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For sure. You seem as hip as anyone. If you do decide to build coils, this site is a godsend.

Kanthal wire is cheap and plentiful.
At the rate of lack of knowledge again, I had purchased a bottle of PG and VG both unflavored). I also had a menthol extract. I kept wondering where the nicotene came in and remembered hubby had a bottle of unflavored 24 mg juice. I was surprised at how well it turned out. I was doing the happy dance! Question is, should I purchase the PG with nicoten already in or can you purchase nicotene to add to the pg? Also, I'm trying to download the ejuice me up calculator. Is there a version for iPad?
 

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At the rate of lack of knowledge again, I had purchased a bottle of PG and VG both unflavored). I also had a menthol extract. I kept wondering where the nicotene came in and remembered hubby had a bottle of unflavored 24 mg juice. I was surprised at how well it turned out. I was doing the happy dance! Question is, should I purchase the PG with nicoten already in or can you purchase nicotene to add to the pg? Also, I'm trying to download the ejuice me up calculator. Is there a version for iPad?

e-Liquid Calculator :: New recipe - e-Liquid Recipes should work on the iPad.

You can buy nicotine in PG or VG in a number of different strengths.

Myfreedomsmokes had the best price last time I looked.
 
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Cloupor mini plus with TFV4 tank.
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The TFV4 full kit comes with the rba deck(rebuildable) for single coil. It also has the option of using a half a dozen or so coil heads.
$26.48 Authentic Smoktech SMOK TFV4 Mini Sub Ohm Tank Clearomizer Kit - 3.5ml / stainless steel + glass at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

The Cloupor Mini Plus is a 50w single 18650 regulated mod. Can be used in Watt mode and it has TC (temperature control) option.
$36.64 Authentic Cloupor Mini Plus 50W TC Temperature Control VW Variable Wattage APV Box Mod - 1*18650 / stainless steel at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
 
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At the rate of lack of knowledge again, I had purchased a bottle of PG and VG both unflavored). I also had a menthol extract. I kept wondering where the nicotene came in and remembered hubby had a bottle of unflavored 24 mg juice. I was surprised at how well it turned out. I was doing the happy dance! Question is, should I purchase the PG with nicoten already in or can you purchase nicotene to add to the pg? Also, I'm trying to download the ejuice me up calculator. Is there a version for iPad?
Wholesale Unflavored Liquid Nicotine
You can order nicotine in either pg or vg or you can get it mixed 50/50 :)
 
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Cloupor mini plus with TFV4 tank. View attachment 530914
The TFV4 full kit comes with the rba deck(rebuildable) for single coil. It also has the option of using a half a dozen or so coil heads.
$26.48 Authentic Smoktech SMOK TFV4 Mini Sub Ohm Tank Clearomizer Kit - 3.5ml / stainless steel + glass at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

The Cloupor Mini Plus is a 50w single 18650 regulated mod. Can be used in Watt mode and it has TC (temperature control) option.
$36.64 Authentic Cloupor Mini Plus 50W TC Temperature Control VW Variable Wattage APV Box Mod - 1*18650 / stainless steel at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
That is pretty awesome looking!
 
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Great resource MV. Elegant. Simple. All the essentials.

Good luck.

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Another question (since you have been so helpful). I have a bottle of both PG and VG with 0 nicotene. I normally vape 18 mg. What strength nicotine should I order? Also, I see that some PG and VG come with nicotene. My preference as far as ratios on juice I have purchased has been 80/pg 20/vg or at times 50/50. Are there different ways of doing this? If I interpreted what I read correctly, I can buy the base which would contain of pg and VG, eliminating the need to buy them separately? Is that correct? If so, does this include the nic too? Thanks so much!
 

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Another question (since you have been so helpful). I have a bottle of both PG and VG with 0 nicotene. I normally vape 18 mg. What strength nicotine should I order? Also, I see that some PG and VG come with nicotene. My preference as far as ratios on juice I have purchased has been 80/pg 20/vg or at times 50/50. Are there different ways of doing this? If I interpreted what I read correctly, I can buy the base which would contain of pg and VG, eliminating the need to buy them separately? Is that correct? If so, does this include the nic too? Thanks so much!

Be prepared to buy some VG/PG and nic base in small amounts for trial, say 36 mg/ml (me 100mg), a liter of VG and 4oz PG. They'll all be useful. Mix flavorings separately and your nic base according to your target, e.g. 12mg vs 18mg. One thing about DIY is it will give you the convenient opportunity to start bringing the nic down after 3 years. Trust me, you don't need it. Although I enjoy a bit after 3 years myself. Nic base is easily targeted by proration. For example 2 parts PG or VG to 1 part 36mg nic will bet you a 12mg target or at 5:6, 15mg. To avoid confusion, 18 mg/ml is equivalent to the designation 1.8% nic typically noted on labelled juices.

Start slowly at graduating downwards on nic level if you're really stable at 1.8%. Folks sometimes experience a kick back when dropping too suddenly. You may have resistant thresholds too. Consider targets of .2-.3 downwards. Stay there a week or more or until comfortable there. You can keep some standby juice in another device for urges at your old or higher nic level (if find you stepped down too suddenly).

Started experiencing a sensitivity to PG a few weeks in. Isolated that it wasn't erratic coil/device performance (dry burns, shorts) or nic level itself. Didn't immediately suspect PG. Took some time, more than a year, to slowly get used to higher PG levels in juices. Why I've pretty much been DIY from the jump and modifying purchased juices. Still some irritation these days if level or use goes high but impressed with what I can now handle. I usually try to mix max VG recipes wherever possible and find very little basis of the criticisms for doing so. Some of my very best results have been 100% VG yet also the most complex recipe at 70/30 VG/PG. Flavorings are mostly at least part PG these days so I'm not avoiding the richness of nuance for concerns about PG. It's just not essential to a good flavorful vape or production. Consequently, I use exclusively VG based nic knowing there will always be PG component. The juice calculator above allows you to punch in the relative % nic used as well as designate whether a flavoring is PG or VG based. So you'll have a fairly tight handle on the proportion.

Pick a simple flavor profile you really like and are familiar with like a fruit, say strawberry, and a basic recipe. At least enough nic to do several 30ml variations. Start with smaller batches and use the 100 drop method (1 drop=1%). You can split 30's up into separate batches if you get a comparison idea. I often have several batch samples running on different devices. Put all those clearos to use! :D

A few ideas. Hope these help.

Good luck K. :)
 
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For a starter and something so simple, the Innokin T18 gave me a WOW. I'd heard the flavor factor was great with this one ... but ... WOW. There's even no voltage to adjust. The voltage output is regulated at 14 watts throughout the battery usage, so it's a small step up from a mechanical and the 14 watts is just right for the 1.5 ohm coil that runs the length of the tank. Good battery life, good coil life, great flavor, grab and go ... does it for me ... and I have tanks and mods with all the bells and whistles. Oh, the T18 is strictly mouth to lung though.

... and !!! Roll Tide Roll !!!
 
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For a starter and something so simple, the Innokin T18 gave me a WOW. I'd heard the flavor factor was great with this one ... but ... WOW. There's even no voltage to adjust. The voltage output is regulated at 14 watts throughout the battery usage, so it's a small step up from a mechanical and the 14 watts is just right for the 1.5 ohm coil that runs the length of the tank. Good battery life, good coil life, great flavor, grab and go ... does it for me ... and I have tanks and mods with all the bells and whistles. Oh, the T18 is strictly mouth to lung though.

... and !!! Roll Tide Roll !!!
Isnt isn't that imazing that you got that effect without adjusting the voltage? Thanks for the response! Going to check it out! Glad to see a Bama fan! ROLL TIDE!
 
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Be prepared to buy some VG/PG and nic base in small amounts for trial, say 36 mg/ml (me 100mg), a liter of VG and 4oz PG. They'll all be useful. Mix flavorings separately and your nic base according to your target, e.g. 12mg vs 18mg. One thing about DIY is it will give you the convenient opportunity to start bringing the nic down after 3 years. Trust me, you don't need it. Although I enjoy a bit after 3 years myself. Nic base is easily targeted by proration. For example 2 parts PG or VG to 1 part 36mg nic will bet you a 12mg target or at 5:6, 15mg. To avoid confusion, 18 mg/ml is equivalent to the designation 1.8% nic typically noted on labelled juices.

Start slowly at graduating downwards on nic level if you're really stable at 1.8%. Folks sometimes experience a kick back when dropping too suddenly. You may have resistant thresholds too. Consider targets of .2-.3 downwards. Stay there a week or more or until comfortable there. You can keep some standby juice in another device for urges at your old or higher nic level (if find you stepped down too suddenly).

Started experiencing a sensitivity to PG a few weeks in. Isolated that it wasn't erratic coil/device performance (dry burns, shorts) or nic level itself. Didn't immediately suspect PG. Took some time, more than a year, to slowly get used to higher PG levels in juices. Why I've pretty much been DIY from the jump and modifying purchased juices. Still some irritation these days if level or use goes high but impressed with what I can now handle. I usually try to mix max VG recipes wherever possible and find very little basis of the criticisms for doing so. Some of my very best results have been 100% VG yet also the most complex recipe at 70/30 VG/PG. Flavorings are mostly at least part PG these days so I'm not avoiding the richness of nuance for concerns about PG. It's just not essential to a good flavorful vape or production. Consequently, I use exclusively VG based nic knowing there will always be PG component. The juice calculator above allows you to punch in the relative % nic used as well as designate whether a flavoring is PG or VG based. So you'll have a fairly tight handle on the proportion.

Pick a simple flavor profile you really like and are familiar with like a fruit, say strawberry, and a basic recipe. At least enough nic to do several 30ml variations. Start with smaller batches and use the 100 drop method (1 drop=1%). You can split 30's up into separate batches if you get a comparison idea. I often have several batch samples running on different devices. Put all those clearos to use! :D

A few ideas. Hope these help.

Good luck K. :)
I knew I should have paid more attention in Algebra! Who would have thought we would be using those calculations DIY! Thanks again for your help and thank goodness for DIY calculators. I'm sure I will be referencing this post again?
 
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