win]

The twist has the same limitations and still doesn't love dual coils. I'm not sure any good PV does.

My conclusion: don't buy dual coils.

The new version of the Provari, the Darwin and the VV Gripper will all handle 1.5 ohm dual coil cartomizers. And the Gripper costs less than the lavatube. The warmth of the vapor is quite nice.

 

[Pappy]

Go with an Ego Twist. The lavatube has a safety feature which secretly brings down your voltages without telling you which prohibits you from truly rocking out say a dual or triple coil carto. The provari has the same feature for the record, also secret. Ego Twist is win. Also, you will not that most VV people usually vape at an area just above 4v anyway and that's what the Ego Twist excels at.

I suppose there's something to be said for reading the first post in a thread and none of the responses.

First, the Twist has the same limitation that the lavatube does. So, how is it that the Twist will allow one to be "truly rocking out" a dual coil carto?

Secondly, since nobody else has been able to do it, perhaps you could explain to me why I should WANT to use a dual coil carto. My Vivi Nova with the 2.4ohm or 2.8ohm head is producing a fantastic vape on my stainless steel VTube. Please explain how my vaping pleasure is being diminished by not using dual coil cartos.

 

[Pappy]

The new version of the Provari, the Darwin and the VV Gripper will all handle 1.5 ohm dual coil cartomizers. And the Gripper costs less than the lavatube. The warmth of the vapor is quite nice.

Thanks for mentioning the VV Gripper. I had not seen that one yet. Is it new? Do you have any idea of the construction quality of it? $60 isn't bad at all, especially if it's well built. Not sure how pocketable it would be, but I like the idea of using an 18650 battery in a unit that is shorter than my KGO.

 

[tj99959]

Please explain how my vaping pleasure is being diminished by not using dual coil cartos.

Ah, because someone said so.

The reality is that no one will know unless they try them. Some will love them, others won't.

 

[wv2win]

...........Secondly, since nobody else has been able to do it, perhaps you could explain to me why I should WANT to use a dual coil carto. My Vivi Nova with the 2.4ohm or 2.8ohm head is producing a fantastic vape on my stainless steel VTube. Please explain how my vaping pleasure is being diminished by not using dual coil cartos.

Thanks for mentioning the VV Gripper. I had not seen that one yet. Is it new? Do you have any idea of the construction quality of it? $60 isn't bad at all, especially if it's well built. Not sure how pocketable it would be, but I like the idea of using an 18650 battery in a unit that is shorter than my KGO.

I've vaped about every atomizer and cartomizer made and at every voltage level between 3.7 and 6.0 volts. 1.5 ohm dual coil cartomizers don't reach their potential until you get at and above 4.5 volts. I have found that 4.5 to 4.7 volts is an excellent power level for 1.5 DCC's but have read that some find they shine even more at 5.0 - 5.4 volts. That's my experience and I've read the same analysis from many long time vapers. They produce a really full and warm vapor. But I also found that a nice 801 single coil, 2.8 ohm atty or carto at 5 volts produces a nice warm vape also. I wouldn't say that the dual coils are better, but they do tend to be more consistent in producing warm vapor at those levels than the single coil atty/cartos. If you like cold vapor, like some who posted frequently in this section and think everyone should like cold vapor, then a dual coil would be a waste for you. I hope that helps explain why many of us like dual coils.

I don't have the Gripper, so I don't know about the size. I read a couple of positive reveiws about it and know that Madvapes usually provides good products. Since it costs less than the LT and doesn't have the the LT's limitations, it looks like a worthy competitor.

 

[DantesInferno]

Ya ego twist. Save some money then get a provari down the road. You won't regret either.