Looking for a cheat sheet.

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zarina

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I am not normally the cheat sheet kind but I am trying to venture into the world of cartomizers and I really don't have the extra money to spend blowing up special batteries with bad chargers that I bought to go with certain cartomizers and on top of that I am not sure even what goes with what.

I have a simple Joye 510 and 510 mega. The only thing I have ever modded, was to go to blue foam.I am trying to read and understand but when people start talking voltage, mAHs, thread types, adapters and the like I am becoming increasingly confused. I just want a good battery, that goes with a good cartomizer, (I was looking at a dual coil smoketek or Boge), and maybe another cartomizer that goes with my mega 510. I get the impression that the uber dual coils do not work with the normal mega batteries.

I hate to ask this, and I swear I would write the cheat sheet myself if I understood any of this well enough to do so... :confused:

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Low resistence attys/cartos won't work with your regular 510 and I'm pretty sure dual coils also will not work. And even if they did, they reduce the amount of time a battery can hold a charge so with that small battery you are using, you would only get about 15 minutes on a charge.

Your options would greatly increase if you moved to a better battery PV. For a beginner, I use to recommend the eGo or RIVA which still perform well for a 3.7 volt PV. But for as good or better performance, but with MUCH less expensive batteries, I would check out the E-Power. You pay $4 for batteries instead of $12-$20 for batteries and the batteries can be charged at least 5 times more than the more expensive batteries.

Plus you will get about 5 hours on a charge and be able to use LR and dual coil attys/cartos.

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Well, I can try and explain it as best I can.

mAh: The capacity of a battery. This is how long it will last based on the amount of power that is drawn by whatever is attached to it. Don't worry too much about specifics, just know that higher means longer life. The one important thing you have to know is that trying to attach something that draws a lot of power (like dual coil cartomizers) to a small battery (like the 510) is not a good idea. Those need something beefier like eGo batteries.

Resistance: This is the amount of power that the atomizer or cartomizer allows to pass through at once. Without getting too complicated, the less resistance there is in a carto or atty, the more freely electricity can flow through it, and the hotter the carto or atty can get as a result. Think of resistance like the mouth of a bottle you're trying to fill with liquid. Lower resistance is a wider mouth that allows more liquid in.

Voltage: This is the amount of power a battery can put out, measured in volts. Continuing with the bottle filling analogy, voltage is the faucet in this pairing. In general, with fixed voltage PVs like the 510 and eGo, they can only put out so much current -- or water -- at once. How much gets into the bottle depends on the size of the bottle's mouth -- resistance of the atty or carto attached to it. With high, variable or multi-voltage devices, dialing up the voltage is like being able to increase the amount of water that comes out of the faucet that can push its way into the mouth of the bottle.

That's an oversimplification, mind you, there's more to it than that if you want to get into how resistance and voltage factors into amperage and wattage, but the analogy is more or less as basic as you're going to get and serves to give you the essentials about what the difference is and how it works.

For a 510 setup, I wouldn't recommend anything lower than maybe 2.4 or 2.2ohms. You can use 2.0, but it's going to drain your battery faster and may reduce its overall lifespan a little bit. I've used a 1.7ohm carto on a 510 successfully, but I didn't get a whole lot of battery life out it. If you want to keep things simple, an eGo-type setup (Riva, Gogo, etc.) with a low resistance cartomizer is about as simple as it gets.
 

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In general, speaking of the more standard range of ecig voltages 3.2 to 3.7 (510, KR808D-1, Ego, Riva 510, 3.7 box mods etc)

Cartomizers and atomizers under 2.5ohms are only supposed to be used on batteries that are 450mah or larger

That means you could use Boge standard resistance cartomizers (2.8-3.2). If you could find them, you could use the Boge 2.5ohm cartos but they will use your charge up faster. Ditto for the dual coil 2.5 ohm ones. You should not use the Boge LR 2.0 nor the dual coil 1.5 ohm cartos.

On a fat battery model like Ego or Riva 510 you can definitely use 2 ohm stuff, some people will go down to 1.7 for some cisco attys. Some will go down to 1.5 for the 1.5 dual coils but other say those should only be used on mods with removable industrial batteries.

Mods - you will see you batteries every time you charge them - the come out the way a flashlight's batteries come out. You'll have spares. Use protected batteries or AW IMRs and you can use the 1.5's or whatever you want. If a battery gets damaged you will see it.
 
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