LIttle tiny tube in reo package, is it a reducer tube ?!

[Zurd]

Hi, I love my new reo but when I press the bottle it gives too much juice into my 510 atomizer and if I press a little bit less, it doesn't send juice to the atomizer. I really didn't find the right pressure. And as the bottle empty, the pressure applied to the bottle change so it gets more complicated.

I received a tiny tube with the reo, it's like 2 cm long. I can't really remember but I think I read somewhere it's something about reducing the liquid going to the atomizer. Am I wrong? What is it? I can't find anything about it in the sticky thread nor in any of my searches.

Any help is appreciated.

 

[nerak]

Bingo! It is a reducer tube!!! It is used if you have a thin juice to reduce the flow into the atty. Just insert it into the bottom of the feeder tube, but not too much, you might want to remove it later.

You need to squonk (squeeze the bottle) while drawing on the atty without firing. Very light squonk. Listen for a tiny gurgle and feel a little resistance and STOP. Then you can draw and vape! Takes just a little practice!

 

[Rhapsodies Fire]

Hi Zurd
Yes, that is a reducer tube. It is provided to help restrict the flow of juice that is so thin that it auto feeds and causes flooding. Perhaps in your situation you might want to try to draw (suck) on your drip tip while squeezing the bottle gently until it gurgles....then try vaping. This is a way to draw the juice to the coil of the atomizer without just squeezing the bottle and assuming it gets there. For me, I do a very short draw, almost like a kiss to bring juice up. Let me know if that is helpful.

 

[Zurd]

Thanks all, I'll try your technique rhapsodies and if it doesn't work I'll try also the reducer tube !

 

[Zurd]

Well I tried pushing the bottle while sucking on the atomizer at the same time. Then I tried with the reducer tube. Both aren't perfect technique. Either it's pushing almost no liquid or too much. I hate when my atomizer is gurgling while I puff on it, the vapor isn't as warm and doesn't taste much.

Nothing beats dripping exactly 2 drops. This is consistent every time. I don't really like the fact of dripping while using a bottom-feeder, it kind of defeat its purpose but, still, the Mini Reo is a very good model. Guess I'm gonna stay a dripper while I stick with my LR atomizer.

If anyone has any other technique I can use, here's more information : my eliquid are homemade, they are 85% PG and 15% VG.

 

[Rhapsodies Fire]

hmm....okay, I can tell you that if I had to drip on mine, I would be irritated. So from what I'm getting here, it sounds like you are getting too much juice most of the time. Here are a couple more suggestions.
First, when I was learning how to use each atty, I ended up counting my drags between the squeezing of the bottle. For instance, while learning the 306, I would do the initial juicing, then I would vape about 4-5 drags then do a very short squeeze/kiss and vape another 5-6 drags....until I found a "rhythm" that worked for me. It is now second nature for me, I don't think about it anymore. In fact, I think I squeeze/kiss the bottle about every 8 drags now.
Second, have you considered trying a cartomizer for a while? I have found that cartos appear to be more user friendly with many who are going through the learning curve of a bottom fed device. May I suggest trying the Boge 2.0Ω 510 Cartomizer....I think it has great flavor, decent TH and good vapor production. I found it incredibly easy to use. First fill the cartomizer and let sit over night so the juice soaks in well (I never let it sit over night because I am impatient ) Then attach it to your mod and lightly squeeze the bottle to make sure juice is getting to the carto. Vape until you find the flavor dropping off, then squeeze the bottle gently while drawing on the tip gently until you hear the first little gurgle and stop. Continue vaping.
Please keep us posted. I hope we can help you find a method that works well for you.

 

[mlinky]

Zurd, since you are using a 510, the visual "squonk" technique will work while you get the feel for it. When you need to add juice, lightly press the bottle until you can just begin to see a little liquid at the holes in the overflow well. Release, and the liquid should disappear. Give a short unpowered hit to pull the juice up into the atty. It will now be ready for 5-8 good vapes.

 

[JC Okie]

It just takes a little practice. You don't want to drip when you have one of these awesome little bottom feeders....think about it. It'll definitely be worth the effort you put into conquering it. Once you finally get it to working right, you'll see. It'll become second nature pretty quickly. I know it can get a little frustrating, but it'll be soooo worth the effort. I started squonking back in March and once I got it down, it's been the best thing since sliced bread! You'll never need to carry anything (bottle of juice) around again except the REO. It's very liberating. (I can see my coffee table again for the first time in about a year!) Good luck.

Jan

 

[Zurd]

Thanks all for the info !

Rhapsodies : I tried cartomizer before, wasn't that bad but the taste and the warm vapor with an atomizer just doesn't compare. But now that I have a real good PV, the mini Reo, I should try them again. I also wanna try the dual coil cartomizer, sounds interesting.

For now I tried your new technique mlinky and it worked!

I gently push the bottle until there's a little overflow on the bottom of the atomizer and give it a hit (kind of shaking it) upward, or I can give it a hit while pointing it downward, it also works. There's no gurgling when I vape on it after. I don't know why but it seems that by squeezing the bottle, the liquid fills the hole of the atomizer, which makes it gurgling. I tried to blow in the atomizer to open up the hole but that's not a good idea, don't do it, really, push the liquid out of the hole, makes a real mess.

Now on to find a technique for it that doesn't make me look silly in public while vaping. Anyone has a youtube video for it?

 

[bander68]

I'm so glad this thread was here-I'm going thru the exact same thing. I'm testing everybody's suggestions, and I think I need to get that reducer tube and give it a shot. I'm using a 510LR atty and vaping BWB ejoker's blend (70/30) and it's fairly thin juice, so I'm flooding almost every time I squonk. Tastes great, plenty of vapor, but awfully noisy. Sounds like an eGo with the cone missing if that makes any sense. Just took another hit and realized I'm REALLY hitting it hard. I slowed it down and the hit went silent. Maybe I still need to get used to the switch to a bottom feeder and take it easy, huh?

 

[OaklandCA]

takes 2-3 days and then you can relax... I kept on dripping for a week or two just because.... I prefer the boge cartomizer because it's very forgiving and i hate cleaning atomizers. with my juice taste and vaping style it's cheaper and easier. and you really have to work at it to end up with a mouthful of juice.

 

[Njt07]

if you want to try a carto, and like the 306 try the LR cartos from avidvaper its pretty good and a heckufa lot easier than the atty IMO

 

[Big Hitter]

It really does take some practice and different technique for each atty and every different juice.

Once you get a few months behind you it will be no problem.

I can go all the way from 100% PG to 100% VG with no problems now, and I've never even tried the reducer tube.

 

[mlinky]

For now I tried your new technique mlinky and it worked!

I gently push the bottle until there's a little overflow on the bottom of the atomizer and give it a hit (kind of shaking it) upward, or I can give it a hit while pointing it downward, it also works. There's no gurgling when I vape on it after. I don't know why but it seems that by squeezing the bottle, the liquid fills the hole of the atomizer, which makes it gurgling. I tried to blow in the atomizer to open up the hole but that's not a good idea, don't do it, really, push the liquid out of the hole, makes a real mess.

Now on to find a technique for it that doesn't make me look silly in public while vaping. Anyone has a youtube video for it?

You shouldn't actually get juice in the overflow well. It only takes a gentle squeeze until you just see liquid at the holes. When you release the bottle, the liquid should disappear.

After you have done the squeeze, there is no reason to shake it or turn it upside down. Just give it a short unpowered hit, without squeezing the bottle or firing the REO. That ensures that the juice is up in the coils.

 

[Zurd]

I guess it really takes a lot of practice. Sometimes it works fine, it's better than before where it wasn't working at all.

I'm a little bit confused about that "short unpowered hit", that is like sucking on the atty? I tried it, I can hear it gurgling, the liquid's moving but it's not really working everytime, it's still at the bottom not reaching the coil. I even tried sucking really hard, like trying to drink the liquid, it helps to clear the liquid at the bottom but not 100%.

Also, I didn't make any full-proof statistics, but that 4ml bottle in the mini reo seems to very quickly empty itself. I can go through 4ml in like 3 hours. But if I drip, I go through 3ml in like a day.

 

[mlinky]

You are definitely oversquonking if you are going through 3ml in 4 hours. The short unpowered hit is like sucking through an empty straw; there should just be a little sound of liquid and it is a short hit. And I'm not sure about all of the liquid you say is in the bottom that you are trying to clear. Is this in the overflow well? That should be dry most of the time.

 

[Zurd]

You are definitely oversquonking if you are going through 3ml in 4 hours. The short unpowered hit is like sucking through an empty straw; there should just be a little sound of liquid and it is a short hit. And I'm not sure about all of the liquid you say is in the bottom that you are trying to clear. Is this in the overflow well? That should be dry most of the time.

I'll try to squonk less. But right now I just tried and it's still gurgling, even after sucking on it really hard, I swear it's still gurgling, this is getting on my nerves now, I really hate that gurgling sound. I used to have the wetbox, another bottom-feeder (but poorly constructed), never had this problem with it tho.

The liquid at the bottom that I'm talking about is not in the overflow, I'm not sure but I think it's just inside the atomizer, covering all the tiny holes at the bottom of the atty. Which makes it gurgling when you vape on it.

Oh well, either I'm just stupid or I'm just a dripper

We started having vape meetings in montreal, maybe someone there can show me their techniques, I'm much more visual.

Or maybe I won't have this problem with the reo grande at 6 volts, it's in my list of things to buy next.

 

[nerak]

You mention that you are sucking on it really hard. You should be doing easy, slow draws. If you are going through that much juice it is going somewhere, and that has to be the atty or the drip well. Blind squonking and not looking into the atty to see where the juice is will help you. I kept looking inside when I first started with a atty. Trying to see where the juice was because I didn't want to have it too dry.
You must have it flooded with all of that juice. The gurgle will go away mostly with the correct amount of juice in the atty. When you dripped you didn't hear all the gurgling right? Because there was not a lot of juice present.
With the atty flooded you will not get much if any vapor.
Also check and make sure that the atty is screwed on tight enough. Don't over tighten, but it should be just where it stops turning.
You could blow gently into the atty and clear out some of that juice. See if the drip well fills up. That will tell you if it is flooded.

 

[bander68]

Again, I'm right there with you Zurd. I'm going thru WAY too much juice. I held back a lot today on my Grand. I kept a loaded eGo with me and kept switching off because I'm running low on my favorite juice and vendor is on vacation until next week. Even with my reserved usage, I still vaped an easy 2ml today. And nearly every squonk leads to a gurgling atty. Oddly, it still hits GREAT even though it's flooded. I've tried the non-powered hit, a trick I learned months ago with my egos. It helps, but it doesn't clear it out. I'm at the point where I've calculated that if I keep this pace up, I'm going to be vaping around 6ml/day, which equates to 180ml/month, which equates to $100/month just on juice. Still way cheaper than cigs, but nowhere near as cheap as my spending before my Grand. I've got to get this figured out. I think I need to put another juice in there that I have plenty of and spend a weekend just practicing. Hey, that sounds pretty fun actually! Why do I have the feeling my wife won't go for it?

EDIT/ADDENDUM
I just tried blind squonking and got it right! It worked without gurgle. Drawback-less hits before re-squonking. And I'm not sure if I'll use less juice this way. We'll see when I can manage to stop for long enough to check my juice level.

 

[mlinky]

I'll try to squonk less. But right now I just tried and it's still gurgling, even after sucking on it really hard, I swear it's still gurgling, this is getting on my nerves now, I really hate that gurgling sound. I used to have the wetbox, another bottom-feeder (but poorly constructed), never had this problem with it tho.

The liquid at the bottom that I'm talking about is not in the overflow, I'm not sure but I think it's just inside the atomizer, covering all the tiny holes at the bottom of the atty. Which makes it gurgling when you vape on it.

Oh well, either I'm just stupid or I'm just a dripper

We started having vape meetings in montreal, maybe someone there can show me their techniques, I'm much more visual.

Or maybe I won't have this problem with the reo grande at 6 volts, it's in my list of things to buy next.

Blow your atty out and drip a few drops. Vape normally. Now, when you would normally drip again, just LIGHTLY squeeze the bottle until you just begin to see liquid in the holes, now RELEASE. That is all the squeezing you need to do. You should only be adding a few drops to the atty, like dripping, but through the bottom.

You don't have to do a short unpowered hit (if you do, NO MORE SQUEEZING) just try vaping what you have. See if that works.