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hudson_macbeth

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The channels are now wider then the one without the logo. But they aren't as deep and I can't get into the corner so it has a choke point. Guess I'll get it set up for tomorrow and see what happens. The black KFL v2 is sounding better.

If you have a dremel, try using one of the engraving bits to get rid of your choke point.
 

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    I honestly wish I knew what to say about malfunctioning KFLs. Honest to God I have never experienced a single dry hit or flooding and I got my first KFL last summer. I've used both silica and cotton. In fact, I've been running cotton exclusively for the last several weeks. I change it after each tank. Wish I could relate.

    It's the same for me Bronze , I read about other peoples problems and solutions , people are constantly struggling with the amount of wick especially with the cotton balls but I've never had a problem and it's hard for me to understand , I'm not super precise with my builds either , I guess it's just luck .
     

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    The channels are now wider then the one without the logo. But they aren't as deep and I can't get into the corner so it has a choke point. Guess I'll get it set up for tomorrow and see what happens. The black KFL v2 is sounding better.

    David you might want to give the hcigar a shot , if that black KFL is Tobeco I've seen an example of the shoddy crap they put out sometimes .
     

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    I'm amazed that you can't detect a difference between Silica and Cotton. Perhaps the clue was in what you said earlier, the part about the first 2mls. I positively HATED that part of it..because it meant half a day for me. With cotton balls it was the first couple of hits. With KGD and Muji, you get true flavour from the very first hit, or you've done something wrong. Perhaps I just dislike compromise at this point in my life, or I'm just a picky bastige! :D

    Gosh Dust...nothing wrong with being picky about that. I understand. One thing that helps is to torch the silica. That eliminates the bulk of the break-in taste. As for cotton, I cannot detect any off-taste even from puff one. Maybe because I saturate and pulse a few times before putting everything back together.
     

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    The bit I have seemed a little big but I used it anyway. So now the channels are bigger. They don't look pretty but who cares. Have a 1.3 coil in and seems to be ok. Guess I'll find out as the day goes on. I have backup if it fails.

    David, you'd be better going deeper than wider. If the channel is deeper, it will make it harder for the wick to clog the channel.
     

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    It's the same for me Bronze , I read about other peoples problems and solutions , people are constantly struggling with the amount of wick especially with the cotton balls but I've never had a problem and it's hard for me to understand , I'm not super precise with my builds either , I guess it's just luck .

    It has to be luck retic. I see all these deep, in-the-weeds discussions about how to place the wicks and I'm not seeing it. Hell, I used to put the evaporation chamber on and just stuff my silica wicks down the side without any attention to overstuffing. Never gave me a problem. I am a little more careful with cotton because the strands are much finer and can fit in the channels easier. I just make sure the cotton bends where the channels is. I situate them before putting the evaporation chamber on.
     

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    It has to be luck retic. I see all these deep, in-the-weeds discussions about how to place the wicks and I'm not seeing it. Hell, I used to put the evaporation chamber on and just stuff my silica wicks down the side without any attention to overstuffing. Never gave me a problem. I am a little more careful with cotton because the strands are much finer and can fit in the channels easier. I just make sure the cotton bends where the channels is. I situate them before putting the evaporation chamber on.

    I stuff mine down , saturate it and push it back against the deck with a mini screwdriver , it hasn't failed me yet , I mean nothing , nada , zilch , zip , no leaks , no gurgling , no dry hits , nothing and I use 100%VG and can chain vape like a locomotive , I feel like I'm defying the laws of physics or something when I read all those posts .
     

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    I stuff mine down , saturate it and push it back against the deck with a mini screwdriver , it hasn't failed me yet , I mean nothing , nada , zilch , zip , no leaks , no gurgling , no dry hits , nothing and I use 100%VG and can chain vape like a locomotive , I feel like I'm defying the laws of physics or something when I read all those posts .

    Better lucky than good?
     

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    Better lucky than good?

    I guess so , but BK stuffs a huge amount of cotton in his 3.1 and I haven't heard of him having any trouble either , I tried his and didn't like the draw on it but it didn't seem to have an effect elsewhise , and he's not the luckiest individual either .
     

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    Not sure the purpose of using lots of cotton unless it is rerouted to lay on the coil (that would make sense). The only useful part of the wick is that distance between where the juice sits and the coil. I never thought the amount of cotton mattered (to a point) but was more a function of not clogging the channel.
     

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    Not sure the purpose of using lots of cotton unless it is rerouted to lay on the coil (that would make sense). The only useful part of the wick is that distance between where the juice sits and the coil. I never thought the amount of cotton mattered (to a point) but was more a function of not clogging the channel.
    Hmmmm , try telling BK that ! :)
    I like my Ehpros. And I think I know why the channels are different.

    Why would they be different ?
     

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    I guess so , but BK stuffs a huge amount of cotton in his 3.1 and I haven't heard of him having any trouble either , I tried his and didn't like the draw on it but it didn't seem to have an effect elsewhise , and he's not the luckiest individual either .

    I wouldnt say its a huge amount... Im only using 1/2 a cotton ball at a time :)
    and BTW I am lucky... Im still alive ;)
    the lightning strike, bike accident, and 2X12 all should have done me in...

    also the coil was a small ID ( .095 IIRC) and was gunked up a tad - it reduced airflow quite a bit compared to a fresh coil
     
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    retic1959

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    I wouldnt say its a huge amount... Im only using 1/2 a cotton ball at a time :)
    and BTW I am lucky... Im still alive ;)
    the lightning strike, bike accident, and 2X12 all should have done me in...

    also the coil was a small ID ( .095 IIRC) and was gunked up a tad - it reduced airflow quite a bit compared to a fresh coil

    A half a ball is a lot to stuff in a kayfun but you still get away with it , I see too many posts saying the kayfun is hard to wick correctly and it baffles the hell out of me , I'm of a mind that most of those problems lie elsewhere or are a combination of errors or defects .
     
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