What do you mean "really shouldn't be on the list"? The Mako is AFAIK the only TRUE 5v device in the whole list as it uses a 5v battery instead of some kind of electronic modification or resistance trick (read wasted power and lower battery life due to heat) to achieve 5v.
There's no such thing as a "5V battery", especially not with NiMH chemistry. It's either a 4-cell 4.8V battery or a 5-cell 6V battery with some kind of regulator built in. The very low capacity (400mAh) would certainly indicate a stack of much smaller cells. So the Maksi uses all the same "tricks" as a regular li-ion mod, they're just bundled up inside a battery pack instead of out in the open. You also have to deal with the memory effect and low discharge rate common to all NiMH batteries as well.
It's almost certainly a stack of 4 1/3AA batteries heatshrunk together. I've never seen a picture of the maksi battery, but based on the "also takes a 3.7V 14650" claim, this would be about the right size (14mmx67mm). So not really 5V (4.8V nominal) and certainly not a single battery. Plus all the other NiMH baggage. The alibaba link was the only one I could find, so yeah, not readily available. Though smokejuice.co.uk sells them for only 6GBP for a pair.
There's nothing wrong with 4.8V. The problem lies with your original insinuation that the mako is a "true 5V device" (it isn't), that traditional 5V mods use "tricks" to get 5V (so does every electronic device that needs a non-native voltage), that the mako doesn't use these "tricks" (it does) and that the mako's battery solution was somehow superior to the usual methods (it isn't).
It's not. A freshly charged 3.7V li-ion battery will read 4.2-4.3V, but you certainly wouldn't call that "4.3V vaping". Well, you would if you were the manufacturer of the Maxx, but they're just lying. Measure that battery again after a few min of vaping. It'll be back down to it's nominal voltage.
I didn't say it's vaping at 5.75v, you just did. I said it's vaping at 5v which if you swap it out at 4.5 for a fresh charge to 5.75v it is as good as. I've been vaping this non stop for an hour now, I just checked the voltage and it's 5.2v. By the time it reaches 4.5 my next battery will be ready at 5.75v again. What's the problem with that?
Everything I just said. NiMH batteries are inferior to li-ion batteries in every way. Whatever voltage they vape at, they won't do it for long because they have such a low energy density. They also have problems with memory effect and poor lifespan in high-drain applications. They are the wrong battery for the job.
That may well be. But I primarily use mine at 6v anyway. The "5v" option is only that, an option. I prefer 6v to 3.7v with LR atty as the hit is much better. The point is, if you want some "limited" 5v action then the Mako can give you that. All be it, not up to your rigid standards. If that excludes it from "the 5v list" then so be it.
Fine, remove it from the list and add it to "the true 6v" list which is what I use it at.
Sure, no worries. I understand but I also know that using that battery is definitely no the same as using a 3.7 so it is more than a standard battery but your explanations have been noted. It's all good.
There's nothing more disingenuous than trying to claim a flaw is actually a feature. NiMH batteries are inconsistent. The fact that they vary widely between fully charged and empty is not something to be proud of. This simply means that the vaping experience will vary significantly during the short life of the battery. In comparison, li-ion batteries remain relatively constant between full and empty. A regulated 5V mod (whatever the method of regulation) will provide exactly 5V for the entire life of the battery. That is far preferable to "somewhere between 5.8V and 4.5V" depending on charge level.
No, I'm definitely referring to NiMH. NiHM may have a less pronounced memory effect than NiCad, but it still exists. Li-ion, in comparison, has no special charge cycle requirements.
