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mixos

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OK GUYS got my new flavours i asked for 10x Flue-cured Tobbaco 10x China 10x Marlboro 10x 555 10x Hilton all in 4mg. AND PLEASE LABLE EACH BOX WITH THE FLAVOUR SO I KNOW WHICH ONE IS WHICH [because last time they didnt label each box and didnt know which is which]
but the problem is they didnt send me what i asked for and told me that they just started making diffrent flavours for cartdriges for v9,and they send me grape mild taste 2/10 straberry mild taste 3/10 orange nice taste 4/10 some herb ginseng 0/10[which tasted like grass]vanilla which was quiet good 5/10 but they didnt send me the flue cured tobacco china marlboro or 555 or hilton which i asked for i send them back a message telling them why did they send these flavours if i didnt ask for them ,and they told me that the dont have them in stock yet,and i told them then why the **** did you send me any flavour you liked ,next time dont say that you can send me the tobacco flavours in the first place.[spoke to them on msn and told me that they could]
so i am stuck with all these flavours.
the other thing i noticed was that the original flavour makes more smoke ,but taste isnt the best ,i can say that now i am used to the flavour at some point.it takes time to get use to but the smoke makes up for it.
the other thing i noticed was the batteries arnt that good ,now they have a new improved battery on there site will see about that i might buy it and try it out.
my opinion is that if you want to buy this v9 buy the flavours from the drop down list ,dont ask for diffrent flavours they will screw it up and send what ever flavours they like.
will have to wait till the drop down list has more flavours
 
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mixos

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ok just spoke to loongtotem and they are going to send me a battery the new one v10 battery for free,because they made a mistake on the order,but i have to pay shipping ,so they arnt that bad after all.then in a few days i will see if the new battery is better then the old one for sure [will put them to the test]the old ones dont last more than 3- 4 hours ,i seem to be playing with the charging routine all the time ,i think i need an other charger,will see how the new battery goes anyway.LIKE I SAID TO EVERONE , i throw away my cardrige every 2 days just for the **** of it,just to have a new one ,its always the battery running out on me not the liquid.and even if you think that you might suck on it more than me ,[that i dont think so] it will still last you a whole day For SURE.
still waiting for janty to come so i can make an other video to compare so everone can see,
WHO IS KING
 
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Well this is certainly good news (even htough you got screwed o nthe flavors) at least we know now that the taste isn't bad with other cartridges, so this pretty much solidifies the fact that hte original cartridge flavors was causign hte awful taste, and not somethign actually burning or melting. Makes me a bitm ore positive abotu perhaps tryign the product. Oh, & If you don't want ot be stuck with htose flavors, you cna send me them with a battery and charger- I'll 'suffer' through them :) lol

the bad news though is that hteir business is really whacked- badly so. Sure wish there was another dealer/reseller somewhere with am ore reputable business practice, and lower shipping fees.
 

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Sounds like they merged with E-Cig and absorbed that incompetent staff.

I'm holding my breath and checkbook until GreenCig hits the market. Right now, LoongTotem is the lone disposable e-cig. Competition is needed. And it's coming. We just have to wait a bit longer.

With a myecig.com pen style and a Janty Kissbox next to my laptop, my own wait is quite pleasant.
 

TheEmperorOfIceCream

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King of what? King of amount of smoke? We want lesser smoke, just enough, and more taste. Most of our clients want to be able to vaporize in public without being harassed :p

Easy win? advise them to hold the vapour in their mouth. Me, I need to be invisible behind the billowing clouds...
 

Kit

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i only need to see visible smoke because its the only way for me to tell how well the device is working.. however can see the logic behind the ruyan discretion..

sadly it could also be a neat excuse for a device turning into a wimp.. "well sir its meant to be this way".. he he

trog
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sounds like an excuse for churning out more poor devices
shame on them !
 

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This is really going to divide users .. easy to see that. But I think a liquid maker like Macfan could adjust contents to minimize or maximize vapor production. A thinner mix might be more completely absorbed with each inhalation. A thicker mix might use more PG; a thinner one, more alcohol. I'm sure Ruyan has tinkered with content mixture this way.

I'm more concerned with taste than visibility. Present commercial liquids are so wimpy that the flavoring can't even be distinguished. Still, vapor visibility is important. I've seen studies about smoking in the dark. There's decreased satisfaction without visible exhalations.

As with cigarette brands, there may one day be a variety of liquids offering degrees of taste, bite, hit and vapor quantity. Get to work, Macfan.
 

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Discrete vapour
sounds like an excuse for churning out more poor devices
shame on them !

right or not it is an easy excuse for a dud e cig.. but anybody who has seen the early ruyan promotion videos will see the logic.. smoke real or not is offensive to none smokers and especially "ex smokers" ..

i might seem antagonistic to ruyan but i aint really.. just the people who have picked up on the original idea and are selling it to a market that it isnt suitable for..

trog

ps.. there is a real market for their expensive throw away cigar.. the well off "travel market" sold at airports and in the right places its a sound idea.. and again the more discrete it is the better.. even a cheapskate like me would buy one if it meant eight hours on an airplane without torment.. 45 dollars is cheap at the price..

in fact the airlines even should sell the bloody things their flying cattle trucks..
 
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Nazareth

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Vapor is quite important to me- it doesn't matter if a device produces alot o0f vapor- for htose hwo want less- like emp said- hold the vapor in lungs a bit logner- a great producing device would satisfy both camps, a whimpy one would only satip;sfy one "camp.

Of course, liek TB said, the juice can be adjusted to suit both camps, but it would only work IF the device is a powersmoke producer to begin with.

Vapor is quite important to most smokers, and one of hte bigger triggers in smoking- those who want alot of vapor will do better at cutting down on smoking real ciggs with a device that satisfies the desire to see vapor- a device that is whimpy will only end in frustration, and may lead to increase in smoking real ciggs as people's nerves are shot after having to work so durn hard to get soem vapor

There are several very factors in smoking- one of hte biggest is hte visual, and a device that doesn't deliver only ends up frustrating. We're already a bit frustrated with having to deal with hte quirks and unreliability of htese devices and dealign with dying atomizers etc- I think the loong and greencig will help in htis department quite a bit. Right now, we're forced to deal with fussing with out devices, which I really don't care for too much. I just htink the fact that the loong is a good vapor producer, disposable, and has atomizers all ready to go when hte old one dries up is the future of Esmoking. Companies should start reinventing hteir penstyles and minis as it's my belief these devices were not ready for hte market yet due to the atomizer issues. For $300+ dollars, I expected a device or two that would work more than two weeks tops- Heck- I expected it to work for quite a few months, and have been quite idssappointed that this has not been the case.
 

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King of what? King of amount of smoke? We want lesser smoke, just enough, and more taste. Most of our clients want to be able to vaporize in public without being harassed :p

are you for real?

i hope youre joking,because if you arent,then it shows a total lack of knowledge of what the vast majority of we consumers want...if we want to vapourise in public without being harassed,we hold it in,its no problem.

we all want more vapour,not less!
 

TheEmperorOfIceCream

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Hiya Naz

Bullseye mate. To my mind everyone of the visual and tactile elements contributes to a nic-slave's ability to switch completely. Just look at our community - Over and again, I've seen posts saying something like 'I wasn't looking to quit, just wanted to smoke in a pub, but I haven't touched a ... since I got this'.

The fact that you inhale it into your lungs is an important (perhaps even primary) factor, but it's not the only one. Every other quitting device falls down badly somewhere. Ours falls down on reliability for the moment, but when they're smokin', so are we...

Emp
 

Mr.Darcy

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Maybe you should do the test? Visit a restaurant or any public place and produce BIG clouds of smoke. Let us know the result :p
mate,if your long term plans are to reduce vapour amounts,then its bye bye Janty for most of us,i'll wager...

this is Europe/USA,not Asia...we WANT vapour...

if i want a device with very little vapour,i'll buy a pen style from ecig.com for next to nothing.
 

TropicalBob

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Ruyan has stated this philosophy before. What I can say is that I have a Janty Kissbox and it can produce more vapor than any device I've ever used or tested, equal to anything you see in videos.

The manual switch is mind-boggling. Hold down the button and let that atomizer do its job before you inhale. You'll get a cloud for sure. But that's fine in your bathroom. Not so fine at a public library. That where secret sipping comes in. You don't want vapor. Nic hit, no vapor.

But here's the best thing about my Janty: You can draw on it easily and get a full amount of vapor. You don't have to turn your cheeks inside out sucking on something. Just an easy draw, and you're set. Plus, the flavor is tops.

Now, let the vapor battle continue.
 
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