Looking for opinions so sound off. You know what opions are like... everyone has one LOL

[Doug_xx2]

You know I guess I am wondering something but first an introduction to how this vaping thing has gone for me.

I am a newbie. I don't hide it I don't apologize for it and maybe some will find what I am about to ask to be elementary but I want to know and don't have the patience to read the whole site.

I think I have progressed the curve pretty quickly (maybe not). Now on to the blah blah

I got an 1100 mah ego c twist with a protank 2.
I use my rebuildable ce4's for my every once in a while flavors.
I started with blu's like most but got sick of them and ordered my first twist kit from eBay in about a week or so.

I have to say that I am grateful that when I logged into the IRC chat here as a brand new member the folks there were more than happy to suggest equipment. Nobody suggested strapping on a 400 watt smoke machine lol (thankfully because I was so desperate to make this stop smoking thing work I might have done that). They said to get and ego battery and an evod tank because I was complaining about having to constantly refill my blu carts (yeah I was doing that before the first week was over (I still got 5 of my first ten carts unopened lol even though they work a lot better on the twists).

I also asked where to get real tobacco flavor and right away someone suggested that I go over to http://www.myvapejuice.com and check out their natural tobacco extract line which I did ( I fell in love with the first one I tried it was savage original).

I did a little reading and to be honest I have a lot more to do but I tend to read enough to get the basic knowledge and then play mad scientist to figure out the rest.

NOBODY said get a twist NOBODY said go spend hundreds of dollars on tank and battery mods to be kool like me and blow humongous clouds of vapor. I was offered solid advice

I expanded on that to find a good cheap alternative to my blu's that would actually keep me from craving cigarettes.

After that I got the fiddle bug about this like everything else and started buying all sorts of stuff to make juice until recently when I bought vg and pg in gallon jugs to last me till dooms day (my fiance didn't smoke but decided she liked to vape no nic juice to so you all know how that goes on a budget).

I want a variable voltage mod that I can replace the batteries in so when the batteries die for good I can get new ones easier. I haven't been able to justify spending the money yet as my ego's work well enough (I recently broke one and am thinking of using the guts to make something with replaceable batteries you can see whats inside it in my you tube video below where I tear it apart. I think it is informative for a first you tube video remember everyone thinking of buying an ego or some similar sealed battery your just buying batteries people so don't spend a million on them they will die eventually.



After buying a couple of twists to solve my battery problem I splurged and got a pro tank 2 which was a good investment in my opinion and that is when I ran into the unscrupulous vendor in the brick and mortar store that sold me a pro tank 2 and replacement coils for it that had leads soldered on and marked the tank up like 10 dollars (I could have gotten it on ebay for less than $15). Be careful where you buy coils because I found they lasted until I tried to clean em. The solder would melt breaking the circuit and they would stop working.

So I bought 32 gauge kanthal wire and wick and learned how to rebuild em. They seem to last for a LOOOONG time now.

I learned how to make my own juices about a month ago give or take and I have been doing this pretty regularly (I think I have only bought 30 ML or so of premade juice). My fiance and a friend I convinced to try an ecig like mine to stop smoking like em well enough.

Recently I have searched for better flavors than the savage original I have been vaping. It's not that I don't like it. I like very much (it's my favorite). It just gets boring sometimes vaping one flavor all day long and I want more.

So last weekend I just put in an order to tfa (more mad scientist time lol) hopefully I will find my new juice flavor.


I think you got the idea and more than you wanted to know about me and my life now So....


Here goes

I keep seeing these people talking about chasing clouds and I have seen some people say I go for flavor and not for clouds. The clouds come on their own.

I have seen some people say that they chase clouds to get a satisfying vape.

Some seem to find the clouds to be the whole point

Others say that their juice gets stronger with less nic when they are vaping for clouds.

Still others say they get a better throat hit vaping for clouds.

Even others say it's all in the vg pg ratio (BTW I am makin' 55pg/45vg not that you care).

Well I am HOOOOOOKED on nicotine and have been for 30 years.

I chain vape all day (well night as I live on the night shift). What the hay it's better than chain smoking like I used to.

I find myself vaping quite comfortably at 16-18 mg levels which I find some people saying is too high (I came down from 24 when I got the my protank and twist combo fired (it seemed to hit me a lot harder. I don't know why.).

I like a bit of a throat hit so I feel like I am getting something and I get a real nice hit with a 2.0-2.4 ohm coil in my pro tank (batteries seem to last longer around 2.4) with my twist turned all the way up.

Buuuut...

like anyone else I wouldn't mind getting better flavor and making my batteries last longer than what I am getting now and I would like to be satisfied with less nic than what I am currently going through to.

Sooo.... (after long winded intro)

If I go with something putting more watts through a lower ohm coil and get myself more clouds will I get those things??? I don't know.

I have heard nic cooks off at relatively low temps.
Do higher watts and lower ohms mean higher temps and does that waste more of my nic?

I would appreciate any input.

No I am not asking for anyone to suggest the latest and greatest super whomping fog bank producing fiddly gadget on the market just some solid technical info and personal experience. You know point me in the right direction.

Yes I will look up technical specs care info use cautions and I am sharp enough to figure a lot of it out on my own so just sound off if you feel like it I would love to hear it.

Thanks all
Doug_xx2

 

[Christopherja]

Difficult to discern what's going on here...let me have a crack at it.

You want more flavour, and less nicotine?

Generally, the lower the nic content, the more "inherent" flavour the juice will have (not always, but generally).
Secondly, a higher percentage PG juice will carry more flavour.
Lastly, changing your delivery device (from a PT to a higer-end RBA, like the popular Kayfun/Russian 91% or Taifun GT) will get you more flavour, especially as you can already coil and wick, and you can tailor your vaping experience to your own preference.

You also asked about a VV mod that uses "external" batteries - well, there are tons of those, and I won't suggest them here: have a look on the APV sub-forum of ECF for some help - or just start browsing some internet shops!

I don't know that I've even managed to accurately pick-out your questions...but hope this helps

 

[tj99959]

WOW, wall of text! Can you re-write that so that my finite pea brain can figure out what you said.

 

[Ryedan]

WOW, wall of text! Can you re-write that so that my finite pea brain can figure out what you said.

This ^^^.

Not trying to give you a hard time Doug, but you'll really get better feedback if you make it easier for people to read and understand your posts

 

[volume control]

I cant really get through that wall of text but if youre looking for something better than what you are using, a cartotank is likely the answer =) You can check out my blogs to the left of this post where I have walk throughs on filling/replacing/priming carto tanks to get an idea on how to use them. Another member here Baditude has far more info than I in his blogs as well. I personally recommend ibtanked for the tank itself, and Boge LR or Ikenvape LR laser drilled cartos as they tend to wick the juice the best in my experience. If youre trying to keep it on the cheap end my backup tank is an AGR and it gets the job done as well

 

[Doug_xx2]

Difficult to discern what's going on here...let me have a crack at it.

You want more flavour, and less nicotine?

Generally, the lower the nic content, the more "inherent" flavour the juice will have (not always, but generally).
Secondly, a higher percentage PG juice will carry more flavour.
Lastly, changing your delivery device (from a PT to a higer-end RBA, like the popular Kayfun/Russian 91% or Taifun GT) will get you more flavour, especially as you can already coil and wick, and you can tailor your vaping experience to your own preference.

You also asked about a VV mod that uses "external" batteries - well, there are tons of those, and I won't suggest them here: have a look on the APV sub-forum of ECF for some help - or just start browsing some internet shops!

I don't know that I've even managed to accurately pick-out your questions...but hope this helps

I want more flavor yes and I want to satisfy my nicotine addiction with less nicotine if that is possible.

 

[Doug_xx2]

WOW, wall of text! Can you re-write that so that my finite pea brain can figure out what you said.

Sorry about that I hope my edit makes it more readable I was feeling a bit manic last night

 

[Doug_xx2]

This ^^^.

Not trying to give you a hard time Doug, but you'll really get better feedback if you make it easier for people to read and understand your posts

Sorry about that I hope my edit makes it more readable I was feeling a bit manic last night

 

[Doug_xx2]

I cant really get through that wall of text but if youre looking for something better than what you are using, a cartotank is likely the answer =) You can check out my blogs to the left of this post where I have walk throughs on filling/replacing/priming carto tanks to get an idea on how to use them. Another member here Baditude has far more info than I in his blogs as well. I personally recommend ibtanked for the tank itself, and Boge LR or Ikenvape LR laser drilled cartos as they tend to wick the juice the best in my experience. If youre trying to keep it on the cheap end my backup tank is an AGR and it gets the job done as well

Sorry about that I hope my edit makes it more readable I was feeling a bit manic last night

 

[TheReign]

I had to re read that like 3 times and took me forever to finish reading LOL. Thats probably the most i've seen written in a looong time haha.

Very descriptive. An for the whole flavor chasing thing Drip tanks are the best thing to me since sliced bread. I got my KFun lite+ the a few days ago, built two coils and found my favorite one. Now it's like dripping a RDA except theres a tank that does it for you. Hands down best my juice has ever tasted, too this day. Haven't even picked up a clearo except for my Aerotank thats also rebuilt with cotton.

I mean It's not hard to do and you can get the hang of it, can be a pain in the rear every so often. But that was my vape changing experiance. kayfun lite+ and my nemesis. I threw it on my SVD and pumped out like 15 watts into it and man that was pretty amazing.

 

[Topacka]

More efficient atomizers produce more vapor. More vapor means more flavor more throat hit and more nicotine per hit. High vg is what people use to 'chase clouds', I prefer high pg (80% to 100%) for throat hit and flavor. (Pg is a better carrier of flavor and nicotine). I tend to vape at lower ohms (and higher watts, 25 - 30) so that I can get more flavor and can reduce the amount of nic in my juice.

 

[yellowrider]

protank 2 is a good atomizer. Twist is good but only half regulated, the voltage should drop with the battery.
You can rebuild protank 2 coils for very cheap and effectively with cotton. I would say try a 18650 VV/VW device and that should get you through your chain vaping for the day.
To reduce nicotine but keeping your throat hit at satisfactory is not that diffcult..
You can try RBA, as my experiences with SS mesh on a genesis unit has got me choking on 10mg.. Went down from 24mg pretty quick. This will require a mech mod for builds less then 1.5 ohms on most devices.
Using menthol flavorings well help a lot as well. Most people I know will actually like menthol even though they were not a menthol smoker.
I would say buy a few tobacco flavorings and try out some diy and really start benefiting and saving money. This was the only way for me to find my all day vape and now I mix 600+ ML per batch for my family at pennies on the dollar.
I would invest in a cheaper mech and nice vv/vw device along with some backups and a ton of batteries. I have probably 10 of everything..
Vamo, mvp, itaste v3, provari, for vv/vw
nemesis & chi you clones are good mech's for 20-30 bucks..

 

[Doug_xx2]

More efficient atomizers produce more vapor. More vapor means more flavor more throat hit and more nicotine per hit. High vg is what people use to 'chase clouds', I prefer high pg (80% to 100%) for throat hit and flavor. (Pg is a better carrier of flavor and nicotine). I tend to vape at lower ohms (and higher watts, 25 - 30) so that I can get more flavor and can reduce the amount of nic in my juice.

See there I knew this post wasn't a mistake learning stuff already
Thanks

 

[Doug_xx2]

protank 2 is a good atomizer. Twist is good but only half regulated, the voltage should drop with the battery.
You can rebuild protank 2 coils for very cheap and effectively with cotton. I would say try a 18650 VV/VW device and that should get you through your chain vaping for the day.
To reduce nicotine but keeping your throat hit at satisfactory is not that diffcult..
You can try RBA, as my experiences with SS mesh on a genesis unit has got me choking on 10mg.. Went down from 24mg pretty quick. This will require a mech mod for builds less then 1.5 ohms on most devices.
Using menthol flavorings well help a lot as well. Most people I know will actually like menthol even though they were not a menthol smoker.
I would say buy a few tobacco flavorings and try out some diy and really start benefiting and saving money. This was the only way for me to find my all day vape and now I mix 600+ ML per batch for my family at pennies on the dollar.
I would invest in a cheaper mech and nice vv/vw device along with some backups and a ton of batteries. I have probably 10 of everything..
Vamo, mvp, itaste v3, provari, for vv/vw
nemesis & chi you clones are good mech's for 20-30 bucks..

And again I learn something. awesome!

I am rebuilding my protank and ce4+/ce5+ coils already not using cotton though I am using twisted silica I was using twisted cotton for a flavor wick but it leaked too much.

Thanks alot!!!

 

[Doug_xx2]

I had to re read that like 3 times and took me forever to finish reading LOL. Thats probably the most i've seen written in a looong time haha.

Very descriptive. An for the whole flavor chasing thing Drip tanks are the best thing to me since sliced bread. I got my KFun lite+ the a few days ago, built two coils and found my favorite one. Now it's like dripping a RDA except theres a tank that does it for you. Hands down best my juice has ever tasted, too this day. Haven't even picked up a clearo except for my Aerotank thats also rebuilt with cotton.

I mean It's not hard to do and you can get the hang of it, can be a pain in the rear every so often. But that was my vape changing experiance. kayfun lite+ and my nemesis. I threw it on my SVD and pumped out like 15 watts into it and man that was pretty amazing.

You know I have seen the drippers and I know how they work but I don't know much about the drip tanks are they the same thing?

Thanks I gained some knowledge and that's never a bad thing

 

[MarkD77]

I believe Reign was saying that the kayfun lite is a tank that hits like a dripper. I'm still new around here, my first post outside the newbie forum actually. But I've heard all kinds of good things about those as well. I just ordered my first PT2, but daydream about working my way up to investing in a Kayfun. And like your fiance, I don't smoke, quit about 10 years ago, but started getting into all of this depth to vaping after looking into something to replace my wife's blu habit.

Um, but yeah, what others just said about vg/pg and stuff. From what I've watched on rebuild videos, making your own good coils (and often they seem to use organic cotton for wick) will allow you to turn up the output without burning up. So while I'm not sure I'd say you necessarily want "chasing clouds" to the extreme some take it, I've gathered that with better quality hardware comes more cloud AND flavor than what you'd get out of the same juice with a stock Kanger coil of similar resistance.

When I get my PT2, I plan on eventually getting the stuff I need to try and build my first micro coil for it, like this one demonstrated by Riptrippers.

 

[Doug_xx2]

protank 2 is a good atomizer. Twist is good but only half regulated, the voltage should drop with the battery.
You can rebuild protank 2 coils for very cheap and effectively with cotton. I would say try a 18650 VV/VW device and that should get you through your chain vaping for the day.
To reduce nicotine but keeping your throat hit at satisfactory is not that diffcult..
You can try RBA, as my experiences with SS mesh on a genesis unit has got me choking on 10mg.. Went down from 24mg pretty quick. This will require a mech mod for builds less then 1.5 ohms on most devices.
Using menthol flavorings well help a lot as well. Most people I know will actually like menthol even though they were not a menthol smoker.
I would say buy a few tobacco flavorings and try out some diy and really start benefiting and saving money. This was the only way for me to find my all day vape and now I mix 600+ ML per batch for my family at pennies on the dollar.
I would invest in a cheaper mech and nice vv/vw device along with some backups and a ton of batteries. I have probably 10 of everything..
Vamo, mvp, itaste v3, provari, for vv/vw
nemesis & chi you clones are good mech's for 20-30 bucks..

More efficient atomizers produce more vapor. More vapor means more flavor more throat hit and more nicotine per hit. High vg is what people use to 'chase clouds', I prefer high pg (80% to 100%) for throat hit and flavor. (Pg is a better carrier of flavor and nicotine). I tend to vape at lower ohms (and higher watts, 25 - 30) so that I can get more flavor and can reduce the amount of nic in my juice.

I got hold of some tfa bluberry flavoring and I made some juice and went with 15% flavoring and 3ml sweetener from Mt. baker in 65 pg /35 vg base at 18 mg/ml. I found that you were right about the flavor thing with the higher pg content.

I also tore apart one of the re-wrapped coils I've made and pulled out the 2mm silica flavor wick I was using and put half of it back in with a couple of cotton strands on top I twisted up from the ends of the qtips I have been using to clean my protank 2's chimney when it gurgles.

Blueberry heaven. The taste is great! and no gurgle yet

I didn't have to get a new device to do that I run my ego twist turned all the way up all the time anyway.
I did find that I was vaping a lot more juice in a shorter period of time though and getting too much nicotine because of it.

An equal amount of juice in the same period of time has about the same effect though.
I used more juice because of the absorption of the cotton and the fact I didn't want to put down that awesome tasting vape.

Thank you for the info
Doug_xx2

 

[Doug_xx2]

I believe Reign was saying that the kayfun lite is a tank that hits like a dripper. I'm still new around here, my first post outside the newbie forum actually. But I've heard all kinds of good things about those as well. I just ordered my first PT2, but daydream about working my way up to investing in a Kayfun. And like your fiance, I don't smoke, quit about 10 years ago, but started getting into all of this depth to vaping after looking into something to replace my wife's blu habit.

Um, but yeah, what others just said about vg/pg and stuff. From what I've watched on rebuild videos, making your own good coils (and often they seem to use organic cotton for wick) will allow you to turn up the output without burning up. So while I'm not sure I'd say you necessarily want "chasing clouds" to the extreme some take it, I've gathered that with better quality hardware comes more cloud AND flavor than what you'd get out of the same juice with a stock Kanger coil of similar resistance.

When I get my PT2, I plan on eventually getting the stuff I need to try and build my first micro coil for it, like this one demonstrated by Riptrippers.

I was a little confused. It's not the first time I have seen the term dripper tank though just never bothered to look it up yet.

BTW be careful not to hold the battery while shaking the juice into the top to determine actual fluid level (it pulls ego style batteries apart) and don't drop it on the mouth piece because it cracks the tank.

I don't believe that my twist will fire with micro coils on it. but when I get something with a little more umph to it I would like to try some of the stuff he does like the diamond wrap. I am currently doing a lot of review and research so I can make one of those vv vw box mods that I can replace the batteries in.

Thanks for the info
Doug_xx2

 

[edyle]

I would suggest you get a simple tube mode like a vamo v5 or zmax; perhaps an itaste svd, or smoktech sid.
All of these have VW which supercedes VV.

You sound like you might also be interested in this:

variable voltage usb mini passthrough. no battery required.
Unfortunately there don't seem to be any with VW ....... yet.

 

[alisa1970]

I'm not experienced on the rebuilding side of things, but I've been vaping at 12mg for about 3 months and was using a VV Spinner. In reading some juice reviews on juices I already had and liked, I noticed that the reviewer was raving at the flavor using 1.8-2.2 ohms at 8-10 watts.

Even if I turned my spinner all the way to 4.8V I was maybe getting 6-7 watts and burnt flavor.

So I decided to get an Itaste VV/VW so I could try my stock heads at higher wattage. What I discovered was that the flavor was very much improved, and then I started rewicking everything with cotton.

Now that I'm vaping more at 8-10 watts, even on a stock coil (1.7-2.4 ohms), I am finding that I will now be going down to 6mg nicotine as my 12 is making me jittery.

So I think that maybe the increased wattage and vapor production is a much more efficient nic delivery system, regardless of what you are using to get that higher wattage and vapor.