What's the big deal with sub ohm and cloud chasing?

[Tibbetts]

I don't get it. Perhaps because I'm fairly new and certainly do not know everything.

In my mind, vaping at high watts (25ish-30) would give you a very hot and burnt vape. That does not sound pleasant to me. Is it just to get huge clouds? I vape around 8-8.5watts on my MVP2 and it, to me, gives a fantastic vape. I'm not vaping for clouds, I want the flavor and the nic. So, my question here is:

What's the big deal? Does it give you a hot vape? I see videos about how the flavor is "AMAZING" at those levels. Does it burn your throat? I'd also not be too keen on charging so much, or lugging around spare batteries all the time. Wouldn't vaping that high just run through batteries like no tomorrow?

 

[supermarket]

I don't get it. Perhaps because I'm fairly new and certainly do not know everything.

In my mind, vaping at high watts (25ish-30) would give you a very hot and burnt vape. That does not sound pleasant to me. Is it just to get huge clouds? I vape around 8-8.5watts on my MVP2 and it, to me, gives a fantastic vape. I'm not vaping for clouds, I want the flavor and the nic. So, my question here is:

What's the big deal? Does it give you a hot vape? I see videos about how the flavor is "AMAZING" at those levels. Does it burn your throat? I'd also not be too keen on charging so much, or lugging around spare batteries all the time. Wouldn't vaping that high just run through batteries like no tomorrow?

I think with subohms, you can raise the wattage without getting the burnt taste? I don't know....it doesn't make sense to me either, because I always understood that wattage is determined by voltage and ohms....so whether you have .8ohms or 3ohms, I thought you'd essentially want the same wattage?

I use 7watts for delivery devices, sometimes 7.5 to up to 8, anything beyond that tastes burnt.

 

[Dusif]

I don't get it. Perhaps because I'm fairly new and certainly do not know everything.

In my mind, vaping at high watts (25ish-30) would give you a very hot and burnt vape. That does not sound pleasant to me. Is it just to get huge clouds? I vape around 8-8.5watts on my MVP2 and it, to me, gives a fantastic vape. I'm not vaping for clouds, I want the flavor and the nic. So, my question here is:

What's the big deal? Does it give you a hot vape? I see videos about how the flavor is "AMAZING" at those levels. Does it burn your throat? I'd also not be too keen on charging so much, or lugging around spare batteries all the time. Wouldn't vaping that high just run through batteries like no tomorrow?

I vape at around 50-80w depending on the coil and charge status, and my taste is clean and my vape is pretty cool... At this point its all about wicking and airflow... The wicking preventing the burnt taste and the airflow keeping it cool

But... A dryhit will almost make you mess yourself if you forget to drip... A classmate grabbed mine before i had a chance to drip and took a (as he says) manly drag... The poor guy almost needed a fresh pair of underwear and has since then refused to try it again despite other peoples encouragement


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[EddardinWinter]

I am a higher sub-ohm vaper at times.

I like to set up my dual coil at 0.7 ohms or so. I have found that wicking it properly is the key to avoiding the burned taste. If you wick the coil like you do a 9 watt setup, you certainly won't enjoy your juice flavor one bit! The multi-coil setup is the only way I have been happy with my flavor when delving into sub-ohm.

I am not chasing clouds.

 

[Bunnykiller]

what Im waiting for is for someone to puff up a cloud so immense it creates its own lightning

 

[DaveP]

I don't get it either. I'm vaping an Aspire Nautilus at 3.3v with a 1.6 ohm atty on 80pg/20vg juice. I get huge clouds of vapor with great flavor and just enough throat hit to match my taste. If I raise it to 3.7v I can obliterate my face with vapor in front of a mirror and still get good flavor.

1.6 ohms @ 3.3v = 6.8W


1.6 ohms @ 3.7v = 8.6W

If I raise it to 4.0v, the throat hit is more than I want, with still good flavor and a huge cloud of vapor.

That's 10 watts, but it's too much throat hit for me. Flavor is optimum at 3.3v - 3.7v and two 18650s last me all day and into the next morning.

 

[B1sh0p]

People that sub ohm are using drippers, not clearos or any of that other junk. Wicking isn't an issue.

 

[tj99959]

I don't even try to do sub ohm builds anymore, it just wasn't my thing. With my mechanical mods I'm perfectly happy with a 2 ohm build. Just understand that not all 2 ohm builds are created equal.

However IMO sub ohm did serve a purpose, and we learned a lot from folks experimenting with sub ohm. As a result we found that there are a lot of efficient ways to build coils. Micro coils rank as the product of the year for 2013 in my book.

So sub ohm vaping was just one step in the evelution of how we do things. Even the cloud chasers seem to be using higher resistance coils these days.

 

[EddardinWinter]

People that sub ohm are using drippers, not clearos or any of that other junk. Wicking isn't an issue.

Well they should be using drippers or the like. But even that doesn't guarantee that the wicks aren't an issue.

I bet more than a few have wrapped a 1/16" drill bit with some 28 guage K-wire and got about 0.6 ohms, fished a small strand of cotton through the middle of the coil, set it on their mechanical mod, and got a vile, burned taste. At that point the unfortunate vaper concluded that sub-ohm is a tasteless, worthless exercise.

Wanna know how I came up with this scenario? Because I made this exact mistake myself. It took me some time to realize what was wrong with my set up.

 

[440BB]

People that sub ohm are using drippers, not clearos or any of that other junk. Wicking isn't an issue.

I enjoy a lot of that other junk. I never realized it was junk until now.

 

[PhatRon]

I started getting into sub-ohm levels of vaping because I wanted to run my IGO-W in a dual coil mode without having to create two 3 ohm coils just to get an end result of 1.5 ohms. I am by no means a cloud chaser, I enjoy flavor more. Right now I have a single coil setup of a strand of 29 gauge kanthal and 32 gauge kanthal twisted together. I love the flavor I get off of this setup and it actually reads out to 1.2 ohms and produces a warm vape, not hot by any means. its pushing 14.7 watts on a freshly charged battery. I just couldn't get the taste with the PWM in some of my other mods and it would take forever for it to heat up.

 

[DaveP]

I have a couple of dripper attys that I used to test multiple juices. It's not often that I sit around and drip just to vape anymore. A couple of years ago I would do that while watching TV, but then I got into better tanks and went back to conventional vaping as a daily activity.

If I had to drip to vape, I'd do much less of it.

 

[edyle]

I don't get it. Perhaps because I'm fairly new and certainly do not know everything.

In my mind, vaping at high watts (25ish-30) would give you a very hot and burnt vape. That does not sound pleasant to me. Is it just to get huge clouds? I vape around 8-8.5watts on my MVP2 and it, to me, gives a fantastic vape. I'm not vaping for clouds, I want the flavor and the nic. So, my question here is:

What's the big deal? Does it give you a hot vape? I see videos about how the flavor is "AMAZING" at those levels. Does it burn your throat? I'd also not be too keen on charging so much, or lugging around spare batteries all the time. Wouldn't vaping that high just run through batteries like no tomorrow?

Your typical tank and battery setup isn't for high power vaping.

People using multiple coils on a rebuildable can run higher wattage.

 

[KenD]

Airflow plays a major role as well. By drilling out the air holes on my Evods I've been able to push them to 15w where only 8-9w was possible earlier. That's with having rebuilt the coil properly, and a lr coil (not subohm) on a vw device. But, clearos are not really suited for high wattage vaping. You need a good RBA or RDA for that, but the experience is totally worth the trouble. For me it's been as huge of a leap, possible even more, as switching from basic Egos to vv/vw devices.

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[stylezuk]

I run drippers constantly at about 0.6-0.9ohm it's not always about the clouds as the immense taste you get from high wattage vape, it does take a while to work out how your dripper reacts how much cotton is needed the build of micro and drops of juice without flooding is a fine line or the opposite the dreaded dry hit.

 

[alkaiser]

the airflow/coil positioning determines whether you get a cool or hot vape. your hit style (mouth or lung draws) also matter

i like switching off between mouth to lung and full lung draws so i like adjustable airflow.

i also vape 30+ watts. no burning since i have adequate airflow and wicking. my dripper and kayfun both have small chambers, and they push a ton of vapor (30+ watts whooooooo) into that small chamber so i can get a dense, concentrated vape full of flavor and throat hit.

edit: and since my coils heat up so fast, i only have to take a short drag (about a second) compared to taking 3-5 second drags to get the same thing with other setups)

if i want insane clouds, i can get it by taking off my airflow control cap and taking a deep lung hit

i have all the options i want in my setup, and it makes me happy

 

[B1sh0p]

I enjoy a lot of that other junk. I never realized it was junk until now.

Didn't mean to offend. The OP didn't realize that sub ohm vapers are using toppers that wick much more efficiently than a clearo.