Long time vaper, help me find new setup (ProVari user)

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Hey guys,

I'm a long time vaper, been at it for 2 or 2.5 years and saved tons of cash over smoking. After an initial blunder of ordering a ProSmoke, I bought two ProVari V2's, one satin black and one chrome. They have been rock solid for over two years, even with countless abuse and little to no upkeep. I'm even still on my original 2 AW IMR 18490 batteries. I've mostly used Phiniac tanks with Boge cartos, though I have tried a couple integrated tank/atty systems (models in my sig), as well as a Z Atty Pro. The cheaper systems were affordable but had reduced flavor and airy draws I wasn't crazy about. I really wanted to like the Z Atty, I can reliably build coils to a given resistance, but could never get it to feed properly. I also hated the limitations in use and the leaking if turned upside down. Even just sitting on the couch, using it was a chore... much less out and about, and unless I sat there twirling it, it was nothing but dry hits... hence the feeding issues. I pretty much gave up on it and it's collecting dust. Once in a great while I would get a great hit that had amazing flavor, but the consistency was never there for me.

This all brings me to my current situation. I was recently in Vegas for my mother's birthday, and ended up losing my satin black ProVari V2 in a cab. I tried to track it down but it was a lost cause. Thankfully I had redundancy, but it was still a big loss and now I only have a single ProVari and battery. I'm really not up to speed on where advancements have been made in the industry, but I see there are tons of new products out. I basically used what I had, and had no interest in upgrading. I felt like doing it "right" from the beginning saved me a lot of money in upgrading over and over.

I'm thinking of buying a ProVari Mini V2.5, a slightly smaller form factor would be nice sometimes and I could live with reduced battery life of a 18350 in those occasions. What I don't know is if there are better options out there now, I'm not a cloud chaser and I love the flexibility VV provides so a mechanical mod is out. What I really care about is quality and dependability, made in the USA is a nice bonus... I don't have any interest in something cheap that may break in a few months. My budget is pretty open, upwards of $200-$300 would be preferred. It doesn't seem like Provape has made a lot of advancements in the 2.5 years I've been using mine, but on the other hand mine have worked great and were so dependable. I'm not 100% tied to ProVari, or even tube mods, but I do seem to prefer them. It absolutely MUST be the same size or smaller than my current ProVari V2.

I'm also really curious about new Atty tank systems. Filling cartos sucks, but I've put up with it because the draw and taste were good. What I'd love is if I could get a similar draw and taste, in something that lasts a long time but without the drawbacks I've experienced before. I don't want to have to build the things, I don't want it to leak... I'd really prefer to just fill up the tank and be done. The tank also needs to be Pyrex as I mostly vape Radiator Pluid which eats plastic. Are there any products like this now, that aren't Genesis style and don't require rebuilding? The quality of the Phiniac tanks are great, I've dropped them onto tile from 4 feet and it's like nothing even happened... the cartos are the weak spot in the system though. I rarely get more than a week or two before it starts getting a burnt. taste. I'd be fine keeping with this system, if there's nothing bulletproof out there now that is easy, quality and dependable.

To sum of my novel up:
  • Been using 2 ProVari v2's since I started vaping 2.5 years ago
  • Love the quality and dependability of the ProVaris
  • Lost a ProVari last weekend in Las Vegas
  • Need to replace my lost ProVari, need suggestions on new VV or VW set up (no mechanical mods)
  • Thinking about a ProVari Mini V2.5, smaller form factor would be a nice compliment to my survivor chrome ProVari V2 and I like the redundancy of this option (sharing batteries, caps, tanks, etc)
  • It absolutely MUST be the same size or smaller than my current ProVari V2.
  • NO CLONES, made in USA preferred.
  • Dependability/Reliability paramount, I do not need tons of power/not a cloud chaser.
  • Are there any new tank systems out there that don't require manual rebuilding, that are rock solid dependable, easy to fill, and have great taste and draw?
 
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I'd honestly go for a Cana modz with an Aspire Nautilus Mini. The Cana has more power than a Provari and the NM is getting the most stellar reviews of any nonrebuildable tank system

I don't care at all about power. I don't even use half the power on the ProVari, and since I'm not interested in cloud chasing, building crazy set ups, sub ohms etc, this is a non factor to me. Dependability and quality are my only criteria. I will look into the Nautilus tank.

Edit: just looked up the Cana. I'm not at all interested in a clone of anything. I'd really prefer only genuine products regardless of form factor. Made in USA preferred. This device seems geared towards people who want power, that's not me. I updated the summary, although this was outlined and bolded in the text section.

Nope, from what I've read, Provape is pretty tight lipped when it comes to new releases.

Yeah I searched after you mentioned it and like you said, they are very tight lipped. Only speculation I saw was that it could land anywhere from a few months from now, to a full year.
 
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I too started with the Provari (2.5) and saved a lot of hassle. I also enjoyed carto tanks but recently got a Kayfun Lite Plus. (Yes, rebuildables but easy and No leakage). Only drawback is the plastic tank (for your liquid choice). You could just use the stainless steel one that comes with it? I also very much enjoy my Reos (mini and Woodvile). Yes, rebuildables but perhaps the easiest out there. The flavor is amazing. Dripping without the hassle. Just my 2 cents. I too enjoy buying USA made stuff and originals. Enjoy your hunt!
 
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There's no real step up from a provari for your vape style. There's the Svoemesto Semovar but its not really a step up as much as its on par with provari. Maybe its a little prettier. The Cana is in no way as reliable or durable. A kayfun is a wonderful tank..easy to rebuild and out performs any aspire, pro tank......any non rebuildable tank.
 

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I've been using a VaporShark, with a Squape Revised or an Expromizer on top!

Great flavor, tons of vapor..... and VaporShark is TINY, but lasts me all day and can be recharged with any micro USB!

The VaporShark is American made. All of the items are originals, not clones....

If $$$ is an issue, go with the Expromizer... it's about $80, still a bit expensive, but much less then the Squape R (about $180).

If you have a Bricks and Mortar store near you, they can build out the tank for you. One store near me does it for free, another charges $5... neither will break the bank.

Great thing is, it's EASY to change the wick... go with some organic cotton, and you eliminate the need and expense to buy coils every so often, and you'll get much better flavor from a rebuildable! Once the coil is built, you really don't need to change it for quite a while... just pull out the wick when it starts to go bad, dry burn the coil to clean it, and put a new wick in the existing coil!

When you feel up to it, watch a few YouTube videos on how to rebuild your device and you'll find it's not that hard, and can actually be fun!

Great thing about either tank is, they hold a LOT of juice, and don't leak at all!

(Erlkonigin is another excellent tank, from what I hear... however, it's priced similarly to the Squpae R)

Keep in mind, these are only one time costs....

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He wants simplicity and dependability, on a kayfun you need to make your own coils and wick. Plus the wicking can get problematic depending on juice density, the quality of the gouges on your kayfun and your patience in finding a good build.
Yes it's better than a carto, but if you can't be bothered with rebuilding it doesn't matter, you won't put the necessary energy into making it work correcty.
The aerotank and nautilus might be options though.

And as for mod i'd say either a provari 2.5 or a dna 20 or 30 mod.
Even if you don't need the watts the vaporshark dna30 might make sense because it's tiny and has built in usb charging (and i reckon you can vape while it's charging.) Might be an advantage over carrying batteries or not depending on how you work and all that. The battery is fixed in the unit. Also not sure about the durability, i guess you'd want to see one in person.
 

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Thanks for the responses guys, lots of good input.

I went went ahead and ordered a ProVari Mini 2.5 in gunmetal Zenkote with extended endcap, a couple 18350's, a couple 18490's and some trim rings.

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Does anybody know if ProVari offers restoration services? When I get the new set up I'd be interested in sending in my current Chrome full size V2 for a thorough cleaning and possible refinishing. I know they do out of warranty repair work, but I'm not sure if they offer refinishing work. Mine is scratched up pretty good, but otherwise works perfect.

Regarding the Kayfun, I have read good things but reviewers (GrimmGreen in particular) seemed blown away by the Nautilus Mini, said he hasn't bothered using the Kayfun since he got the Nautilus Mini from Aspire for testing, and that this was his new favorite. One thing to note is that he put the new BVC heads in the original Nautilus, combining the larger size of the original Nautilus with the superior (per GrimmGreen) mini BVC atomizer head. I haven't ordered a fullsize yet, which would be a good fit for my full size V2 set up, but likely will when the replacement BVC heads hit the market which is just now happening. I'm looking forward to having a slightly shorter set up, although the Nautilus will likely be taller overall than my XL V2 Phiniac tank set ups (size of Boge XL cartos).

If I don't like the Nautilus tanks I will look into other options like the Kayfun. What I can say for sure is that a fill and go experience would be ideal for me. I've never liked filling cartos, and I certainly never had a good experience with RBA's using my Z-Atty-Pro. Like I said in my OP, I can reliably build the coils to a given resistance, I just couldn't get it to wick properly... ever. It's too much fiddling for me, I've got more than enough stuff to fill my time. Maybe the loss of my satin black ProVari might just lead to a positive, who knows!
 
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The Provari 2.5 is such a great choice. You are already familiar with their quality and how they work. I would just send a note to Provape with your questions. They will get back to you pronto. Great customer service. I know that they do lightning fast and inexpensive repairs but don't know about finishing work. I might also suggest looking at their website re EASY weekly maintenance (rubbing alcohol a-tip).
 

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Grats on the new provari! That gun metal is sharp! I hear you on the rebuilding but if it makes you feel any better, building a Genny and getting it right is a lot harder than building a kayfun. Kayfuns are very simple builds. I've used the Nautilus and the mini Nautilus.... they're pretty good. I just hate relying on packaged heads..... bad memories.
 

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I'll definitely send Provape an email today or tomorrow inquiring about the restoration and let you guys know what they say. It'd be nice to have the full size V2 looking good again, it's been through battle but kept on ticking. The chrome was one of the lasts they offered, it was actually a "blemished" unit, though you never would have been able to tell by looking at it when new. They said the logo was too light, I can still see it very well today. I do however think that engraving the logos into the body makes more sense than the laser etching or whatever this was, from a durability standpoint.

Even though I'm not a cloud chaser a DNA30 equipped mod interested me just because it seems fairly advanced, but I didn't see one that piqued my interest as far as build quality or design. It looks like Zen/House of Hybrids makes a ZNA that looks cool, but like everything else he makes it's not easily/readily available and quite honestly, I don't really feel like giving him more money with how much I hate the Z-Atty-Pro. On the flip side its expertly machined and made/designed in the USA which I love.
 

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I went onto the Provape website and in the process of contacting them stumbled upon this. Oh well.


Do You Offer Touch Ups to ProVari Finishes?

Unfortunately, because another company does the colored finishes, we do not have the ability to offer touch ups to your tubes.



I'm still going to contact them, just to be 100% sure they can't have the company do a full blast and refinish on it.
 
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