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Longest lasting atomizer

Discussion in 'General Vaping Discussion' started by Lorddrek, Mar 30, 2009.

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  1. Lorddrek

    Lorddrek Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 6, 2009
    I am interested in knowing what brand of atomizer seems to consistantly last a long time. Cleaning seems to help the lifespan so if that was done tell me about that too. Thanks!

  2. carol

    carol Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 25, 2009
    i,ve got lucky with one of mine, it's working still from november 2007.
    A penstyle Sedansa
  3. surbitonPete

    surbitonPete Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 25, 2009
    North Yorkshire UK
    I think what type or make of atomizers last longest wouldmake an interesting poll.......can someone set one up??
  4. CandyGirl

    CandyGirl Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 3, 2009

    2007 carol? wow.
    how often do you use it?
    about how much liquid per week on average?
  5. carol

    carol Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 25, 2009
    Well to be honnest it was my first and smoked it for about 2 months daily, then i started collecting many many more e-cigs.
  6. Ryle

    Ryle Super Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 21, 2008
    Durant, Ok
    My very first black 901's still kickin strong (bought it 08/08) it looks like crap though.. it's supposed to be black but it's looking more.. sick.. lol the paint doesn't hold up well with me apparently.. but both of my blue atomizers I bought back in..idk.. January I guess it was.. have crapped out on me in the last week :( I think it may just be luck of the draw... though I am interested how Carol's gotten one to stay alive for over a year..
  7. trog100

    trog100 Moved On ECF Veteran

    May 23, 2008
    its easy.. you pop it on shelf and use something else.. i have loads that have lasted me for ages doing this.. still as good as new.. amazing aint it... he he

  8. rlorange

    rlorange Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 2, 2009
    Keep your atomizer wet with juice and it will last as long as possible. If you vape it dry even for a little bit crap with crustify on the heating coil. If you keep your carts topped up with juice after every vape this helps. I don't usually drip unless it has run dry on me.

    There are many ideas on cleaning but I simply immerse in a saucepan with boiling water and white vinegar for a half hour once a week. make sure it is dry before using then drip some juice in and let it soak in with a fresh cart, shorting out an atomizer will kill it and your battery.

    If it dies completely then my feeling is that its has burnt out the coil but others tell me that a soaking in some chemical may resurrect it. If it has just stopped working well then here is my method.

    step1: boil in water and vinegar.

    step2: soak in caustic soda and hot water, this will attack the organic and carbon deposits on your coil.

    Step3: rinse in boiling water

    step4: soak in descaling liquid and water (phosphoric acid). This will break away salt deposits and strip away the surface tarnish on the metal giving better battery contact as well.

    step5: final boiling water rise.

    If this doesn't help then I'm not sure what else will
  9. Walrus

    Walrus Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 3, 2009
    Baton Rouge, LA
    The 'long lasting' atomizer is a myth, and it hangs out with the Loch Ness monster, the Great White Buffalo, Bigfoot, and Elvis.

    There is no quality control or standards... two seemingly identical atomizers can (and often do) have radically different life spans.
  10. Sun Vaporer

    Sun Vaporer Moved On ECF Veteran

    Jan 2, 2009
    Walrus--that is as true a statement as it gets. Some are duds out of the box, some last a day, some a week, others longer. The quality control is just not there. ---Sun
  11. kinabaloo

    kinabaloo Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    But it's also partly down to how it's used and looked after.

    Also, I'm sure they all work when leave production. But there is transit too. At the end of the day the heating coil is a very fine filament, almost like a light bulb, and just like light bulbs, some will go sooner due to an indetectable imperfection. It would happen like this even if you rolled your own, so to speak.
  12. Sun Vaporer

    Sun Vaporer Moved On ECF Veteran

    Jan 2, 2009
    That is also true--IMO--if you get an atomizer and it lasts 5 full days--then with maintence, there should be no reason now to not have it get a nice livespan out of it----that is the goal. Any defects would show after 5 days. From there on out I think now I can hopefully conclude its all in the hands of the user-------Sun
  13. kinabaloo

    kinabaloo Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    My point is also that the manufacturer can't tell the lifespan at the time of testing, only that it works.

    The only thing that could be done is a stress test that pre-blows the weaker ones, but that would weaken all. It's what they do with lightbulbs.

    Even the brand with lifetime guarantee - same pattern even though they would definetely benefit from producing a robust version. Until there is a new design that is more robust the problem will remain because the heating element is so delicate, and there's no easy way around it - as can be seen by the fact that there is still no other design on the table.

    I think everyone should dismantle one to its 10 or so parts - it's a real eye-opener.

    Having said all that, I am interested to find out by poll which models perform best and live longest.
  14. trog100

    trog100 Moved On ECF Veteran

    May 23, 2008
    its a shame this place is so full of speculative nonsense..

    of course they know how long the things last on average.. they simply dont want to say...

    the history of this place is strange.. a year ago folks didnt know.. then some acquired reasonable knowledge and passed it...

    now all those people with knowledge have gone and this place is full of speculative nonsense and misinformation again..

    some knowledge.. atomizers seem to be good for around 5000 puffs or vapourizing around 25 ml of liquid.. after that they turn into pretty useless items..

    they are not like light bulbs and simply stop working.. they.. in equivalent terms simply get dimmer and dimmer until they become pretty useless.. the point they get thrown away is up to the user..

    except for light occasional use.. e cigs should be treated as semi disposable items and not expected to last long because they will not.. spares should be obtained in advance..

    some simple facts which will quickly disappear off the front page and into the archives.. the speculative nonsense will continue.. which is why the people with knowledge have left.. its a waste of time trying to pass it on..

  15. Walrus

    Walrus Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 3, 2009
    Baton Rouge, LA
    Exactly... I understood that going into this. I simply consider the cost of new atomizers (and batteries, to a certain extent) as the equivalent of buying new packs of cigarettes, and I'm content (if not happy) when an atomizer lasts as long as 2-3 packs. Of course, when it comes to my e-cigar, I want it to last as long as 4-5 packs... but that's cause that atomizer costs $22-$25 dollars.

    In the case of one of my atomizers lasting 3 weeks, I was ecstatic.
  16. Lorddrek

    Lorddrek Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 6, 2009
    What a sad statement. Even worse coming from a "Manufacturer".

    I guess I should have been much more clear when starting this thread.

    I am not interested in working atomizers that have been shelved for a year. Only ones used from start to finish. Or from start to present.

    My reason for asking was to try and figure out what atomizer would be best to use for a homebrew vaporizer. After reading the replies I still am no closer to an answer. What I did gather is all of them is that no atomizer stands above the pack.

    I will choose the M401 because that is what I currently use and have had no problems. Cleaning with phosphoric acid seems to help keep these things alive.
  17. e-pipeman

    e-pipeman Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    Oct 16, 2008
    Brown Edge, England
    Hi Lorddrek,

    My longest lasting atomisers date from Oct last year, and are from the original Intellicig (DSE-103 type). They are used on a USB passthrough plugged into a usb battery. Because they run "warm" they just keep going and don't die.
  18. Lorddrek

    Lorddrek Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 6, 2009
    So from this I gather that the DSE-103 can last longer because of higher temps keeping the atomizer clean. keeping buildup off the filament might be the answer to longevity.
  19. cosican

    cosican Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 14, 2009
    MY new best friend,
    first I own your SD and needless to say, great piece of work, thank you and many of us look forward to your NEXT product

    I have been vaping for a while, I have been on this site for maybe a month and the difference in that month alone, is quite a disappointment
    I am confident that the original intentions for this site, was to inform, educate and make a pal or two and bring the vaping community together as one, so if we needed to fight the MAN, we could do so in numbers

    Although, just over the last few short weeks, the tone and tempermant has become, at times, angry, inmature, filled with silly uninformed speculation and someimes, just MEAN

    I started to post more than I have in the past, to attempt to bring a touch of humor, always a positive tone and pull as much information out. so I could build my stable of products, hoard as much juice as I can and keep quite
    Your past few comments, are exactly how I feel and the enjoyment factor, seems to slide, we need to reinstate the original purpose and tone, that you and others, so bravely broght to light
  20. Sun Vaporer

    Sun Vaporer Moved On ECF Veteran

    Jan 2, 2009
    Lorddrek--to the contrary a hotter running atomizer cooks the e-liquid and causes a faster residual build up on the coil. A good example of the is the penstyle 4 hole RN4072 which has an extemely high burn rate. Its coil builds up residual e-liquid much quicker than its counterpart 801 and in turn has a shorter life expetency. IMO and upon visual inspection of many of these atomizers disassembled, a higher burn rate, absent a viable cleaning method of the residue causes a shorter lifespan of the atomizer--Sun
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