Lemon flavor taste like lemon rind??

[trentenmarschel]

So I am going to have to get some new DIY flavor recipes. I love lemons, figured my first DIY juice would be lemon flavor. Got everything mixed and tried it out in my old kayfun 3.1 clone (Which had a little surface rust around the fill valve). My first hit on it I could defiantly taste lemon rind and not the actual sour punch I was expecting from a lemon flavor. Anyone recommend an actual good lemon flavor or some good recipe they use to make things like lemonade juice etc.

Also I think it might taste better if I can find some way to sweeten it up a bit.

 

[IDJoel]

Lemon Swirl (originally posted by Heabob {from Paddymx's file})
Lemon (water soluble)-TFA 10%
Vanilla Swirl-TFA 3%
Marshmallow-TFA 1%
Sour-TFA 0.50%

Mix in your choice of VG/PG/nic. Shake and vape.

I have tweaked this to my personal taste; so it has changed a bit from the original. The original called for 5% VS, and no sour. I found this a little too ice cream-like so I reduced the VS. I added the Sour to help the lemon "pop." It doesn't really add a sour note at this level (not what I was looking for) but you can increase it if that is your desire.

As I have it posted; it has a nice bright lemon flavor with just a hint of creaminess.

Besides the Lemon (water sol.)-TFA, I have started experimenting with Lemon-Inewara, and Lemon Sicily-Flavor Arts. Both with very pleasing initial results; but only in single flavor mixes. So I have no recipes using them to offer at this time. But they might be worthy of your attention.

Regarding lemonade; you may want to check out Flavor West's Lemonade. I know it has more than a few users that swear it's the bomb. I know @hittman is one of it's proponents; maybe he'll chime in with his thoughts.

 

[trentenmarschel]

Lemon Swirl (originally posted by Heabob {from Paddymx's file})
Lemon (water soluble)-TFA 10%
Vanilla Swirl-TFA 3%
Marshmallow-TFA 1%
Sour-TFA 0.50%

Mix in your choice of VG/PG/nic. Shake and vape.

I have tweaked this to my personal taste; so it has changed a bit from the original. The original called for 5% VS, and no sour. I found this a little too ice cream-like so I reduced the VS. I added the Sour to help the lemon "pop." It doesn't really add a sour note at this level (not what I was looking for) but you can increase it if that is your desire.

As I have it posted; it has a nice bright lemon flavor with just a hint of creaminess.

Besides the Lemon (water sol.)-TFA, I have started experimenting with Lemon-Inewara, and Lemon Sicily-Flavor Arts. Both with very pleasing initial results; but only in single flavor mixes. So I have no recipes using them to offer at this time. But they might be worthy of your attention.

Regarding lemonade; you may want to check out Flavor West's Lemonade. I know it has more than a few users that swear it's the bomb. I know @hittman is one of it's proponents; maybe he'll chime in with his thoughts.

Thanks I'll be sure to check out the Flavor West site. I am thinking about buying some concentrated sweetener to use and mix with vg. For now all I had was some vanilla extract so I added a couple drops to the lemon E-juice I made in hopes of making it sweeter.

 

[Bonskibon]

Another recipe to try. Only flavor I don't have is sour.

 

[IDJoel]

Another recipe to try. Only flavor I don't have is sour.

Sour isn't mandatory. Try it without; I like it (I just like it MORE with the sour). The Sour just adds a little brightness to the lemon profile. You can also try subbing other lemons (like the IW and FA I mentioned above... though I'm kinda liking those more in the 4% range instead of the 10% TFA seems to require).

 

[trentenmarschel]

Actually It might not hurt to add a couple drops of lemon juice. Worst case is it taste like junk and I have to start again. But that's okay with me. I am still VERY new at mixing DIY juice. This is actually my first ever try at it.

 

[IDJoel]

Actually It might not hurt to add a couple drops of lemon juice. Worst case is it taste like junk and I have to start again. But that's okay with me. I am still VERY new at mixing DIY juice. This is actually my first ever try at it.

You can try. I have seen it suggested in several recipes over the last couple of years. I tried it with the above recipe without ANY success. YMMV

 

[trentenmarschel]

I have a game plan for later. I don't have a dripper mod that I can use to easily test out DIY flavors. I thought of this last night. I plan to just take the Hcigar Kayfun 3.1 clone apart. I will just have the deck and the metal cylinder over the deck, and drip the juice in there and put the top chimney piece on and just use it like a dripper mod.

Any thoughts on if this might work or if anyone here has tried it? Figured it may be worth a shot instead of trying to fill a tank a little and dump it if it doesn't work well.

 

[supertrunker]

If it worked really well then you'd imagine that everyone would be dumping the glass from their tanks and using them as drippers, yet that's not what we see.

My concern would be that you are using an airflow that would not be replicated in either a dripper or a tank and so when you found something you liked, you'd struggle to replicate it.

Perhaps a cheap clone dripper is the way to go?

T

 

[trentenmarschel]

If it worked really well then you'd imagine that everyone would be dumping the glass from their tanks and using them as drippers, yet that's not what we see.

My concern would be that you are using an airflow that would not be replicated in either a dripper or a tank and so when you found something you liked, you'd struggle to replicate it.

Perhaps a cheap clone dripper is the way to go?

T

Thanks I figured I would get some input on it first. I will probably get a cheap dripper sometime soon, but I have to wait for a new bank card at the moment and need to figure out some way to quickly test flavors before partly filling a tank. Any suggestions?

Stuff I have:

Hcigar Kayfun 3.1 clone.
SMOKTech RSST Mesh wick.
Augvape Merlin RTA.

 

[supertrunker]

How are you planning on making sure that one flavour does not run into another? Will you be replacing the wick each time you try a new flavour?

My advice: beg, borrow or steal an RDA from someplace and grab yourself some cotton. They might be hard to find now, but it used to be the case that people would use cartos to test flavours and the bridgeless ones were preferred. The principle is the same with a dripper.

There's a mean side of me that says to give all the failures to your vaping friends!

T

 

[trentenmarschel]

How are you planning on making sure that one flavour does not run into another? Will you be replacing the wick each time you try a new flavour?

My advice: beg, borrow or steal an RDA from someplace and grab yourself some cotton. They might be hard to find now, but it used to be the case that people would use cartos to test flavours and the bridgeless ones were preferred. The principle is the same with a dripper.

There's a mean side of me that says to give all the failures to your vaping friends!

T

Lol I used to have some cartos laying around, but I am pretty sure I gutted those for fun thinking I would never need them. If I did use one of my other tanks. I would probably just use a piece of silica and throw a couple wraps on it and toss it if flavor doesn't taste right. I have like 25 feet of 3mm silica! I think I still have a vivi nova around here somewhere too.

 

[IDJoel]

I have a game plan for later. I don't have a dripper mod that I can use to easily test out DIY flavors. I thought of this last night. I plan to just take the Hcigar Kayfun 3.1 clone apart. I will just have the deck and the metal cylinder over the deck, and drip the juice in there and put the top chimney piece on and just use it like a dripper mod.

Any thoughts on if this might work or if anyone here has tried it? Figured it may be worth a shot instead of trying to fill a tank a little and dump it if it doesn't work well.

I don't have a kayfun so I can't speak to that design. But I have done it with a griffin and it works fine.
The only caution I would offer is the chimney gets HOT! Watch your lips.

With the griffin I can put the top plate on the chimney, w/o the glass, and use the drip tip to avoid lip burn. It looks like heck, and unthreading the chamber to re-drip is not nearly as convenient as just pulling the top cap off a RDA, but it does work in a pinch.

 

[trentenmarschel]

I don't have a kayfun so I can't speak to that design. But I have done it with a griffin and it works fine.
The only caution I would offer is the chimney gets HOT! Watch your lips.

With the griffin I can put the top plate on the chimney, w/o the glass, and use the drip tip to avoid lip burn. It looks like heck, and unthreading the chamber to re-drip is not nearly as convenient as just pulling the top cap off a RDA, but it does work in a pinch.

Cool thanks. I'll give that a shot.