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[Greg095]

I have been vaping now for 14 days, and have not had an analog in 11 days. I am currently using a Kanger Aerotank on a 1300maH OG Revolver (eGo Twist). After reading through this very informative forum, I am pretty sure I am no where near smart enough for everything there is to know about mods. What I am leaning towards is a Provari, and utilizing my same Aerotank. Hopefully someone can answer these questions for me.

1. Will the Provari and the Aerotank produce more vapor than my current set up?
2. Will it be better to rebuild my own (single) coils to use with the Provari, or should I just stick with the Kanger 2ohms (dual coils)?
3. If rebuilding coils is the way to go, what ohms should I aim for?


Thank you in advance for any information you guys and gals can provide.

 

[Ca Ike]

1 Provari will be great with the aerotank

2 Kanger changed their heads for the new aerotank mega and mini so you might want to try those first since they are usable for all the dual coil tanks. Try rewicking the stock heads with cotton though to start with.

3 If you rebuild stay in the 1.5-2.5 ohm range to start with and experiment from there. Below 1.5 and most regulated mods can't handle them.

 

[beckdg]

1 no
2 you'll need to find out for yourself. i suggest trying first with one or two heads while keeping backup stock heads around to vape when frustration sets in.
3 30Ga kanthal will work great. stick between 1.5 and 2.5Ω for best results.

 

[Kemosabe]

no it will not give you more vapor (there are other things to do to get more vapor*), but chances are, you will notice the increased quality of the vape itself.

you will know if you want to rebuild based on:
a) if youre satisfied with the stock coil vape or not
b) youd like to save money and not keep buying coil heads

keep note that if you do decide to rebuild, youll almost certainly end up getting a different atomizer that was specifically geared toward rebuilding. and if you DO get one of those, you can play around with coil and air hole configurations to get moar vapor.

 

[Greg095]

no it will not give you more vapor (there are other things to do to get more vapor*), but chances are, you will notice the increased quality of the vape itself.

you will know if you want to rebuild based on:
a) if youre satisfied with the stock coil vape or not
b) youd like to save money and not keep buying coil heads

keep note that if you do decide to rebuild, youll almost certainly end up getting a different atomizer that was specifically geared toward rebuilding. and if you DO get one of those, you can play around with coil and air hole configurations to get moar vapor.

What can I do to get bigger clouds, WITHOUT the risk of blowing myself up? I worry about the aspect of mechanicals. I don't really want clouds that look like the inside of a 1987 El Dorado after its been hot boxed outside of Senior Prom. Just something that produces a thicker vapor.

 

[Maestro]

More VG will produce more clouds. Order with higher VG or simply buy some USP grade Vegetable Glycerin at the drugstore and experiment with it. Vape it straight or mix it with your juices. Add a couple drops of water to thin it.

 

[wheelie]

Provari good except for price. MVP will do the same thing and much longer battery life.About 4X cheaper. Same head and buy a pack of lower ohms coils. 1.5 ohms or so. And a juice of 50/50.

Buy your self a good Kayfun rebuildable clone. Go to Lightning Vapes and buy some wire and wick. Walmart for organtic cotton, nail clippers and a pair of tweezers. You could be all setup with everything for same price as Provari. MVP will give you an ohms meter on it for rebuilding. Everything will be interchangeable.

You asked for honesty and that's what I give you. CHEERS!

 

[Ca Ike]

What can I do to get bigger clouds, WITHOUT the risk of blowing myself up? I worry about the aspect of mechanicals. I don't really want clouds that look like the inside of a 1987 El Dorado after its been hot boxed outside of Senior Prom. Just something that produces a thicker vapor.

Higher VG does help but more importantly is wicking performance to get more juice to the coil. A good way to start is to just re-wick some of your coils with cotton. Silica is great for durability but is on the bottom of wicking performance and how its twisted or braided can affect the capillary action it relies on. The better the wick performance, the more juice you get to the coil and the bigger clouds/flavor you will get.

 

[edyle]

I have been vaping now for 14 days, and have not had an analog in 11 days. I am currently using a Kanger Aerotank on a 1300maH OG Revolver (eGo Twist). After reading through this very informative forum, I am pretty sure I am no where near smart enough for everything there is to know about mods. What I am leaning towards is a Provari, and utilizing my same Aerotank. Hopefully someone can answer these questions for me.

1. Will the Provari and the Aerotank produce more vapor than my current set up?
2. Will it be better to rebuild my own (single) coils to use with the Provari, or should I just stick with the Kanger 2ohms (dual coils)?
3. If rebuilding coils is the way to go, what ohms should I aim for?


Thank you in advance for any information you guys and gals can provide.

1: Not really; maybe, because the Provari uses a bigger battery. It will last longer before recharge, and the provari will give a smoother vape too because it uses a good voltage regulator instead of a choppy signal.
2: Rebuild to:
(a) save on cost
(b) control your own and not be affected by manufacturer quality control and pricing.
3: Start at 2 ohm single coil.

Unless cost is not a problem, I'd look for an MVP2 instead of a provari for an initial purchase; after a few months of $saving$ you should see for yourself a justification for buying a provari.

 

[edyle]

What can I do to get bigger clouds, WITHOUT the risk of blowing myself up? I worry about the aspect of mechanicals. I don't really want clouds that look like the inside of a 1987 El Dorado after its been hot boxed outside of Senior Prom. Just something that produces a thicker vapor.

The aerotank with dual coils will most certainly give you big clouds.
Higher VG liquid gives more clouds.
More power gives more clouds - ( more likely to produce burnt taste too).

 

[Rat2chat2]

You have already received some great suggestions so I will just say congrats to you and welcome to ecf. Isn't it all so wonderful? You won't find a better group of people than around these threads. So much information and help, not to mention all the support. Good luck to you.

 

[Kemosabe]

What can I do to get bigger clouds, WITHOUT the risk of blowing myself up? I worry about the aspect of mechanicals. I don't really want clouds that look like the inside of a 1987 El Dorado after its been hot boxed outside of Senior Prom. Just something that produces a thicker vapor.

Aside from the advice you've gotten already, another way to blow some big clouds is to invest in a rda with at least a 5/64 hole, like a trident clone. Or drill one out if the rda you choose isn't that airy. Build a micro coil, wick it with cotton and boom. Your cloud volume will bring a smile to your face.
Prepare to lung hit it you don't already.
But I should warn you, getting into rebuildables is crazy addictive. You'll likely be spending a lot of time here and on youtube perfecting your builds, which isn't too hard compared to gennys for example. But it's certainly not like swapping coils on a replaceable coil system like a protank for example. Have fun with it!

Oh, and you don't need a mech to blow clouds. It's more about your build and the air flow than the device.

 

[Greg095]

Aside from the advice you've gotten already, another way to blow some big clouds is to invest in a rda with at least a 5/64 hole, like a trident clone. Or drill one out if the rda you choose isn't that airy. Build a micro coil, wick it with cotton and boom. Your cloud volume will bring a smile to your face.
Prepare to lung hit it you don't already.
But I should warn you, getting into rebuildables is crazy addictive. You'll likely be spending a lot of time here and on youtube perfecting your builds, which isn't too hard compared to gennys for example. But it's certainly not like swapping coils on a replaceable coil system like a protank for example. Have fun with it!

Oh, and you don't need a mech to blow clouds. It's more about your build and the air flow than the device.

What mod would you pair with a Trident or Nimbus RDA? I'm assuming a clone from FT would work fine? Something that runs a 18650 battery, like the Panzer Clone?

 

[Kemosabe]

What mod would you pair with a Trident or Nimbus RDA? I'm assuming a clone from FT would work fine? Something that runs a 18650 battery, like the Panzer Clone?

yep, the panzer clone would certainly work. i dont have one so i cant tell you any details about that one. however, i do know that the *black* panzer clone isnt a good choice because the 510 threads are coated black as well and that decreases power unnecessarily.

what i can personally recommend is the chi you clone https://www.fasttech.com/p/1438500
and the nemesis clone https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10005773/1448300-nemesis-style-mechanical-mod

but that silver panzer does look incredible. and the reviews are great, so if thats the one you like i think youd be very satisfied.

they both look great with either the trident or the nimbus. i have both of those clones and use them quite often. trident gets the most use.

 

[Greg095]

yep, the panzer clone would certainly work. i dont have one so i cant tell you any details about that one. however, i do know that the *black* panzer clone isnt a good choice because the 510 threads are coated black as well and that decreases power unnecessarily.

what i can personally recommend is the chi you clone https://www.fasttech.com/p/1438500
and the nemesis clone https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10005773/1448300-nemesis-style-mechanical-mod

but that silver panzer does look incredible. and the reviews are great, so if thats the one you like i think youd be very satisfied.

they both look great with either the trident or the nimbus. i have both of those clones and use them quite often. trident gets the most use.

OK, so now I am seriously looking at an the Nimbus RDA with the Panzer clone. I have been reading that the 28 gauge Kanthal is the best to go with, or should I be looking at a different gauge?

 

[Kemosabe]

OK, so now I am seriously looking at an the Nimbus RDA with the Panzer clone. I have been reading that the 28 gauge Kanthal is the best to go with, or should I be looking at a different gauge?

28 is great. Very versatile as you can go sub and also above 1 ohm with it. I get mine from Temco or lightning vapes. But- make sure you have good batteries. With 28g, you can make some low ohm coils.

What type of 18650s do you have or are you looking at? I recommend a 30 amp battery, like the sony line of VTCs. Even if you don't pull close to 30A, you might want to get close at some point and it's also great to have a nice buffer zone even if you don't.

If you're not aware of ohms law, learn up because you'll need that knowledge with mechs and rbas. Also learn how to not create a short circuit while building if you don't already know. It's rebuilding basics, not very difficult at all, but crucial nonetheless. You'll be up and running in no time.

Here you go:
http://www.ohmslawcalculator.com/ohms_law_calculator.php

Plug in 4.2 volts and your ohms (resistance), and this will give you the amps (current).
There's also phone/tablet apps for ohms law.