Long time vaper, long time in silence with some Questions.

[Drummel]

First of all, hello to everyone!

It has been QUITE some time since I've posted last. I have been using various forms of ego and cartos and prior just basic atomizers with various types of wicking material. Build my own box mods back in the day (nothing compared to today's market of course). 510's been my favorite choice all of these years.

About 2? years ago I switched to clearomizers and certainly enjoyed having an overall better experience. Better overall flavor and vapor.

Moving forward. I wanted to dabble in something a little more advanced. I am not into mechanical mods at this point. My old boxes have been retired for the convenience of ready made and very accessible parts for standard PV's. (ego+510..etc)

I just recently received an IPV Mini 2 and an Atlantis 3ml tank with 1ohm coils. I am not interested in Sub ohming, I don't need super clouds

I understand now that standard Lithium Ion batteries seem to be considered the "obsolete" choice, per the battery FAQ.

I have 3 18650's at 2200mah @ 3.7v They don't state any C value. I do understand the principles of ohms law and how VIR works in general. So if I take what I know/have. 3.7v battery with a 1ohm coil (tested both on the IPV Mini and on a resistance tester, the battery reads at 3.69 to 3.71 on the volt meter when fully charged and rested so I feel comfortable that the battery is 'safe' in terms of regular use within it's limits. And with ohms law that suggests I could run the box at around 13.7watts max.

I do not know how to calculate the actual "max" amps of the battery without straining it unsafely though. I see all these new batteries that I am personally unfamiliar with. I have read the battery FAQ's and the new batteries seem to all have a Max/Pulse value. These "older" batteries do not list this. I have looked on the internet through google and I can't find readily available specs in that regard.
As far as what's on the battery wrapper is fairly standard:

ICR18650 (which I understand plainly as Lithium/Cobalt/Round) and the number is it's size.
2200mAh (which I also understand in terms of usage within an hour)
3.7v (it's voltage )
Joyetech TM (supposedly branded)
One thing to note - these were purchased from LitCig and even on their site it is not stated for amp OR if it is truly a protected battery or not.

Now using all this information I still can't find the actual max amp allowance.
Should I just go recycle these batteries and starting using the hybrids to be safe and sure when I up the wattage? Or should I just continue to use these within safe value and (potentially) miss out on an experience of exploring the values of this IPV Mini 2's and it's capabilities?

Once again, happy to be posting here again and I love lurking this forum. You guys have ALWAYS been wonderful.

Thanks
Don

 

[VaPreis]

I can't comment on your battery's capability, other then that I'd invest in a couple of new ones.....

What I can comment on from experience, is that iPV Mini 2 does NOT down regulate. Or in other words, what ever the current state of the battery's charge is, is the lowest voltage it will fire at, despite what the screen says. That is something to consider when determining what kind of load is actually being placed on your battery.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

I do not know how to calculate the actual "max" amps of the battery without straining it unsafely though. I see all these new batteries that I am personally unfamiliar with. I have read the battery FAQ's and the new batteries seem to all have a Max/Pulse value. These "older" batteries do not list this. I have looked on the internet through google and I can't find readily available specs in that regard.
As far as what's on the battery wrapper is fairly standard:

with a 1 ohm coil you don't have to worry so much, even at 100 watts you'll only draw 10 amps...

Here's a very very very simple calculator to figure our what you'll be drawing from your batteries, just enter two fields then click calculate.

Watts/Volts/Amps/Ohms conversion calculator

The thing you are looking for is how much amps you need and making sure your battery can handle the load.

Best bet is to get some like a VTC4 or VTC5 just make sure to get it from a reputable vendor.

 

[Train2]

First - here's a calculator - fill in the 2 knowns (voltage and resistance) and it fills in the rest.
But - your fully charged batteries should read 4.2 volts.
I know it's weird, they are 3.7 nominal voltage batteries - but when charged up, they should come off the charger at 4.2. If your's are only reading 3.7, then either the charger or the battery is shot!

 

[Train2]

Oh - and for great, safe batteries with a good run-time at your kind of power, I'd suggest the AW IMR or the Samsung 25R, and RTD Vapor is probably the most-recommended vendor here on ECF.

 

[DavidOck]

Train beat me to it. They should read 4.2 or 4.1 freshly charged. Due to their age and (guessing!) usage history, I'd suspect them rather than the charger.

Good batteries are (relatively) cheap. Start your new course with new one.

 

[stevegmu]

ICR batteries aren't safe for vaping...

 

[crxess]

ICR batteries aren't safe for vaping...[/QUOT

..........in sub-ohm, high wattage or mechanical Mod applications.

 

[Dopefish]

If you aren't going to do extreme sub ohm (< .2 ohm) you can easily get away with the cheaper samsung or lg batteries (these are rated at 20 amps I believe) instead of the VTC4's or 5's which can be a bit hard to find, just make sure that you don't exceed the rated current for the battery as that can cause catastrophic failure

 

[Drummel]

Thanks for some of this information. With what I have read through the forum, battery FAQ, and what have you for outside research I think i am just going to take these babies in to be recycled and start fresh.

In the meanwhile I still have my trusty old ego I can use with my cartos and clearomizer.

Sort of still on subject. The IPV Mini 2 was a gift, would it potentially be advisable to have it returned and get a different APV?
I really don't need anything crazy. I don't think I would EVER consider running over 30w for quicker response for fast puffs and TH
I also imagine I will still be tooting away on lower settings because sometimes I just enjoy slow steady drags that don't have any TH but still have nice flavor - some extra vapor volume may be nice, but not needed most of the time.

Thanks again,
Don

 

[DavidOck]

If you like the way it feels in your hand, and like the way it vapes, unless you really want something different, maybe just keep it? You don't have to run it at the high end, and running at the low end will give longer time between battery charge/swap. And you DO need to have backups of everything, anyway!

I have a few devices that will go to 30 watts, but use them around 8 - 10. Having more power than you need (as long as it will go low enough for satisfaction!) isn't a bad thing, and may be a form of "future-proofing."

 

[edyle]

Don't give up on those home made mods of yours!

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[DingerCPA]

Thanks for some of this information. With what I have read through the forum, battery FAQ, and what have you for outside research I think i am just going to take these babies in to be recycled and start fresh.

In the meanwhile I still have my trusty old ego I can use with my cartos and clearomizer.

Sort of still on subject. The IPV Mini 2 was a gift, would it potentially be advisable to have it returned and get a different APV?
I really don't need anything crazy. I don't think I would EVER consider running over 30w for quicker response for fast puffs and TH
I also imagine I will still be tooting away on lower settings because sometimes I just enjoy slow steady drags that don't have any TH but still have nice flavor - some extra vapor volume may be nice, but not needed most of the time.

Thanks again,
Don

I have an iPV Mini and the Mini2. I don't crank overly hard on either of those devices (at this time, my batteries are just fine for the ~1.5 ohm coils I'm normally running.) I like my iPVs. They're a bit heavy for me, but they get used mostly at home anyway. I think I got to 22-23W on the Mini2 one time (this one time at band camp....) I really like them, as they were my first big step past my Vamo last year. Unless you just don't like the form-factor, no reason to make it go away

 

[roxynoodle]

Yes, time for some new batteries . Samsung 25r, LG he2 or 4 or Sony vtc are all good batteries. I usually buy from illumn.com.

If you are happy with the vape from your ipv, there's no need for a new mod. If its hitting too hard for you then you will want a mod with "step down" (also called buck) capability.