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retic1959

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    Retic--Just got it.. Perfect little ladies mod! The kayfun sits flush, and in nano mode it's pocket size... Going to take an emery board to it tho, you were right about that. It seems to wobble a bit standing up, but I haven't messed with it much yet...
    Yeah that switch is a little cheese grater , hopefully yours is smooth but it's an easy fix if it isn't , there's a few videos on youtube about it . I think it might be the shortest mech you can get in 350 mode .
     

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    Pulled the trigger earlier today and got on the waiting list for FT's ZNA 30. FT says it will ship in 10 days. Will see how that pans out...

    Cool! Congrats, Chak. Can't wait to hear how you like it. Mine rarely leaves my hand. I just love how it fits and how it works.

    I wanted to mention that I saw a Big Kayfun clone at the B&M. Whoa! That's a serious tank. :)

    And a clarification: the .7 ohm dual coil Magma is best for me at 18 - 20 W. The 1.3 ohm single is amazing at 15W.
     

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    Just heard something interesting on the Provari P3...some video review from ProVape's Australian dealer (I gathered). He said the reason ProVape maxed the P3 at 20w was because they felt the FDA was going to, in essence, impose maximum power capacities on PVs. ProVape feels they can stay under the FDA maximum at 20w. Not sure how true any of this is but it seems to be a plausible reason to me. And doesn't this beg additional questions for the DNA and other devices that provide 30, 40, 50 watts AND mechs. Hmmm... Didn't think about the FDA regulating power capacities before. Of course, in the name of "safety".

    One other thing I got out of the video review is this guy REALLY liked that boost option... the extra power boost at the beginning of the fire cycle to get your coil up to temperature quickly. There are 5 boost settings. He had his at level 2 of 5. He said 5 was just too much so he back it off to level 2. So it seems to be doing what it is intended to do. That boost feature could be close to a game changer for me. BTW, PB mentioned there were other mods that incorporated a similar feature. I don't believe he indicated which ones, however.
     
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    Just heard something interesting on the Provari P3...some video review from ProVape's Australian dealer (I gathered). He said the reason ProVape maxed the P3 at 20w was because they felt the FDA was going to, in essence, impose maximum power capacities on PVs. ProVape feels they can stay under the FDA maximum at 20w. Not sure how true any of this is but it seems to be a plausible reason to me. And doesn't this beg additional questions for the DNA and other devices that provide 30, 40, 50 watts AND mechs. Hmmm... Didn't think about the FDA regulating power capacities before. Of course, in the name of "safety".

    One other thing I got out of the video review is this guy REALLY liked that boost option... the extra power boost at the beginning of the fire cycle to get your coil up to temperature quickly. There are 5 boost settings. He had his at level 2 of 5. He said 5 was just too much so he back it off to level 2. So it seems to be doing what it is intended to do. That boost feature could be close to a game changer for me. BTW, PB mentioned there were other mods that incorporated a similar feature. I don't believe he indicated which ones, however.

    Wow. I don't know how close ProVape is to the gov't, but they do claim to work within milspecs (which deserves mucho respect). Hmm, FDA getting in on the hardware side? What's next, some gov't agency saying we exhale poison or something?

    I heard of the P3 boost option, but hadn't heard of levels of boost. That does seem to make for more versatility than I've seen with other APVs. But my recent youtube experience was some off the wall binge rather than anything vape related. I love/hate youtube!






    And yes, I'm lung-hitting my Odin/Sumpin' now...
     

    retic1959

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    Just heard something interesting on the Provari P3...some video review from ProVape's Australian dealer (I gathered). He said the reason ProVape maxed the P3 at 20w was because they felt the FDA was going to, in essence, impose maximum power capacities on PVs. ProVape feels they can stay under the FDA maximum at 20w. Not sure how true any of this is but it seems to be a plausible reason to me. And doesn't this beg additional questions for the DNA and other devices that provide 30, 40, 50 watts AND mechs. Hmmm... Didn't think about the FDA regulating power capacities before. Of course, in the name of "safety". One other thing I got out of the video review is this guy REALLY liked that boost option... the extra power boost at the beginning of the fire cycle to get your coil up to temperature quickly. There are 5 boost settings. He had his at level 2 of 5. He said 5 was just too much so he back it off to level 2. So it seems to be doing what it is intended to do. That boost feature could be close to a game changer for me. BTW, PB mentioned there were other mods that incorporated a similar feature. I don't believe he indicated which ones, however.
    Should make for one hell of a lawsuit if the FDA tries to regulate devices , when and how did they gain that authority ?
     

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    Cool! Congrats, Chak. Can't wait to hear how you like it. Mine rarely leaves my hand. I just love how it fits and how it works.

    I wanted to mention that I saw a Big Kayfun clone at the B&M. Whoa! That's a serious tank. :)

    And a clarification: the .7 ohm dual coil Magma is best for me at 18 - 20 W. The 1.3 ohm single is amazing at 15W.

    Yeah, I can't wait either! :D It's due to ship on the 10th, did I mention that? So, another week + or - on top of that. :glare:

    The Big Buddha, I call it Big Bud, is a pretty awesome tank :thumb: looks great and working fine on the Panzer! :thumbs: I'm just now getting to the bottom of the 2nd tankful with 1.3 ohm, dual setup. Also, 10ml is an awful lot of juice - Georgia Peach has started to taste flat down near the end of the tank :yawn: I had to swap battery at 3.7 v for a fresh 4.19v.

    Next build, I'll shoot for .7 or .8 ohm. The lowest I've ever gone so far is 1.1 ohm on the PanMag. I want to experiment with some ribbon wire I have too - .5mm 1mm and .8mm 1mm. That would be similar to 30g and 28g respectively, but more surface area heating up. The problem working with ribbon is locking the ribbon under the post screws - hard to find washers that small.

    I saw that David had made some neat fasteners when he uses ribbon. Alas, my kingdom for a dremel tool! :facepalm:
     

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    OKay, that was weird. Both my link and your link lead me to one post earlier than the one I intended. Not sure how you ended up so far away from my link, but . . .

    Yup, weird alright. With Safari, your's takes me to the last page of the thread, while mine goes right to the post on her first pic.(I copied the link to the post not the page) If you look at the link code, they're different at the end - at least in my browser. :confused:
     

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    Just heard something interesting on the Provari P3...some video review from ProVape's Australian dealer (I gathered). He said the reason ProVape maxed the P3 at 20w was because they felt the FDA was going to, in essence, impose maximum power capacities on PVs. ProVape feels they can stay under the FDA maximum at 20w. Not sure how true any of this is but it seems to be a plausible reason to me. And doesn't this beg additional questions for the DNA and other devices that provide 30, 40, 50 watts AND mechs. Hmmm... Didn't think about the FDA regulating power capacities before. Of course, in the name of "safety".

    One other thing I got out of the video review is this guy REALLY liked that boost option... the extra power boost at the beginning of the fire cycle to get your coil up to temperature quickly. There are 5 boost settings. He had his at level 2 of 5. He said 5 was just too much so he back it off to level 2. So it seems to be doing what it is intended to do. That boost feature could be close to a game changer for me. BTW, PB mentioned there were other mods that incorporated a similar feature. I don't believe he indicated which ones, however.


    That sounds more like trying to justify the P3 20w limit. Some people seem to think Provape has some kind of in with the FDA. Not anyone in here but if you read other threads you'll see what I mean. Just like you can't stop someone from going to the hardware store and buying parts to make a mech you can't stop them from buying parts to make a regulated mod that'll do 100w.

    I guess the boost could be a game changer for those using low power with heavy wire builds. But with the right build it's not needed.
     

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    Yeah, I can't wait either! :D It's due to ship on the 10th, did I mention that? So, another week + or - on top of that. :glare:

    The Big Buddha, I call it Big Bud, is a pretty awesome tank :thumb: looks great and working fine on the Panzer! :thumbs: I'm just now getting to the bottom of the 2nd tankful with 1.3 ohm, dual setup. Also, 10ml is an awful lot of juice - Georgia Peach has started to taste flat down near the end of the tank :yawn: I had to swap battery at 3.7 v for a fresh 4.19v.

    Next build, I'll shoot for .7 or .8 ohm. The lowest I've ever gone so far is 1.1 ohm on the PanMag. I want to experiment with some ribbon wire I have too - .5mm 1mm and .8mm 1mm. That would be similar to 30g and 28g respectively, but more surface area heating up. The problem working with ribbon is locking the ribbon under the post screws - hard to find washers that small.

    I saw that David had made some neat fasteners when he uses ribbon. Alas, my kingdom for a dremel tool! :facepalm:

    You can trap the ribbon without a washer. I did it before I came up with a fix. The first ones I made I didn't have a dremel. I used a grinder on my drill and a file. I've made new ones now that I have a dremel.

    For me the .6mm ribbon works best for a balance between ohms and surface area. I use the .8mm in my dripper.
     

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    That sounds more like trying to justify the P3 20w limit. Some people seem to think Provape has some kind of in with the FDA. Not anyone in here but if you read other threads you'll see what I mean. Just like you can't stop someone from going to the hardware store and buying parts to make a mech you can't stop them from buying parts to make a regulated mod that'll do 100w.

    I guess the boost could be a game changer for those using low power with heavy wire builds. But with the right build it's not needed.

    I don't read Provari threads anymore so I wouldn't know. None of those threads have changed since day one. Half of them are Provari snobs, the other half are jealous. They deserve each other. And ProVape did not say they are keeping it to 20w to stay under potential FDA limits. The video reviewer said it. He may or may not have insider information as a dealer.

    If one believes that more coil area means more/better vapor then the boost function is valuable for those who like low power but dislike the dwell time needed to heat up the coils.
     

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    Yeah, I can't wait either! :D It's due to ship on the 10th, did I mention that? So, another week + or - on top of that. :glare:

    The Big Buddha, I call it Big Bud, is a pretty awesome tank :thumb: looks great and working fine on the Panzer! :thumbs: I'm just now getting to the bottom of the 2nd tankful with 1.3 ohm, dual setup. Also, 10ml is an awful lot of juice - Georgia Peach has started to taste flat down near the end of the tank :yawn: I had to swap battery at 3.7 v for a fresh 4.19v.

    Next build, I'll shoot for .7 or .8 ohm. The lowest I've ever gone so far is 1.1 ohm on the PanMag. I want to experiment with some ribbon wire I have too - .5mm 1mm and .8mm 1mm. That would be similar to 30g and 28g respectively, but more surface area heating up. The problem working with ribbon is locking the ribbon under the post screws - hard to find washers that small.

    I saw that David had made some neat fasteners when he uses ribbon. Alas, my kingdom for a dremel tool! :facepalm:

    The vape shop called it "Big Kayfun" - I was tempted to tell them to call it the Big Buddha. I was wondering how the capacity was working out for you. That is a lot of juice! Even though HHV is so clean burning, the ones I vape all day tend to be coil gunkers and need a new wick and a coil burn after one or two tanks. So your experience makes sense at almost 10 ml. Glad you are enjoying it though! They had the big Panzer in the same case. You are getting quite the arm workout. Better make sure to alternate while vaping or you'll have one Popeye arm. :laugh:
     

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    Veritas came today! Yep, it's a keeper!

    I had a mild case of the shakes, so building it was a little awkward this morning. Last night's barhopping didn't help any, I'm sure. But I got a dual 0.7Ω set up and wicked. I put the same juice in that I have in the Odin and they are pretty much even flavor wise, though I have them at different resistances. Haven't compared it to the Magma since it's dedicated to BB right now.

    Now would y'all kindly stop talkin' about hardware in this here hardware thread while my wallet cools down?! :mad:
     

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    Veritas came today! Yep, it's a keeper!

    I had a mild case of the shakes, so building it was a little awkward this morning. Last night's barhopping didn't help any, I'm sure. But I got a dual 0.7Ω set up and wicked. I put the same juice in that I have in the Odin and they are pretty much even flavor wise, though I have them at different resistances. Haven't compared it to the Magma since it's dedicated to BB right now.

    Now would y'all kindly stop talkin' about hardware in this here hardware thread while my wallet cools down?! :mad:

    Like that's going to happen. I on the other hand don't have a problem with shinyitis.
     

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    I don't read Provari threads anymore so I wouldn't know. None of those threads have changed since day one. Half of them are Provari snobs, the other half are jealous. They deserve each other. And ProVape did not say they are keeping it to 20w to stay under potential FDA limits. The video reviewer said it. He may or may not have insider information as a dealer.

    If one believes that more coil area means more/better vapor then the boost function is valuable for those who like low power but dislike the dwell time needed to heat up the coils.

    You got those threads nailed for the most part. Coil area is what I'm always reading about. Ribbon wire. Just sayin :vapor:
     

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    Thinking out loud here....

    ProVape has a Satin Silver Mini 2.5 for $130. How stupid would it look to get an Extender End of a different color (black ? purple?) and a Kayfun (or clone) the same color as the extended end ? Or better yet, a SS ProVari with a different color extended end, and a Kayfun (or clone) to match ?
    And which Kayfun (or knockoff) is the same diameter as the Mini, or the Provari ?

    again, just thinking out loud.....
     

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    Thinking out loud here....

    ProVape has a Satin Silver Mini 2.5 for $130. How stupid would it look to get an Extender End of a different color (black ? purple?) and a Kayfun (or clone) the same color as the extended end ? Or better yet, a SS ProVari with a different color extended end, and a Kayfun (or clone) to match ?
    And which Kayfun (or knockoff) is the same diameter as the Mini, or the Provari ?

    again, just thinking out loud.....

    Can't get the same color extender? Oh, you're just thinking out loud. :)

    Pop, it's a personal preference. If you like it, I like it. And anyone who doesn't can kiss your :censored:! You're too old to care what anyone thinks of you.
     
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