Loong Totem V9
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Whiel you're waiting, how bout soem more vape videos? Never can have enough videos 
Show hte vapor on a fixed video and closer to mouth but at angle from slightly behind with video angle close to light source like window- start hte vapor a foot or so showing it agaisnt a wall, then moving into hte light- I think that would give a good view of hte vapor as it hits the light from wiondow and sort of illuminates it. It will give a good view of the vapor both in a room environment, and in daylight- two for hte price of one lol.
Show hte vapor on a fixed video and closer to mouth but at angle from slightly behind with video angle close to light source like window- start hte vapor a foot or so showing it agaisnt a wall, then moving into hte light- I think that would give a good view of hte vapor as it hits the light from wiondow and sort of illuminates it. It will give a good view of the vapor both in a room environment, and in daylight- two for hte price of one lol.
Trog, if you threw these away DAILY, it prices out at $1.80 a day ($90 gets you 50 cartridge/atomizers). This is well within my break point. Initial cost is ridiculously high, but maintaining reliable, repeatable e-smoking at a cost lower than smoking cigarettes has been a Holy Grail for me for some time now. My interest in truly disposable e-cigarettes is extreme, to say the least! I want 'em. I am getting sick of the "junkie" routine present devices put us through. We're slaves, not to nicotine, but to batteries and atomizers and spare parts and slow boats from China. $1.80 a day? Count me in.
When are you buying one TB? lool I think we're all waitign for someone on hte forum to take hte plunge hheee hee. I might just do it once I see if other flavored cartridges help the awful taste any. If so, I htink probably htebest way to order from loongtotem site is to get the starter kit that has two batteries, and order the cartridges seperately instead of gettign hte kit that has 50 standard cartridges with it.
lool I think we're all waitign for someone on hte forum to take hte plunge hheee hee. I might just do it once I see if other flavored cartridges help the awful taste any. If so, I htink probably htebest way to order from loongtotem site is to get the starter kit that has two batteries, and order the cartridges seperately instead of gettign hte kit that has 50 standard cartridges with it.very true bob.. but my system of treat the existing ones as disposable irrespective of what the sellers claim seem to look like working out.. i have just ordered new four pipe atomizers from china.. i am %99 certain they will be here in a week or slightly over..
my weekly costs including the renewal of one pipe atomizer every two weeks (bought in batches of four every two months) and the consumption of up to 3 ml of 24 mg liquid per day are working out at around 25 dollars per week..
this equates with half an ounce of UK priced rolling tobacco per day.. no problems with slow boat service cos i have bypassed the need for it..
i have achieved your holy grail bob.. if i compare with UK real cig prices i have more than halved halved my costs..
my grail was to do it for next to no cost.. the need to keep buying spare parts kinda buggered this one up thow.. i had hoped each pipe atomizer would last a month.. but even at a new one every two weeks ordered in advance it is still cost effective.. it also provides a nicely working reliable and consistent device.. when dripped.. put a cart anywhere near them and the consistent reliability turns into smoke when they feel like it.. they suit being dripped cos the atomizer is big enough not to have to do it too often.. ten drops gives two hours of very consistent smoking..
i could also do it for around the same cost using the pillbox 901 generics.. i like the way the pipes work thow.. even if they only do it two bloody weeks..
a new pipe every two weeks works out at over 400 dollars per year.. some say i should lay out more money for a named brand that lasts longer.. but being as dont think such a thing exists i cant..
i would be happy pay up to a thousand dollars for a device that would provide reliable service without the return issue if there was such a thing.. my way isnt cheap bob but its the only way to avoid the "service" issue and the fraudulent five guarantee issue hassle..
i already have my "cheap" disposable.. i have created my own..
trog
my weekly costs including the renewal of one pipe atomizer every two weeks (bought in batches of four every two months) and the consumption of up to 3 ml of 24 mg liquid per day are working out at around 25 dollars per week..
this equates with half an ounce of UK priced rolling tobacco per day.. no problems with slow boat service cos i have bypassed the need for it..
i have achieved your holy grail bob.. if i compare with UK real cig prices i have more than halved halved my costs..
my grail was to do it for next to no cost.. the need to keep buying spare parts kinda buggered this one up thow.. i had hoped each pipe atomizer would last a month.. but even at a new one every two weeks ordered in advance it is still cost effective.. it also provides a nicely working reliable and consistent device.. when dripped.. put a cart anywhere near them and the consistent reliability turns into smoke when they feel like it.. they suit being dripped cos the atomizer is big enough not to have to do it too often.. ten drops gives two hours of very consistent smoking..
i could also do it for around the same cost using the pillbox 901 generics.. i like the way the pipes work thow.. even if they only do it two bloody weeks..
a new pipe every two weeks works out at over 400 dollars per year.. some say i should lay out more money for a named brand that lasts longer.. but being as dont think such a thing exists i cant..
i would be happy pay up to a thousand dollars for a device that would provide reliable service without the return issue if there was such a thing.. my way isnt cheap bob but its the only way to avoid the "service" issue and the fraudulent five guarantee issue hassle..
i already have my "cheap" disposable.. i have created my own..
trog
Like you, Naz, I'm waiting for others to buy and report. Mixos' reports are great! The videos are great! I immediately put the negative post in that other thread out of mind. After all, we've read of nJoy, Ruyan, Sedanza -- all attacked here at one time or another. You can't please all of the people, all of the time.
If I suffer serious device failure, I'll strongly consider a true disposable as a replacement.
In the meantime, development can only make it better.
If I suffer serious device failure, I'll strongly consider a true disposable as a replacement.
In the meantime, development can only make it better.
Yeah- the other thread really disuaded me from buying it- I had the order ready to go, but decided to check this forum onel ast time before ordering, and saw that thread- I just hope I don't get stung by loong not sendign a charger and htencharging another shipping fee if I decide to order from them- If I do decide to get one, I just don't liek hte fact that the batteries are so darn expensive- I'd liek ot pick up 4 to have two on hand for backup, and two in use at a time, but it's just way too cost prohibitive right now to do that htrough loong- wish other batteries fit the model, i'd just order the flavored cartridges & be doen with it. - their idea of disposable, and hte design I think is a real winner- too bad they use proprietary batteries htough- Woudl be cool if someone figured out how to cob together a different batter for hte device
have u guys thought about making your own device.. all it takes is say a classic type atomizer.. the brass end out an old classic battery.. a decent sized lithium cell a normal pipe one could be used or a bigger one and a small manual switch..
the pipe type battery would be connected to the old brass classic battery end and the atomizer screwed in.. the difficult bit is holding it all together in a neat fashion.. making or finding some kind of neat looking case to hold it all together..
i have thought about it but so far gotten no further.. he he
trog
the pipe type battery would be connected to the old brass classic battery end and the atomizer screwed in.. the difficult bit is holding it all together in a neat fashion.. making or finding some kind of neat looking case to hold it all together..
i have thought about it but so far gotten no further.. he he
trog
What we need is some standardization of threads, etc., so a battery for my pathetic Health mini cig would could power disposable cartridges/atomizers. With old camera filters, the problem was solved with step-up, step-down rings. That would be in line with Trog's idea. A small ring would screw into the Health battery and the other side would have a thread or whatever to accept the LoongTotem cartridge/atomizer combo!
Yes, a handy person might be able to create one. And what a market would open up for those step-up, step-down e-smoking rings. Now, where's that guy that created the Rubber Ducky Sucker Cig?
Yes, a handy person might be able to create one. And what a market would open up for those step-up, step-down e-smoking rings. Now, where's that guy that created the Rubber Ducky Sucker Cig?
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Mixos, the next time you use up a cartridge/atomizer, hang on to it. I believe you're in Australia -- or New Zealand -- but I might want it mailed to me in the States to see if I can create a ring to mate a normal (cheap) cigarette battery to the LoongTotem reusable carts. Now wouldn't that be something?
Once we get beyond duct tape, white glue and vice-grip pliers, I'm calling in a handyman.
But, heck, duct tape might work, especially if I hold the pieces in place with vice-grip pliers while the white glue sets.
But, heck, duct tape might work, especially if I hold the pieces in place with vice-grip pliers while the white glue sets.
We could. That's the idea. An adaptor ring. I need to understand how the battery connects to the cartridge/atomizer, though. A ring might just block current flow to the heater element.
What the heck? I might buy it before long. Maybe $42 is in line. I.e.: The battery on my iRobot Roomba was overheating and lasting only about 5 minutes, so I priced its replacement. Yikes. $49.95. I think sometimes I'm living in the past. Everything has become sooo expensive.
What the heck? I might buy it before long. Maybe $42 is in line. I.e.: The battery on my iRobot Roomba was overheating and lasting only about 5 minutes, so I priced its replacement. Yikes. $49.95. I think sometimes I'm living in the past. Everything has become sooo expensive.
if dont care what it looks like its easy.. u need to source the bits.. the small manual press switch.. a big lithium battery from dealextreme this is connected by soldered wire to the brass end from the dead battery.. it would have to be one that fits the atomizer u choose.. i would go for standard thread classic end and use a standard thread classic atomizer to fit it..
another way is to use three AAA sized metal hydride batteries.. they are 1.2 volts each.. three would give 3.6 bolts the same as a single lithium cell..
this is the easy way.. buy a small flat battery holder that takes four AAA size batteries side by side.. in place of the fourth battery fit your atomizer.. this screws into the brass threaded end obtained from the dead classic battery.. the brass end is wired (soldered) to the three batteries in the holder.. u still need the press switch in line but they can be bought..
the thing would not be very big.. look fairly neat and have a battery around three times the capacity the average e cig has.. it would last all day and not wear out for ages..
u could make a bigger one using three AA 2000 milliamp hour batteries.. that would last two or three days..
i would make one using the cheap 901 generic atomizer i think.. it would cost next to nothing..
the device would work on the press to operate principle.. no pressure switch..
the bit u need thow is the dead battery brass end.. using any generic makes this easy.. even if a new battery is ripped apart to get the end it wouldnt cost much.. the battery could be permanent wired to the atomizer.. but it would mean re sodering the connection each time the atomizer needed changeing.. the screw in brass battery end means the atomizer could be removed any time with ease..
simply the large increase in battery size (run time) makes making your own worth doing..
a classic type is a good choice.. the carts are bigger than the generic 901 but if topped up or dripped this wouldnt matter..
if i had a suitable switch laying around i would make one based on the three metal hydride AAA battery box idea.. i have enough dead batteries for the brass battery end..
trog
ps.. using any standard e cig battery is a bad idea in any home made device.. the bloody things are not big enough.. small batteries are one of the major design faults of the e cig.. a home made one dosnt need this crap.. give it a decent sized battery
ps.. just to get boring.. he he.. another option would be the over and under design.. source a cheap chinese aluminum mini torch that will hold a single decent sized lithium cell.. with luck the press torch switch might do the job as well.. fasten the dead battery brass end to the top of the torch.. screw in your atomize make it secure somehow and off u go..
another way is to use three AAA sized metal hydride batteries.. they are 1.2 volts each.. three would give 3.6 bolts the same as a single lithium cell..
this is the easy way.. buy a small flat battery holder that takes four AAA size batteries side by side.. in place of the fourth battery fit your atomizer.. this screws into the brass threaded end obtained from the dead classic battery.. the brass end is wired (soldered) to the three batteries in the holder.. u still need the press switch in line but they can be bought..
the thing would not be very big.. look fairly neat and have a battery around three times the capacity the average e cig has.. it would last all day and not wear out for ages..
u could make a bigger one using three AA 2000 milliamp hour batteries.. that would last two or three days..
i would make one using the cheap 901 generic atomizer i think.. it would cost next to nothing..
the device would work on the press to operate principle.. no pressure switch..
the bit u need thow is the dead battery brass end.. using any generic makes this easy.. even if a new battery is ripped apart to get the end it wouldnt cost much.. the battery could be permanent wired to the atomizer.. but it would mean re sodering the connection each time the atomizer needed changeing.. the screw in brass battery end means the atomizer could be removed any time with ease..
simply the large increase in battery size (run time) makes making your own worth doing..
a classic type is a good choice.. the carts are bigger than the generic 901 but if topped up or dripped this wouldnt matter..
if i had a suitable switch laying around i would make one based on the three metal hydride AAA battery box idea.. i have enough dead batteries for the brass battery end..
trog
ps.. using any standard e cig battery is a bad idea in any home made device.. the bloody things are not big enough.. small batteries are one of the major design faults of the e cig.. a home made one dosnt need this crap.. give it a decent sized battery
ps.. just to get boring.. he he.. another option would be the over and under design.. source a cheap chinese aluminum mini torch that will hold a single decent sized lithium cell.. with luck the press torch switch might do the job as well.. fasten the dead battery brass end to the top of the torch.. screw in your atomize make it secure somehow and off u go..
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source the bits.. there are two ways of making things naz.. make all your own bits from scratch.. or cannibalize other things.. cannibalizing other thing is by far the easiest method.. the term "source the bits".. means look around at whats available to be cannibalized or available off the shelf to buy to find the bits u need to make your device..
if u cant make things yourself.. drag in a friend who can tell him what u want and get him to do it.. it really is easy to make better e smoking device.. the ones we have have all been buggered up by being made to look like a normal cigarette..
trog
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Actually, thanks, but I care very much how it looks. I want it to look exactly like your average e-cig. That's why I'm looking at the idea of an adaptor ring. I want the two pieces, battery and atomizer/cart, to link up perfectly. I need to see the LoongTotem setup to see if it can work at all. I've looked at the photos on LoongTotem and can see that their battery has a different thread size than the Health mini cig. There's is bigger. I need a stepdown ring. Now, I need to see the LoongTotem cart to see how mismatches could be turned into matches.
u would have to make one bob.. i doubt it will ever get done.. its a simple enough thing but e cig step down rings dont exist.. i have dozens for my cameras they are bit on the large size thow.. he he
one has to be a little realistic bob.. else just dream.. in short u aint gonna find your step down ring.. i hope u can prove me wrong but i doubt it..
trog
one has to be a little realistic bob.. else just dream.. in short u aint gonna find your step down ring.. i hope u can prove me wrong but i doubt it..
trog
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