LOL SUCH A NOOB! gimmie some help!

[henney2280]

ok so im new to vaping, only been vaping since christmas day. i started with a skycig and yeah ive just recived my 1st mod today (L-rider lambo 4.0) although it was advertised on the website as a lavatube (confused)... i decided after reading various things on here that mods are the way to go.

so yeah just made a BIG mistake and i think ive screwed 2 of my cartomizers up. i was playing around with it and different voltages i put it on like 5.0v coz its goes to 6.0v i thought i would be fine trying it at that voltage.... how wrong i was! i got a horrible taste like i was smoking a cigerette filter and now im left with that nasty taste in my cartomizer. Few questions....

1. Is there any kind of guide to what voltage i should vape at?
2. Are both of my cartomizers dead now?
3. I find the flavours are much different compared to when i had them in my SKYCIG and not really as nice imo, could this be because of the chrome drip tip insted of the plastic carto in the skycig, or is it simply the voltage?
4. Im finding it very wierd to vape this mod im getting loads of vapour and crazy throat hits, its not really the same as when im pulling on my SKYCIG, is this something i will get used to?

Sorry for sounding like such an idiot... but i am one!

 

[Absintheur]

You may have noticed that cartos come in different ohm ratings, the lower the ohms to lower the voltage you need to use or they fry...

this chart will help you match voltage to ohms...

https://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9dkanCt0I1qc8949o2_1280.png

 

[henney2280]

You may have noticed that cartos come in different ohm ratings, the lower the ohms to lower the voltage you need to use or they fry...

this chart will help you match voltage to ohms...

https://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9dkanCt0I1qc8949o2_1280.png

yeah just found this out, i didnt know they would fry that bad... deffo learnt from that mistake, possibly the worst thing ive tasted. its quite shocking how much power theese mods have compared to my little skycig... quite impressed but gunna take sum adjusting

 

[GrannyGrump]

Took me awhile also. Now I always start at the lowest setting and work my way up if not using the chart. After awhile you will get the hang of it.

 

[bruiser]

Start out at 3.5V and adjust upward as necessary until it tastes the way you want.

 

[henney2280]

Thanks all!, certainly dont wanna taste that again, i just thought i ran out of liquid really quick lol

 

[Stormlark]

When I first started vaping, I asked how I'd know when the cartridge was burnt. They said I'd know when it happened. They were right. Worst thing I ever tasted.

 

[sawlight]

ok so im new to vaping, only been vaping since christmas day. i started with a skycig and yeah ive just recived my 1st mod today (L-rider lambo 4.0) although it was advertised on the website as a lavatube (confused)... i decided after reading various things on here that mods are the way to go.

so yeah just made a BIG mistake and i think ive screwed 2 of my cartomizers up. i was playing around with it and different voltages i put it on like 5.0v coz its goes to 6.0v i thought i would be fine trying it at that voltage.... how wrong i was! i got a horrible taste like i was smoking a cigerette filter and now im left with that nasty taste in my cartomizer. Few questions....

1. Is there any kind of guide to what voltage i should vape at?
2. Are both of my cartomizers dead now?
3. I find the flavours are much different compared to when i had them in my SKYCIG and not really as nice imo, could this be because of the chrome drip tip insted of the plastic carto in the skycig, or is it simply the voltage?
4. Im finding it very wierd to vape this mod im getting loads of vapour and crazy throat hits, its not really the same as when im pulling on my SKYCIG, is this something i will get used to?

Sorry for sounding like such an idiot... but i am one!

1) General rule of thumb, take the resistance of the carto and add 2 to get a close voltage, then adjust from there.
2) Maybe? You can try to boil them to clean out the burnt taste, but.............
3) It's the voltage, most likely you are running it way to high.
4) You will get used to it, but getting your voltage closer will help a lot of that.

It's easy to get carried away and crank it up when first playing with VV, been there myself! It's a matter of finding the right flavor and throat hit, without burning it. At first you want all the vapor and throat hit, then you either get a massive buzz or burn up the carto's! You just need to settle down a bit and not get so crazy and power hungry, which as I said, we are all guilty of starting out.
Taking the resistance and adding two will get you very close to 8watts, what most people like anyway.
It's all good, live and learn, carto's are decently cheap, so no big loss, it will come to you!
Enjoy and welcome to ECF!

 

[Thucydides]

My tip: When I'm unsure, I start my voltage at 3.6v and adjust up or down from there for flavor and vapor volume. 3.6v will work very safely on pretty much anything.

 

[henney2280]

does less volts mean more flavour but less vapour and more volts mean more vapour but less flavour? obviously depends on the juice but is that a decent rule of thumb?

 

[Pit]

Not really. About vapor production pretty much. Juices it can very much go either way. Some do well at low voltage, others really need higher voltage to truly bring out the flavor and shine.

 

[sawlight]

8 watts is the general concensus for the compromise, Volts squared times ohms if you really want to go there.
Using an Ohms calculator, 1.7 ohm carto add two and you get 3.7v, that's 8.05 watts. A 2 ohm carto, add 2 that's 4v, that's 8 watts. A 3 ohm carto, add 2 that's 5v, that's 8.33 watts.
Really, adding two to the carto resistance will get you VERY close to where most people will like it. Then you can tweak from there for what suits you.
Vapor comes from the mixture of juice, throat hit comes from the mixture of juice. Want more of one, you will get less of the other. Voltage can change that withing certain parameters, more power will give more throat hit, until it burns. Some juice likes 10-11 watts, some likes less than 8. I've heard tell of people vaping at 20 watts, I have a hard time buying that, but can't disprove it!
Really, use the add 2, see how it tastes, then adjust up and down from there if you feel you need to.

 

[Thucydides]

does less volts mean more flavour but less vapour and more volts mean more vapour but less flavour? obviously depends on the juice but is that a decent rule of thumb?

In broad strokes, yes. Higher volts = more vapor, other things being equal. More volts generally mean less flavor, but the flavor also changes (again, other things being equal). Different juices are better at different voltages, and different folks like the flavor at different voltages at different moments depending on their mood.

The reason I emphasize "other things being equal" is that the resistance of the atomizer or cartomizer determines how much power they are going to use, and what really creates the vapor is the wattage that results from the combination of resistance of the cartridge (measured in Ohms) and the voltage of the battery. That said, you don't really have to worry about those details of you don't want to.

 

[zapped]

Good rule of thumb concerning VV devices and resistance.

Add 2 to the resistance of your atomizer/cart/clearo and that will get you pretty close to optimum range for flavor and vapor production.

For example a 2.0 ohm cartomizer +2 equals 4 volts...thats what I set the volts at and adjust up or down from there according to taste.
I usually dont go any higher than .6 volts above or below that.

If youre using dual coils, double the resistance of the carto to use the equation above.

 

[Rocketpunk]

I think there was a thread a week or so ago about "Is 3.8 volts It?"

Well, for me, I think so.

Remember, I'm probably using a different setup than you. My cousin likes his absinthe (licorice) flavor at 5 volts on his provari. I can't tell you what ohm cartos he's using, but I can tell you, I can't vape at 5 volts.

What I'm using are smoktek 2.0 ohm low resistance single-coil, single-hole laser punched cartos on a Lavatube, a Twist, and a Kgo VV. My Lavatube and my Kgo are locked at 3.8 volts. My Twist is at that notch right "before" 4.0. Anything over 4.0 volts on any of my devices, the juices taste different. 80/20 pg/vg, but I'm starting to question this "ratio". Learning that some vendor's VG is A LOT thicker than other vendor's VG. I've had "80/20 pg/vg" juice with 24 mg nicotine, right next to another bottle of "80/20 pg/vg" juice with 24 mg nicotine, and one will be WAAAAAAY more viscous than the other.

I've never been happier with my carto tank setup. Once I figured out how to properly use and fill a carto tank, I have been in vaping heaven. None of that rebuilding stuff you get with wicking devices (i.e., clearos). Granted, some people LOVE to rebuild, it's a hobby, and that is totally cool. It tickles your synapses. Thumbs up!

But as for pure simplicity and pure flavor and 99.9% performance, I'll never walk away from my carto tanks.

 

[Liquid9]

I agree with the others who have said add 2 to what ever your ohms are and adjust from there. I'm usually in between 3.8 and 4.3

 

[volume control]

Im with the person who said boil them to get the burnt taste out. You may not have killed those carts as you suspect.

 

[mudshovel]

Like most people have said. It's trial and error. I usually only get 3.0 ohm and run them around 5V. Just adjust up or down. If you don't have a device that reads the ohm of your carto you it shouldn't really matter. They are usually +/- .1 or .2. I have found my "go to" vape. Its a carto tank. I rarely get a burnt taste because the tank keeps the carto moist. I take just a carto to work and hate how it gets dry so quick. You've definately come to the right place. Its easier to learn from other's mistakes than have to learn from your own. Keep on vapin!

 

[Orobas]

This thread is why i wouldnt recommend VV to a new vaper, regardeds of how much my opinion butthurts some people and causes them to blog passive aggressive rants about it in the blog. Lol.

 

[exodus454]

As you found out, cartos can be pretty succeptable to burning like that, even when completely soaked in juice. Some cartos have better ability to handle more power, but generally once they're burnt - that's it for that one. They'll actually burn physically, melting a little bit of the tube around the coil or the polyfill which is why you can't get the taste out afterwards.

It's funny, after reading this thread I never thought to simply "add 2" to the resistance of the carto and there's your starting voltage. I found that out on my own by starting low and working up over and over and over again, and adding two really does work out to be pretty close almost every time. "Add 2" is a hell of a lot easier to explain, too!

Flavor and vapor tend to be kind of bell-curve shaped. As you start low and work up you'll get more flavor and vapor, but past a certain point it'll start to diminish. You really just have to play around with it, and experience will come with time.

Oh, and boiling cartos is hardly worth it. The amount of screwing around it takes to get a carto completely flushed out and dried completely is ridiculous given the fact that they probably don't cost more than $1.50/ea. They never seem to work right after being cleaned either.