Lorann's Cool Crème De Menthe, Natural

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3McG3

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Thanks, GrannyM!

So, the difference between this: https://www.lorannoils.com/p-8332-creme-de-menthe-flavor.aspx and the one I posted originally is just the alcohol, glycol, and coloring? I just read another post here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/28975-lorann-flavors-color-coded-complete-ingredients-list.html where she lists things in red if they are "bad", and she lists the ones that aren't water soluble in red. I see that they have 2 different kinds of peppermint oil. One is water soluble, and one isn't. So confusing to a newbie!
 

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Wow, I recall looking at that list over 3 years ago when I first started DIY, lol. :)

Remember now, that is just one person's interpretation of what is bad or good. While there is a whole body of vapers that will tell you not to use ANY type of oil flavoring (and perhaps they are just reiterating what they have seen someone else post), there are also quite a few veterans here that have used certain oil flavorings without issue, myself included. I only use the mint oils, but I think that others have used anise, orange, and maybe a few other flavors as well. These particular ones are NOT the types of oils that cause lipid pneumonia and my experience hasn't shown that they will kill attys.

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Also keep in mind that no flavorings have been verified "safe" to vape. We can only try to make informed choices on what we use. I use the mint oils at extremely low percentages because they are so potent. I don't believe that using them in this way is any worse than using a non-oil type flavoring at higher percentage. But that's just what I think. Really aren't any facts to back this up, one way or the other. But I do believe there are some oils you definitely need to avoid, like vegetable oils. You'll want to do some more reading on that for sure.

Now for the creme de menthe....I have used the one with the food coloring from LorAnn. I think I used it at about 8% and my final liquid was a faint green. I wish it didn't have dyes, but I know LorAnn adds food coloring because most of these flavors are meant for candymaking and such. If the color bothers you, or you want to avoid the oil version from LorAnn, you could try the Flavor Apprentice version which is clear & water soluble.

Good luck!! :):)
 

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Thank you again, GrannyM. I had been getting confused about "oil". As you say - many claim that it is dangerous, many say that it is safe. Thankfully, after reading the Lorann brochure, I have learned that both of their Menthe flavors, while called "oils" actually have no oil in them whatsoever.

I'm going to try the Lorann Menthe that has no coloring, alcohol or glycol. I am guessing that I will need to use my own sweetener. I have read good things about this stuff: Sugar Cream DIY Flavoring.

I wish that they listed the ingredients. I'm trying to be as safe as possible. I've only been vaping for 3 weeks, but I'm going to start rebuilding my vivi attys with cotton wicks, and making my own juice with as few "dangerous" ingredients as possible. I bought some crème de menthe with menthol and sweetener from ecblendflavors.com, and fell in love with it. I'm researching supplies to be able to make about 2 years worth. The people in these forums (yourself included!) are so helpful - but at times contradictory and confusing. It's nice to hear someone like you - who is middle-ground and understands that there is no proof for most of this stuff, it's all a combination of common-sense and opinion. Thanks for adding your 2cents - I need all the help I can get!
 
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