Looking for a rec on a mod to use with genesis atty

[double_aa_ron]

The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards a mechanical mod. I appreciate the recommendation of the china gg. I'll give it a look. Though, I tend to like a heft to my mods, so the curves weight would probably be a plus for me.

Along those lines, my quality options seem to be the Super T, the pure smoker legacy and the curve. Can anyone make any other recommendations for a quality mechanical mod?


As a side note, I don't want a Silver Bullet or an Omega. My wife has a SB, and it's great, but I'd like something a little more slick looking. Something that would compliment my nice new AGA-T+.

There's also the x-haler line from nhaler. If you're really interested in the Curve let me know. I'll give you more impressions.

 

[jasl90]

If that is true than we should hypothetically run a 1.2 ohm @ 4.1 volts.... Without throwing codes.

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That is correct. If you really want to push it though... You can also run a 1.4 ohm @ 4.6 volts. It actually exceeds the 14.5 watt limit but it works because the ProVari works off of some strange formula (amps * watts) <= 50... Yes, the formula came straight from ProVape.

Only issue with either scenario, any dip in resistance during the vape and hello "E2".

 

[jharres]

There's also the x-haler line from nhaler. If you're really interested in the Curve let me know. I'll give you more impressions.

I'm not a huge fan of the style of the X-Haler, I'm looking for something a little more sleek looking. I am interested in the Curve though.

My list as it stands now is;

1) Super T
2) Legacy
3) Curve

Though, it looks like the Precise+ in the 18650 size is out of stock and the ELA is on a 6-8 week wait from time of order. As my current PV is starting to flake out, I don't think I can wait on the Super T... So yeah, tell me about the Curve.

 

[double_aa_ron]

Okay, then the good first. It's super solid. I'm pretty sure this thing will outlive me. The threads are silky smooth and the fire button is very nice. I have never felt a button feel as smooth and easy to press as this one. Over all the machining is top notch. I can't stress enough how well this thing is put together.

Now for the bad. It's heavy. Uncomfortably heavy Imo. After extended use my thumb and four finger ache a little. Also, the button has a pretty sharp edge to it. With the weigh of the device pressing on your pinky that edge starts to dig in a little. It won't actually cut you, but it is uncomfortable.

Also, I hate using it with genesis devices. With a gennie you can't set your PV on its side or it'll leak. With that in mind, you'll want to set your device upright. With the weight of this device and the low tension of the spring for fire button, you must lock it every time you set it down. Otherwise it will fire.

Out of all my PV's it is probably the most well made, but also the least used. I keep it because I do like to use it every once in a while and because it'll probably last forever. It's also the classiest device I have.

Oh and it would be great for self defence. Someone attacks you, just pull out the Curve and wacky him over the head. One hit and it's over. Would probably kill him.

 

[Stephenst4470]

I've purchased some 28ga, 30ga and 32ga. I know the 28ga is typically used for making ultra low resistance coils, but I figured I would give it a shot with several wraps to see if it produces more vapor at a higher resistance.

The Aga-T2 is a pretty big gennie, i actually fit a 9/10 wrap of 28g in there, it had a ton of wick coverage and made loads of vapor but took a few hits to really get it trucking. I ended up going back to 30 because it heats a lot faster. 5 or 6 wraps seems to be the sweet spot there.

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[jharres]

Okay, then the good first. It's super solid. I'm pretty sure this thing will outlive me. The threads are silky smooth and the fire button is very nice. I have never felt a button feel as smooth and easy to press as this one. Over all the machining is top notch. I can't stress enough how well this thing is put together.

Now for the bad. It's heavy. Uncomfortably heavy Imo. After extended use my thumb and four finger ache a little. Also, the button has a pretty sharp edge to it. With the weigh of the device pressing on your pinky that edge starts to dig in a little. It won't actually cut you, but it is uncomfortable.

Also, I hate using it with genesis devices. With a gennie you can't set your PV on its side or it'll leak. With that in mind, you'll want to set your device upright. With the weight of this device and the low tension of the spring for fire button, you must lock it every time you set it down. Otherwise it will fire.

Out of all my PV's it is probably the most well made, but also the least used. I keep it because I do like to use it every once in a while and because it'll probably last forever. It's also the classiest device I have.

Oh and it would be great for self defence. Someone attacks you, just pull out the Curve and wacky him over the head. One hit and it's over. Would probably kill him.

Lol, nice one on the self defense thing. Thanks for the info. So in a nutshell, it's very well made, but not very practical, especially with an AGA-T+ on it?

 

[jharres]

The Aga-T2 is a pretty big gennie, i actually fit a 9/10 wrap of 28g in there, it had a ton of wick coverage and made loads of vapor but took a few hits to really get it trucking. I ended up going back to 30 because it heats a lot faster. 5 or 6 wraps seems to be the sweet spot there.

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Interesting you say that it is a pretty big gennie. Mine came in the mail yesterday and I was a little surprised about how small the working space is. I also ordered an igo-s for my wife and that thing is tiny! Of course, I have big ol' meaty hands, so maybe that is just my perspective on it. They are both certainly smaller than I expected, in terms of working space for the coils, etc...

 

[K-rad]

I'm not a huge fan of the style of the X-Haler, I'm looking for something a little more sleek looking. I am interested in the Curve though.

My list as it stands now is;

1) Super T
2) Legacy
3) Curve

Though, it looks like the Precise+ in the 18650 size is out of stock and the ELA is on a 6-8 week wait from time of order. As my current PV is starting to flake out, I don't think I can wait on the Super T... So yeah, tell me about the Curve.

if your interested, i so happen to have a mint two-tone 18650 up for sale with flat cap, i belive buzz has a polished version he would be willing to part with
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/sale-trade/390980-ca-fs-ft-precise-plus-18650-kicklet.html

 

[BuzzKilla]

LOL yeah, My P+18650 will be going for sale on the forums, i've just been too lazy to post it up....

 

[jasl90]

LOL yeah, My P+18650 will be going for sale on the forums, i've just been too lazy to post it up....

What $ are you looking for?

 

[jharres]

if your interested, i so happen to have a mint two-tone 18650 up for sale with flat cap, i belive buzz has a polished version he would be willing to part with
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/sale-trade/390980-ca-fs-ft-precise-plus-18650-kicklet.html

Thank you, but at $220, I think that is a bit more than I'm looking to spend right now. It is an absolutely beautiful mod though.

 

[Jeremy Evans]

I am by no means an expert in this and I am also in the process of trying to make this decision. In my own research I believe I read that the provari will not go above about 15w, on the 2.0 that is. Whether or not that is enough power for your RBA would depend on what ohm you choose to make your coil. If you build a 1.5 ohm coil for that aga and run it at 4.0v thats around 14.5w and should do just fine on a Provari. A mechanical mod will of course allow you to go lower due to the higher wattage output available.

I am still trying to decide between a kicked Legacy (which would allow me to remove the variability and to low ohm RBA's) and a Provari. Can't decide....

4.0v on a 1.5 is only 10.7w, I run that on my eVic with zero issues. I have run as low as 1.3 on the evic, to me the Provari is nice and sturdy but it is NOT VW which was something I was looking for, and like you OP I dont like a hot vape either and have yet to hit the limit of the eVIc on any of my setups this far. I paid 104 for the kit bc I didnt want to wait on the Coop to happen so I just bought it. You can find them cheaper

 

[BuzzKilla]

One thing you guys seem to leave out, genisis atties aren't hot at 1.3 ohms.... feels like a cool/full vape to me.
my understanding is because there is a large air chamber causing the vapour to cool down more by the time it get to your mouth.
For me the vape starts to gets hot once i get below 1.0 ohms.
oh... and i drill out all my tank air holes to 1.5mm, in case anyone is curious.

In reality a "hot vape" can differ greatly depending on the design and size of the Geni, you are using...
you really have to try it yourself to know where you want it, relying on other peoples numbers, is misleading because they may not run the EXACT same setup.

So keep that in mind, when searching for your atty/carto/tank/geni set-up.


I remember having a 2 min. coughing fit(felt like forever) at a vape meet.
The owner of the setup that i tried, said "yeah it's a bit harsh if you are not expecting it".
It was a voltage regulated bottom feeder with a carto...
The mod was pushing some ridiculous voltage, but it still didn't taste burnt....
to each their own.

 

[BuzzKilla]

That is correct. If you really want to push it though... You can also run a 1.4 ohm @ 4.6 volts. It actually exceeds the 14.5 watt limit but it works because the ProVari works off of some strange formula (amps * watts) <= 50... Yes, the formula came straight from ProVape.

Only issue with either scenario, any dip in resistance during the vape and hello "E2".

Decided to try a little experiment on my friends Provari v2.5...
i was able to fire up a 0.8ohm coil @ 3.2v on my ERA atty, which runs at 4A/12.8W
So i think the E2 errors are more concerned with wattage than the Amps, but i wouldnt feel comfortable running it at 4 amps for too long... dont wanna damage anything.
still weak sauce compared to my mechanical

 

[jasl90]

Decided to try a little experiment on my friends Provari v2.5...
i was able to fire up a 0.8ohm coil @ 3.2v which runs at 4A/12.8W
So i think the E2 errors are more concerned with wattage than the Amps, but i wouldnt feel comfortable running it at 4 amps for too long... dont wanna damage anything.
still weak sauce compared to my mechanical

Actually that was a question I had for Cecelia at ProVape, back when she had provided me me with the aforementioned info. She said she didn't have the answer but asked me to give it a try and report back the results. Of course... I forgot to get around to it...

To be honest, your question about the 0.8r at 3.1v being able to work, I do not know. All I know is a previous customer had emailed in about how he couldn't use a 1.4 ohm atty at 4.7 volts but he could use it at 4.6 volts (which was still over the 14.50 watt limit described in our comparison chart).

I would be curious to see if you could run a 0.8ohm atty at 3.1v, or if the amp limit is set into stone while the watt limit is a little more fluid.

Didn't try for 3.1 volts by any chance???

 

[tc1]

As long as you have an ohmmeter ... id suggest going with a mechanical mod.

The GG clones and Empire clones can both be found for under $40 and with a low ohm coil .... will blow your mind.

 

[BuzzKilla]

Didn't try for 3.1 volts by any chance???

2.9v, 3.0v, 3.1v, & 3.2v all fired fine on 0.8 ohm coil
worth noting that 3.3v fires when it wants to, before E2 error gets thrown.

you can apologies to K-Rad, for my theft and use of his Blue Provari V2.5....
I'll stick to running it off my mechanical

 

[jasl90]

Don't worry... I'll be there soon enough...

 

[BuzzKilla]

Tried many mechanicals, bought a few along the way, and now i have the holy grail of mechanicals

one day, you will find the perfect PV.

I still think the perfect tank is a few months away from even being thought of.

 

[K-rad]

2.9v, 3.0v, 3.1v, & 3.2v all fired fine on 0.8 ohm coil
worth noting that 3.3v fires when it wants to, before E2 error gets thrown.

you can apologies to K-Rad, for my theft and use of his Blue Provari V2.5....
I'll stick to running it off my mechanical

Yeah your welcome buzz, my provari is here to sort out any issues & errors you may have.....:thumbup: