Looking to get the noisy cricket mod, few questions

[DiscoRanger]

So I'm looking into get the noisy cricket mod, but I was wondering about the battery life, and few things, so if I were to build with 30 Guage and make a .9 ohm build, would the battery life be just as long as a .2 build on a parrelel setup? Or would the series last just as long as a single battery? I researched series setups and know how to build and how to be safe, I'm just incredibly confused on the battery life aspect, also I put a 6 wrap 24 build in my rda and it got much better flavor than an 8 wrap 24 Guage. So I thought more wraps = more flavor? If I were to build with 32 Guage and wrap the coil the same length and size as a 6 wrap 24 gauge coil, which would produce better flavor? (Ruling out which kind of juice you are using). Because the 32 has more crevices, does it mean more juice can get to the wick? And since since the noisy cricket is a hybrid, i would have to build even higher right? I would also appreciate who does use series, and could tell me your prefered guage and build, are claptons good in series? Sorry I'm just rambling now but those were my questions, thanks for reading!

 

[DiscoRanger]

Oh also I'm getting the indestructible\cricket setup, forgot to mention

 

[pdib]

So, basically, two batteries in series just have the same mAh as a single battery. So you're not doubling the mAh like you would in parallel . . . . But you're using them differently (in doubling the voltage). You're going to build your coils at a higher resistance to compensate for the doubled voltage.

Like, I'll vape a single battery (and I'll just use nominal 4.2V and not account for voltage drop or battery sag) at, say, .2Ω . .. .

4.2V @ .2Ω, I'm drawing 21 Amps* and hitting 88W (imaginary . .. . in a world without friction)

to get a similar vape in series

88W @ 8.4V is gonna be a .8Ω coil, and I'm only drawing 10.5 Amps.

So, I'm drawing the energy from the batteries at 1/2 the rate. So, they're going to drain ~ 1/2 as fast.

right?

Or look at it this way, whether you pair batteries in parallel or series, you're doubling the amount of stored energy at your disposal. Given the same work load (Watts), you'll get twice as much work done with double the stored energy.

or so I figure.



*on a LGHB6, true 30A battery . . .not just advertised, rumored, labeled as . . . but tested

 

[pdib]

Flavor and wire mass aren't a 1:1 thing. You need to balance wire mass (how many wraps of 24g, in your question) with how effectively your power source can heat that wire. IF your power source can handle the larger wire mass easily, you would get more flavor because you're heating a greater surface area and vaporizing more flavor-thingies. But you want to get it hot enough, and fast enough to produce good vapor when you hit the button. If you put too many wraps of 24g into a single coil, it just won't get warm enough to vaporize enough flavor-thingies. This is when you split your coils (duals, quads) and lower your resistance (instead of increasing it with more wraps) . . . as long as your battery can handle the lower resistance.

More crevices: yeah, it seems like more surface area, crevices, topography in a coil is going to produce more flavor. But you'll want to match resistance to get a ~equivalent vape with different wires. So, using a higher gauge: instead of adding wraps to achieve "same length" (as your 24 in your question), you'll want to add "layers" . .. . multiple strands of 30 gauge, making, say a three-wire parallel/triple coil.

And since since the noisy cricket is a hybrid, i would have to build even higher right?

it's not a true hybrid. please be careful to use only atties with the +pin of the atty 510 sticking out good and proud of the surrounding negative threads. and check your battery's nose every time you swap, to make sure you aren't dimpling it when you screw your atty on there. don' blow your face off. The idea of a pseudo-hybrid mod giving you more power is a bit over-hyped, in my humble. I wouldn't up the resistance of my build over it. It'll hit a little harder when you first vape it because you've got a freshly built, clean atty on a brand new mod (clean).

 

[DiscoRanger]

Thank you! That helps a ton! I might not go with the noisy cricket after all haha

 

[Hans Wermhat]

Flavor and wire mass aren't a 1:1 thing. You need to balance wire mass (how many wraps of 24g, in your question) with how effectively your power source can heat that wire.

Yep, but airflow plays into it as well. You can do identical builds on 2 different attys and fire them on the same mod at the same wattage and get different results. The more air flow you have, the hotter your build can be since airflow across the coils cools them while you puff. In a regulated mod, you can adjust the watts/volts to compensate, but in a mechanical/unregulated set up you have to build your coils differently to change the vape. I tend to like Nichrome wire for mechs. It has lower resistance and heats faster than Kanthal and is a lil easier on the batteries since you don't have to hold the button as long per puff. It also cools faster when you let off the button so you don't waste as much juice between puffs.

+1 on parallel builds.

 

[bigrf85]

i have the noisy cricket and i throw my velocity on it with a .5 ohm build and can use it about 6-8 hrs before charging/changing batteries havnt built higher than that but hope this helps

the cricket is a great mod in my opinion

 

[Marc411]

If you decide to go with it just make sure that the 510 pin is the only thing making contact with the battery. It has to extend out far enough so that the threaded portion of the 510 does not touch the battery.

 

[Boden]

So I'm looking into get the noisy cricket mod, but I was wondering about the battery life, and few things, so if I were to build with 30 Guage and make a .9 ohm build, would the battery life be just as long as a .2 build on a parrelel setup? Or would the series last just as long as a single battery? I researched series setups and know how to build and how to be safe, I'm just incredibly confused on the battery life aspect, also I put a 6 wrap 24 build in my rda and it got much better flavor than an 8 wrap 24 Guage. So I thought more wraps = more flavor? If I were to build with 32 Guage and wrap the coil the same length and size as a 6 wrap 24 gauge coil, which would produce better flavor? (Ruling out which kind of juice you are using). Because the 32 has more crevices, does it mean more juice can get to the wick? And since since the noisy cricket is a hybrid, i would have to build even higher right? I would also appreciate who does use series, and could tell me your prefered guage and build, are claptons good in series? Sorry I'm just rambling now but those were my questions, thanks for reading!

About battery drain

Just calculate watts

Using say 4V per cell, 0.2 on a parellel mod os 80W. 0.9 on a series mod is 71W.

71 is less than 80 so the 0.9 on series would last longer.

 

[Flt Simulation]

"Noisy Cricket" ....

Does it have that 'rattlesnake' sound when you fire it?

Noisy?

 

[Bad Ninja]

"Noisy Cricket" ....

Does it have that 'rattlesnake' sound when you fire it?

Noisy?

Lol.
It's fully mechanical so that's a no.

 

[sacullen]

Personally, I wouldn't be using 30 or 32ga wire in a series setup. Steam Engine is throwing numbers that don't look like enjoyable vapes.

 

[Hans Wermhat]

Yup. I don't use anything smaller than 28G, but a 2 strand parallel 3mm ID 8 wrap coil is about .6 ohms and is good at 35W. It's a lil weak on a single battery mech, only 30W. A series mod would throw 100W+ at that with a full charge. Series mechs are really designed for larger wire since you can't lower the output below battery voltage.

 

[Boden]

Personally, I wouldn't be using 30 or 32ga wire in a series setup. Steam Engine is throwing numbers that don't look like enjoyable vapes.

A challenge... I accept

 

[Boden]

Man, that wasn't a challenge...

Dual parellel 30g, 13 wrap, 3mm ID

Coil wrapping | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

 

[pdib]

"Noisy Cricket" ....

Does it have that 'rattlesnake' sound when you fire it?

Noisy?

there's a "see-saw" contact in the bottom of the mod. It's designed to equalize contact pressure if/when you tighten your caps/batteries down to different degrees. When the mod is empty, it rattles with a tinny, chirpy sound. So, I'm guessing . .. .

 

[nostradadus]

"Noisy Cricket" ....

Does it have that 'rattlesnake' sound when you fire it?

Noisy?

The name originated from the movie "Men in Black".

 

[nostradadus]

I build three different setups last night, from .5 to 1.5 ohm builds.....have to say, probably gonna hang out with the 1.5ohm build for a while. The power output to the coil with this mod is crazy fast; 1 to 3 second pulls is about all your gonna get with this mod before you have to say "whoa!".