Loong Totem V9

[jamie]

Whiel you're waiting, how bout soem more vape videos? Never can have enough videos Show hte vapor on a fixed video and closer to mouth but at angle from slightly behind with video angle close to light source like window- start hte vapor a foot or so showing it agaisnt a wall, then moving into hte light- I think that would give a good view of hte vapor as it hits the light from wiondow and sort of illuminates it. It will give a good view of the vapor both in a room environment, and in daylight- two for hte price of one lol.

HAHAHA Sounds pretty vape-whorish Naz!

 

[Nazareth]

lol didn't mean for it to sound that way lol- I guess it does eh? Woops

 

[mixos]

UPDATE!!!

ok guys, got the cartridges today, got good news and bad news.

BAD NEWS
-I ordered 50 cartridges, hoping to get tobbaco flavours but got fruit flavours
-None of the cartriges are labled in anyway so i have no idea which is which flavour
-The tastes are very very very weak, so weak that you pretty much cant work out what it is
-There appears to be less vapour produced from these cartridges at this point (maybe a battery issue)


GOOD NEWS
-Very fast delievery
-The orginal bad taste is no longer there, it seems to not be present or atleast of been covered up.
-These cartridges have a very plain taste, not bad, but nothing special either.

So in my pursuit for the perfect esmoke i have ordered from them another 50 cartridges in Marlboro, 555,China,Hilton and flue cured tobbaco flavours(which is supposed to be closest to a real smoke) And have asked for them to lable the cartridge boxes this time.

So i will now have 150 cartridges to play around with ahhahahah

 

[TropicalBob]

With those flavors offered, you can bet that these and E-Cig use the same liquid (and didn't someone say LoongTotem confirmed that IT provided E-Cig the liquid?). I can confirm that E-Cig cartridges are made in Cuba and sent to China (I've posted the link before).

I am familiar with all E-Cig flavors, having ordered and used the full sample pack. Hands down, the best is flue-cured tobacco. Nothing else from E-Cig comes close.

Using disposables eliminates the problem of clogging atomizers, though.

And, yes, the "flavors" are weak to the point of sometimes being undetectable. You can't smell nor taste a difference between and among them.

But I could live with disposable flue-cured. If you have a battery issue, however, that's not good. Those things are ridiculously expensive for what they are, and no one wants to replace them regularly.

Keep us posted and thanks. You see that GreenCig has joined the forum???? The race is on.

 

[mixos]

With those flavors offered, you can bet that these and E-Cig use the same liquid (and didn't someone say LoongTotem confirmed that IT provided E-Cig the liquid?). I can confirm that E-Cig cartridges are made in Cuba and sent to China (I've posted the link before).

I am familiar with all E-Cig flavors, having ordered and used the full sample pack. Hands down, the best is flue-cured tobacco. Nothing else from E-Cig comes close.

Using disposables eliminates the problem of clogging atomizers, though.

And, yes, the "flavors" are weak to the point of sometimes being undetectable. You can't smell nor taste a difference between and among them.

But I could live with disposable flue-cured. If you have a battery issue, however, that's not good. Those things are ridiculously expensive for what they are, and no one wants to replace them regularly.

Keep us posted and thanks. You see that GreenCig has joined the forum???? The race is on.

Its not a battery failure issue, just that i dont have a fully charged battery ready. Seems that the charger has Red,orange and green led.

If flue cured is as good as you say then i still have hope. If you want a cartridge or 2 to expriment on shoot me a pm.

 

[Miss Diane]

UPDATE!!!

ok guys, got the cartridges today, got good news and bad news.

BAD NEWS
-I ordered 50 cartridges, hoping to get tobbaco flavours but got fruit flavours
-None of the cartriges are labled in anyway so i have no idea which is which flavour
-The tastes are very very very weak, so weak that you pretty much cant work out what it is
-There appears to be less vapour produced from these cartridges at this point (maybe a battery issue)


GOOD NEWS
-Very fast delievery
-The orginal bad taste is no longer there, it seems to not be present or atleast of been covered up.
-These cartridges have a very plain taste, not bad, but nothing special either.

So in my pursuit for the perfect esmoke i have ordered from them another 50 cartridges in Marlboro, 555,China,Hilton and flue cured tobbaco flavours(which is supposed to be closest to a real smoke) And have asked for them to lable the cartridge boxes this time.

So i will now have 150 cartridges to play around with ahhahahah

Hi mixos

When i emailed them and asked if they did high strength flavoured cartridges they told me i would at least have to order 5000 pieces, so please can you tell me how you managed to get a choice, as you know they dont give you a choice on the website,

whos e;mail have you got

 

[mixos]

I was told the same thing aswell, due to the language barrier i think that they mean if you want a custom strength or flavour u have to order 5000. I suggest you speak to them live on msn or yahoo as its much easier and quicker to convey what you want and to understand them. then when you actually place the order make sure to write in the remarks section exactly what you want.

 

[Mr.Darcy]

the weak nicotine strengths per cart are a problem for those of us who dont want to use snus etc,and are depending solely on vaping for our daily fix...which i think is the vast majority of us...

 

[CaSHMeRe]

GOOD NEWS
-Very fast delievery
-The orginal bad taste is no longer there, it seems to not be present or atleast of been covered up.
-These cartridges have a very plain taste, not bad, but nothing special either.

covered up is what you DON'T want ...

With those flavors offered, you can bet that these and E-Cig use the same liquid (and didn't someone say LoongTotem confirmed that IT provided E-Cig the liquid?)

YES ... 100% confirmed. Loong Totem supplies E-Cig.com Eliquid.

 

[TropicalBob]

This is somewhat relevant info, Darcy ... we had a poster here not long ago who said he could order an e-cig to be delivered in his country, and could order non-nicotine cartridges. Nicotine, however, in cartridges or liquid, was not legal to sell or import. He never posted the country, so I PM'd him. He answered me.

Israel.

That tells me realms about the future problems we face if we depend solely on nicotine from e-smoking.

 

[TheEmperorOfIceCream]

I'm not going near this till it's available ex-China (and not from a shaved gorilla)

Teetering on the edge since I saw your vids, Mixos. I may have to give up my ban on ordering from China.

Pricy? Yeah. Returns a pain when it tanks? Sure. Refills take forever to arrive? You know it.

Still...

 

[TropicalBob]

The LoongTotem does seem to have a few problems. Price is not one of them to me, however. But I'm hanging in there until GreenCig comes alive and we read some user experiences. The concept is the same good one, so we can do head-to-head comparisons of disposables.

 

[Mr.Darcy]

This is somewhat relevant info, Darcy ... we had a poster here not long ago who said he could order an e-cig to be delivered in his country, and could order non-nicotine cartridges. Nicotine, however, in cartridges or liquid, was not legal to sell or import. He never posted the country, so I PM'd him. He answered me.

Israel.

That tells me realms about the future problems we face if we depend solely on nicotine from e-smoking.

yes i know Bob,but the fact is that most of us currently depend on e-smoking alone,and 8mg high carts just wont cut it...not for me anyway...and as far as im aware,snus is currently illegal in every member state of the EU-except Sweden.

the only thing we can do to combat this is to refill the LT carts with higher strength liquid,if thats even really possible without too much hassle,or the material scorching...which compromises its use as a daily disposable device,and also means we have to continue on the eliquid merry-go-round...

i want something which makes the jars of liquid i have everywhere unnecessary...that would be a truly convenient device...im just worried that the low strengths offered will not satisfy me...and unfortunately the greencig offers the same measly strengths.

now,im also praying for disposables to be an option...but i dont think i can live with the strength adjustment...even 14mg carts are too weak for me,so i doubt 8mg carts will give much kick at all...fine for what Trog calls the placebo smoker,and fine for people with other methods of nicotine intake...not good enough for the heavy,serious and dependant e-smoker...

 

[TheEmperorOfIceCream]

Yeah, I'm real-... free for ten days now and my medium and low carts are gathering dust (destined to become melange, I reckon). I only use high-strength carts and my tongue's hanging out for Smokester's liquid re-stock on Friday (and MacFan to go live). Still humming and haa-ing about Snus, Past the will I, won't I stage - now I'm fretting about whether or not they'll get caught up by customs (or if the seller will even ship to a country where they're illegal). I think I saw a post by Bob where people buy the tin and - oh look! - it's got some teabags in it...

 

[TropicalBob]

From my snus forum, I can assure you the only illegality is selling snus in the EU countries other than Sweden. Even that is being challenged now. It's stupid. Snus is safe harm reduction for smokers. But you can get hit with excessive "duty" fees that we don't have in America.

As for mail order .. that's how we in the U.S. get snus. I got a big order in about three days ago from The Northerner in Sweden. I usually go for "tasty" snus with medium nicotine kick, but always order the super-powerful Wise 6mg Wine and Chef snus. I used one of those yesterday -- first time in awhile -- and I almost fell out of my computer chair. It spins your head. Click a stopwatch and wait 10 minutes! Definitely satisfies any addicted nicotine freak.

I agree on low strengths, however. I have never ordered anything but 24m high strength cartridges and liquid. I still have a ton of it waiting for use.

Did you happen to notice Dr. Loi's post that he experimented with 40mg !! liquid? It was fine stuff, he wrote. Wow. Where did he get that? If the New Zealand findings are correct, and 16mg fluid gives us 1/5th the nic of a cigarette puff, well ... we've got a nic problem akin to patches and gums and lozenges. Too little of it.

 

[TheEmperorOfIceCream]

I'm in quite a few minds about this, Bob. I don't think I want to go too far north strength-wise after 24mg. The reason is I'm like Dusty with these things - it hangs from my mouth like a dummy. So I'm sort of OK with multiplying the use time but dropping the strength. I can't help wondering, though, if higher strength carts, or supplementing my intake with Snus, will cause me to put it aside more often, which I'd like to do. I'm at home a lot right now, so the work environment restriction isn't in place.

Still weighing up all the factors...

 

[Nazareth]

Mixons- I don't see anywhereo n that site to order flavored cartridges? I'm glad to hear that hte taste improved- that's very encouraging news and might just make me order one, but do you havel ink to the flavored cartridges? I simpyl can not find htem- their stinkin site is terrible! also, yeah- fruit flavored never are strong- none that I've tried anyways- stick with hte tobacco flavors for strongest flavors- looksl iek you're goign to be well set for cartridges for a year or so now lol

 

[kramerica2]

This is somewhat relevant info, Darcy ... we had a poster here not long ago who said he could order an e-cig to be delivered in his country, and could order non-nicotine cartridges. Nicotine, however, in cartridges or liquid, was not legal to sell or import. He never posted the country, so I PM'd him. He answered me.

Israel.

That tells me realms about the future problems we face if we depend solely on nicotine from e-smoking.

Yeah, that was me...
I can order nic. carts from abroad without any legal problems, but the importers around here can't sell them yet. It's funny, the importer has nic. carts on his website for sale, so I mailed him about it and he told me that they bypass the law by having the product sent for me directly from abroad. That I can also do by myself and save money.... I don't know, to me it seems strange that the law has no problem with real cigs (except for taxes of-course), but nic. carts require a special Health Department approval.

 

[TropicalBob]

Real cigs have history. E-cigs are new devices to deliver nicotine. New products undergo fierce scrutiny today. I don't think anyone thinks any government would approve sale of cigarettes if that product were being proposed for the first time.

Good to know you can get higher strength cartridges, though. I consider Israel a very, very smart and savvy country. One of the best. I will not be surprised if the U.S. does something similar in outlawing sale of nicotine liquid and cartridges.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

I will not be surprised if the U.S. does something similar in outlawing sale of nicotine liquid and cartridges.

at least they wouldn't outlaw the device itself (knock on wood). gonna be like moonshine in the olden days ... everyone will be cooking up eliquid themselves. some really good recipes will probably be discovered.

blank/empty carts can always be bought and homemade eliquid used