Let's Talk Hardware

[Chakris]

It takes over a minute of squeezing to fill up my Magma with this stuff , it wears my hand out .

That's because Clay's bottle tops have smaller holes than HHV bottles - I have to run a 16g needle through them to open them up some.

 

[Chakris]

Dang, guess y'all went to bed...

 

[SamuelMSr]

Not going to bed quite yet

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[TheKiwi]

I dunno. I'm physically inept when it comes to using power tools, so I'm worthless, so all my atties have been untouched.

I've always just used 2mm coils, wicked with organic cotton, and used only MTL inhales. I'm afraid im not much help; I don't really do anything different. Pbursado vaped BB with his KFL too!


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[PapawBrett]

How do the air intakes compare - Svoe vs HCigar? Thinking maybe not enough air on the Svoe to keep it cool while it vaporizes the juice.

Also, what are the specs on the builds and volts/watts?

I usually never go over 4.3 volts on coils in 1.3 - 2 ohm range with my Svoe KFL.

EDIT: PG/VG 70/30 - 50/50

The HCigar Lite + V2 has a second, smaller screw opposite the fill screw. Air adjustment, and I've backed mine out to where it's flush with the surface of the base. To me, it still seems the same as the SM.
Right this minute, 2.0 ohm coil and 4.2V for 8.8W. I routinely run my Grands around 9- 11 Watts, and my VV Grands 10- 12 Watts, so I'd like to go a little higher on the Wattage to get into the range I'm comfortable with. But each time I get above 9W the rayon burns. So back to cotton, for now...
And, as I said before, 30/70 PG/VG.

I think some of my frustration is that I'm used to the simplicity of the RM2. With a gentle push of the thumb, I literally submerge the coil/ wick in e-liquid. Let off with my thumb, and the excess liquid recedes back into the on board bottle. To access the coil and wick, simply unscrew the top cap off of the base. No fill screw, no O-rings, no chimney assembly. By comparison, that makes the KFL seem complicated. Especially when it doesn't work as well as I would like.

 

[Dusty_D]

Well, as PoPop said, he takes those long primer puffs so he's laying on that fire button for a long time. That's really pushing the limits of many attys at 70% VG

I don't know.. It could be that some folks just take a much harder draw, creating a higher vacuum effect. I had a friend that did that with cigs. He'd bum a smoke off me, and I'll be damned if that filter didn't get crushed by the time he finished with it, usually in around 1/2 the time that I did.

Regardless, I'm just upset that the KFL is not working out for Papaw!

 

[PapawBrett]

I don't know.. It could be that some folks just take a much harder draw, creating a higher vacuum effect. I had a friend that did that with cigs. He'd bum a smoke off me, and I'll be damned if that filter didn't get crushed by the time he finished with it, usually in around 1/2 the time that I did.

Regardless, I'm just upset that the KFL is not working out for Papaw!

well, I don't know that you've been overly impressed with the RM5, so nothing lost there. I do still use that P2 in the evenings, so it's still a good trade. Besides, I haven't completely given up, yet.

 

[*RJ*]

The HCigar Lite + V2 has a second, smaller screw opposite the fill screw. Air adjustment, and I've backed mine out to where it's flush with the surface of the base. To me, it still seems the same as the SM.
Right this minute, 2.0 ohm coil and 4.2V for 8.8W. I routinely run my Grands around 9- 11 Watts, and my VV Grands 10- 12 Watts, so I'd like to go a little higher on the Wattage to get into the range I'm comfortable with. But each time I get above 9W the rayon burns. So back to cotton, for now...
And, as I said before, 30/70 PG/VG.

I think some of my frustration is that I'm used to the simplicity of the RM2. With a gentle push of the thumb, I literally submerge the coil/ wick in e-liquid. Let off with my thumb, and the excess liquid recedes back into the on board bottle. To access the coil and wick, simply unscrew the top cap off of the base. No fill screw, no O-rings, no chimney assembly. By comparison, that makes the KFL seem complicated. Especially when it doesn't work as well as I would like.

I use my REOS/RM2 most of the day Papaw. Love the simplicity and easy build. Easy to pop in a new battery too.

 

[Chakris]

The HCigar Lite + V2 has a second, smaller screw opposite the fill screw. Air adjustment, and I've backed mine out to where it's flush with the surface of the base. To me, it still seems the same as the SM.
Right this minute, 2.0 ohm coil and 4.2V for 8.8W. I routinely run my Grands around 9- 11 Watts, and my VV Grands 10- 12 Watts, so I'd like to go a little higher on the Wattage to get into the range I'm comfortable with. But each time I get above 9W the rayon burns. So back to cotton, for now...
And, as I said before, 30/70 PG/VG.

I think some of my frustration is that I'm used to the simplicity of the RM2. With a gentle push of the thumb, I literally submerge the coil/ wick in e-liquid. Let off with my thumb, and the excess liquid recedes back into the on board bottle. To access the coil and wick, simply unscrew the top cap off of the base. No fill screw, no O-rings, no chimney assembly. By comparison, that makes the KFL seem complicated. Especially when it doesn't work as well as I would like.

Hmm, only thing I can suggest then is to hold your thumb over the intake and take a couple powerless drags to bring more juice into the chamber.

On average, how long would you say you hold the power button down for each drag?

I don't know.. It could be that some folks just take a much harder draw, creating a higher vacuum effect. I had a friend that did that with cigs. He'd bum a smoke off me, and I'll be damned if that filter didn't get crushed by the time he finished with it, usually in around 1/2 the time that I did.

Regardless, I'm just upset that the KFL is not working out for Papaw!

My cigs usually ended up like that. The filter would just collapse from the heat when ya get close to the end.

 

[PapawBrett]

Hmm, only thing I can suggest then is to hold your thumb over the intake and take a couple powerless drags to bring more juice into the chamber.

On average, how long would you say you hold the power button down for each drag?

Start to finish.

 

[Bronze]

Start to finish.

 

[kkay59]

That must be it Dusty!

I don't know.. It could be that some folks just take a much harder draw, creating a higher vacuum effect. I had a friend that did that with cigs. He'd bum a smoke off me, and I'll be damned if that filter didn't get crushed by the time he finished with it, usually in around 1/2 the time that I did.

Regardless, I'm just upset that the KFL is not working out for Papaw!

 

[retic1959]

I have vaped 100% VG in this Kayfun 3.1 ES clone that Retic gave me. (it was the Legend he sent me) I don't recall having a problem with vaping it. Now the Boba's Bounty, yes I can vape it too. But I add a few drops of vodka to it. (I've done it both ways, but it is much easier with the vodka) Every so often I will have to pull a vacuum on it. But you can do it. I have vaped Blend 4 in it too. I don't know what VG percent it is, but it is pretty high. I don't understand why Kayfun does not have deeper channels. Why must people file, and drill it, to get them right? Why doesn't Kayfun realize it needs tweaking, and just do it? They have a wonderful device. I hear so many people who have to drill air holes into their gear too. I just don't understand why they don't put a bigger freaking hole in there. Sorry. Papaw, I am feeling your pain. That must be very frustrating. This is an authentic? Do you have a machinist friend? If so, I would seek their help.

KK , I've never had a problem running HHV 100% VG in the 3.1's , the 100% VG from NET.com is much thicker , literally the consistency of molasses , no exaggeration . I wouldn't attempt running it in a kayfun unless I was forced to .

 

[retic1959]

The HCigar Lite + V2 has a second, smaller screw opposite the fill screw. Air adjustment, and I've backed mine out to where it's flush with the surface of the base. To me, it still seems the same as the SM. Right this minute, 2.0 ohm coil and 4.2V for 8.8W. I routinely run my Grands around 9- 11 Watts, and my VV Grands 10- 12 Watts, so I'd like to go a little higher on the Wattage to get into the range I'm comfortable with. But each time I get above 9W the rayon burns. So back to cotton, for now... And, as I said before, 30/70 PG/VG. I think some of my frustration is that I'm used to the simplicity of the RM2. With a gentle push of the thumb, I literally submerge the coil/ wick in e-liquid. Let off with my thumb, and the excess liquid recedes back into the on board bottle. To access the coil and wick, simply unscrew the top cap off of the base. No fill screw, no O-rings, no chimney assembly. By comparison, that makes the KFL seem complicated. Especially when it doesn't work as well as I would like.

Papaw I have a 1 ohm coil in a 3.1 running 100% VG Legend with a rayon wick at 15 watts with no issues , I regularly run .3 - .5 ohm single coils in the Rose with rayon that's 35 to 50 watts roughly and I haven't burnt a wick , the last time I burnt any wick outside of running a tank dry was when I was messing with Protank heads , Hell of a mystery you got going .

 

[Dusty_D]

I don't get it.. I just don't get it.

Retic was it you that had "tweaked" your juice channels? If not, would you be able to post a picture of the inside of your chimney once it's screwed on to the base of the 3.1.

I'd like to see if there's more of a gap at the channels to allow thicker juices to come through on the 3.1's you guys have.

 

[Bronze]

I don't get it.. I just don't get it.

Retic was it you that had "tweaked" your juice channels? If not, would you be able to post a picture of the inside of your chimney once it's screwed on to the base of the 3.1.

I'd like to see if there's more of a gap at the channels to allow thicker juices to come through on the 3.1's you guys have.

You're the one with the problem. The KFLs are just fine.

 

[retic1959]

I don't get it.. I just don't get it. Retic was it you that had "tweaked" your juice channels? If not, would you be able to post a picture of the inside of your chimney once it's screwed on to the base of the 3.1. I'd like to see if there's more of a gap at the channels to allow thicker juices to come through on the 3.1's you guys have.

It wasn't me , mine are stock . I believe David did surgery on his KFL +'s . BK has the same Hcigar 3.1 I'll see if he can post a picture for you .

 

[Chakris]

Start to finish.

 

[Chakris]

Papaw, I'm just trying to get an idea of your vaping style. If you're taking 5-7 second drags, one after another, I can see how a KFL would have trouble keeping up.

Try taking a couple drags then prime the tank, "sans squonking" by holding the air intake close. Then continue vaping again.

 

[always9988]

I really meant that for all gear manufacturers. I love my Kayfun. But it would be so great to be able to have 100% VG, and have something wick like a dream. Yes, no problem with the Legend. I ordered higher VG in my last order of HHV. (well most of it I did) Huntsman, I actually ordered 100% VG. Most of them I asked for 70% VG this time. I did not do that with the Gaia, not yet. I want to see how the 70% works out. I am still trying to find out what I like the best. Oh, and did you know I had absolutely NO trouble vaping Boba's Bounty on my Nautilus Mini? Now I did have to change the coil frequently. But it vaped fine. I had to change the coil like every 3 days most of the time. But it wasn't just the BB that had me change it that much. I don't know how much Halo has percentage wise either. I bought a 7 ml bottle of Turkish Tobacco. I have some in my Kayfun. It is wicking wonderfully.

Halo won't say for sure, but most of the users have guessed their liquids to be 70-80pg