Leaky atomizer. Please help

[DonovanDarko]

I am a newbie with vapor cigs. I really need to quit smoking, so I wanted to try the e cigs. I read reviews and forums and research the internet for my first brand. V2 Cigs.. My first impression.... not good. Although I'm not here to put a company down, they do have great service, my atomizer/cartridge continuously leaks juice into my mouth! Every time, not just once in a while. So I though I was taking to big of puffs and started taking very small ones. Still nasty juice in my mouth. Can someone PLEASE tell me what brand of e-cig will not do this? If this is what e-cigs are all about, I have little faith that I will ever quit the real smokes.
By the way, I've already tried what V2 has suggested, like storing them lying down and keeping them in the refrigerator... still mucho grossness burning my lips and numbing my tongue.

Any better brands out there?

 

[hairball]

I suggest getting an eGo or riva kit from liberty-flights.com or a kr808d-1 from vapor4life.com. I would personally choose the riva 510 over the 901.

The ego/riva are the size of a sharpie marker and have better battery life between charges. You can use cartomizers with the batteries. I suggest getting Boge brand which liberty-flights also sells. If they are out, you can obtain them from most vendors.

The kr808d-1 is a nice unit also but the battery life doesn't come close to the ego/riva. You can purchase prefilled or blank carto's for this unit. V4L has the WOW and coolcart cartomizers. WOW burn hotter so it would be your preference on which ones you'd want. However, a bunch of vendors sell the blank carto's for it also. V4L is currently running a sale and if you sign up in their forum (in the stickies at the top), you get the better "family" sales.

Not all units are created equal or preform the same. I've heard about the same problem from another member when using the V2. I hope it works out for you and please don't give up. Once you find the right hardware, juice is the next adventure and hopefully you'll be vaping it and not eating it.

 

[dormouse]

V2 ecigs do not have atomizers

Do you mean the cartomizers? I am surprised that prefilled cartos are leaking - they are usually barely filled.

What I do with a leaky prefilled carto - I pop out the soft cap by using an unbent paperclip in the mouth airhole, being careful not to catch any stuffing or wire. I hold the open end down into a tissue and puff into the threaded end. Keeping the open end down, I then press a bit of softly bunched tissue against the stuffing in the open end just lightly to get any loose juice. If there is a defined center air channel, I want to see light through that.

If your cartos do not have soft easy-to-remove caps on the end then I would not buy those cartos again. If your cartos do not have soft caps, you can try this if one is leaking but I don't like to suggest this because you undoubtedly have auto batteries which are easily damaged by juice leaks. Try blowing into the mouth end with the threaded end against a tissue to get out extra juice. and clean it up well then make absolutely sure it will not leak at the threaded end before putting it back on the battery. And next time maybe buy Vapor4Life or Bloogplanet cartos instead.

 

[DonovanDarko]

Hairball,
Thank you so much for your quick responce. I went to the live chatroom here, and came out of there with a severe failing hope of succeeding against this war to quit smoking..
I think you might have gave me a small sence of that hope back. I will definately look more into those models that you have suggested.. I thank you again.

D
xXx

 

[bobsyeruncle]

I can't tell you why the V2 cig leaks in your mouth. They are a KR808D-1 and that system isn't known to have leaks. This may sound kind of stupid, but you want to make sure you aren't drawing too hard when you vape. You want to take a light draw for 3 or more seconds. Inhale for as long as you want to get a good vapour; just don't inhale too hard.

You can also look at buying prefilled-cartomizers for your system from different sites. Since I don't buy prefilled, I'll just suggest you try SmokelessImage to start off with. If you want to try filling your own, you can buy blanks from SmokelessImage and juice from TastyVapor.us and GourmetVapor.com. There are lots of other good sites out there. I'm sure someone else will chime in.

If you really want to go with a different system, the aforementioned Ego is a good system. You might also consider Riva or E-Power. They're all similar. Try Liberty-Flights for hardware. Go elsewhere for juice. Boge LR cartomizers work well with those systems; you have to fill them on your own.

Does this help?

 

[DonovanDarko]

Dormouse, yes, cartos is what I meant, and yes it does have a rubber end cap. I had removed it once to stick a paper clip through to see if that would semi clean it out. I have'nt blown through it yet, because I feel that it would only cause more moisture build in the carto.

I have one of each. An auto battery and a manual. I found that the manual does a little bit better with that, because I don't have to inhale to activate.

Thank you for your suggestions too.. I hope that i can find something, my mother said she would quit to if I found something worth while. So needless to say I'm on a serious mission.

 

[bobsyeruncle]

Dumb question. Would you be okay with filling cartridges or cartomizers with your own juice? Or is it just getting too complicated for you? Just to reiterate part of my last post, you might still have success buying your cartomizers from a different vendor.

 

[evilfrog]

Good edit Donovan Annoying that V2 calls their cartomizers cartridges. Leads to confusion!
I would also suggest trying a different cartomizer, be it a Boge, smokeless image pre-filled, or whatever else you'd like to try. Maybe stay away from LR cartos as they seem more likely to spit liquid onto your tongue?
You could also try adding a drip tip to your carto.

 

[DonovanDarko]

Yes, Bob. Helps. Looks like I now have more options than what I'd thought previously. Rabbit hole goes deeper than anticipated.. Never knew about filling your own until this post. I'll go over these posts again tomorrow when I have more time, for now thank you. You guys been good help.

 

[DonovanDarko]

Good edit Donovan Annoying that V2 calls their cartomizers cartridges. Leads to confusion!
I would also suggest trying a different cartomizer, be it a Boge, smokeless image pre-filled, or whatever else you'd like to try. Maybe stay away from LR cartos as they seem more likely to spit liquid onto your tongue?
You could also try adding a drip tip to your carto.

You said "Maybe stay away from LR cartos"
So what does LR mean?

 

[DonovanDarko]

Dumb question. Would you be okay with filling cartridges or cartomizers with your own juice? Or is it just getting too complicated for you? Just to reiterate part of my last post, you might still have success buying your cartomizers from a different vendor.

HAHA! you read me like a book. Is my ignorance so obvious!?? lol.. really whatever works.. no leakys.

 

[evilfrog]

Cartomizers come in a variety of resistances. The lower the number(of Ohms) the hotter the cartomizer burns. Low resistance = LR. Many people prefer LR cartos for their warmth and vapor production, others find that regular cartos are fine. LR cartos will use up batteries faster as well.

I know, it's confusing! It *does* get better and easier with time

 

[bobsyeruncle]

So, if you consider starting over again with a new e-cigarette system like an Ego or Riva 510 from Liberty-Flights, you might also consider LR cartomizers to go with your system. Boge LR cartos will work really well. You just have to fill them with your own juice.

Be patient filling cartomizers. You should be able to fit about 25 drops in there, but if you don't give the juice time to soak in, you're going to get a mouthful of juice.

 

[DonovanDarko]

I can't tell you why the V2 cig leaks in your mouth. They are a KR808D-1 and that system isn't known to have leaks. This may sound kind of stupid, but you want to make sure you aren't drawing too hard when you vape. You want to take a light draw for 3 or more seconds. Inhale for as long as you want to get a good vapour; just don't inhale too hard.

You can also look at buying prefilled-cartomizers for your system from different sites. Since I don't buy prefilled, I'll just suggest you try SmokelessImage to start off with. If you want to try filling your own, you can buy blanks from SmokelessImage and juice from TastyVapor.us and GourmetVapor.com. There are lots of other good sites out there. I'm sure someone else will chime in.

If you really want to go with a different system, the aforementioned Ego is a good system. You might also consider Riva or E-Power. They're all similar. Try Liberty-Flights for hardware. Go elsewhere for juice. Boge LR cartomizers work well with those systems; you have to fill them on your own.

Does this help?

Bob,

On another note, does the cartridge last longer by refilling your own? I smoked marlboro light 100's (1 pack in 24 hours). I bought the "light" cartos from them thinking that is what I needed. I find myself consistently vaping throughout the day to relieve my cravings. One cartridge will only last me 4-5 hours. Nowhere near the 24 hours I would get with a real pack of cigarettes. Would filling my own be better with that?

 

[bobsyeruncle]

If your supplier is going light on the juice in your cartridge, then yes, filling your own might last a little longer. Since you probably aren't stopping your vape like you might when you get down to the end of a cigarette, I suspect you might still go through cartomizers faster than you would with a pack of cigarettes.

You can keep refilling the same cartridge until it starts to taste funny.

If you find yourself vaping more than you need out of habit vs. getting the nicotine you crave, you might consider filling a few cartomizers with 0mg juice. Some sites will sell you "doublers" with 0mg that are cheaper than the nicotine juice. A doubler is used to mix down a higher strength nicotine juice like 36mg down to whatever strength you require. It's a cheaper system than just buying regular strength juice. And vaping the doubler alone may help when you've satisfied the nicotine craving, but still feel the need to puff. You won't get a throat hit from 0mg, however.

 

[Lisa Dill Thomley]

I always tell new vapers to begin with a high nicotine juice. Just because you smoke light ciggarettes does NOT mean you are addicted to less nicotine! Your body is most likely addicted to the same amount of nicotine as someone who smokes Marlboro reds Xtra strength. I personally do not like carts but that's just me. I've been vaping 2 years Monday and got completely off analogs about 3 months after I started vaping. You have to find the right "fit" e-cigg. I have gotten 510-T kits ($50. at cignot) for some friends and family members and every person has quit smoking using this system. It feels and looks like a ciggarette and has "tanks" that are super simple to refill. It's become my own main ecigg! It's a very confusing world out here in ecigg land...I tried MANY pv's before I found my perfect fit. I also thought I could NEVER give up stinky analogs...now you couldn't MAKE me smoke one! Good luck in your journey!

 

[DonovanDarko]

Lisa,
It is the nicotine content, thats EXACTLY what I was thinking! Thank you for verifying that for me.. OK, so I live in New Mexico.. what that means is, I'm broke as fudge. I don't have a lot of money to spend on different kits. You nice people have suggested lots of interesting new devices and techniques, I otherwise would never of known about. I am definitely upping the nicotine strength.

I need convenience, low maintenance and fairly lower price to continue with it. I had been previously spending about 150 dollars monthly on real ciggs.

Thank you all,

 

[DonovanDarko]

I always tell new vapers to begin with a high nicotine juice. Just because you smoke light ciggarettes does NOT mean you are addicted to less nicotine! Your body is most likely addicted to the same amount of nicotine as someone who smokes Marlboro reds Xtra strength. I personally do not like carts but that's just me. I've been vaping 2 years Monday and got completely off analogs about 3 months after I started vaping. You have to find the right "fit" e-cigg. I have gotten 510-T kits ($50. at cignot) for some friends and family members and every person has quit smoking using this system. It feels and looks like a ciggarette and has "tanks" that are super simple to refill. It's become my own main ecigg! It's a very confusing world out here in ecigg land...I tried MANY pv's before I found my perfect fit. I also thought I could NEVER give up stinky analogs...now you couldn't MAKE me smoke one! Good luck in your journey!

Lisa,
Is the 510-T good at not spewing juice into your mouth?

 

[classwife]

Donovan...I am sorry you had difficulty getting help in chat...
Here is a tutorial that might be of some help to you...
The ECF Library


Also maybe of help...
Ecigarette Technical Issues

And as a little side...I have found that the only time I get the spitties is if I have gotten an atty or a carto too hot by chain vaping. (liquid in the carto tube aside...)

Don't get frustrated...lots of people here to help !

 

[bobsyeruncle]

Lisa,
Is the 510-T good at not spewing juice into your mouth?

If you're actually considering getting a new system, I'd really suggest an Ego or Riva 510 from Liberty-Flights over a Joye 510. Unless you really need it to look like a cig. And I'm suggesting Liberty-Flights, because you should be able to get a good price for the system. But, it doesn't hurt to shop around.