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been sub ohming for 18 months. the orion is my first device like this. think i made the correct choice after using it for a week. lovely wee thing.
got more 0.5 pods inbound. mixed some 12mg instead of my usual 6mg. nice hit on medium with replay on the go.
tempted to get another...
 

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Does the coil resistance affect the flavor? I just bought the Orion and I vape 35mg salt nic juice on the 0.5 pods, I find the flavor to be lacking. I have tried changing settings following other forumer suggestion, it still didn't taste very good.

Am I missing something important?

No the resistance of the coil doesn't significantly change the flavor of the pods. You might notice some minimal difference between the two pods though. The .25 pod produces more vapor when compared to the .5 pod. The increase in vapor may increase flavor to a slight degree.

I would suggest messing with the airflow and wattage settings if flavor is lacking. You may also consider using a juice with higher pg to help increase flavor. But ultimately the orion isn't what I would consider to be very flavorful compared to some of the other options out there. You may just have to experiment with different juices to find something you find consistently good in the orion.

Another thing to consider is that some juices just don't taste right in some devices. I haven't really figured it out yet but I have one flavor I vape frequently that tastes awesome in the sourin drop. Any other device I use it in it doesn't taste the same, sometimes bordering on bad.

Unfortunately like with almost all devices that are advertised as both mtl and dl the orion doesn't really do either exceptionally well in my opinion. Still a great device but you do have to except it for what it is. It's still miles better than a majority of pod systems.
 
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Don't know if already mentioned here.

The 1 OHM Pods do have a smaller air chamber which could help with MTL.
Don't forget to change the escribe settings on the 0.5 Pod Coils max Ohm to 1.1 and upload before you use them.

BUT please forget Replay Mode with these Pods as the wire is Kanthal.
 

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Just got some 1 ohm pods today. Using escribe I have the settings at 15W, Boost5, no replay. Getting just an "OK" vape it is not as harsh as the 0.5 ohm and the flavor is a bit better. Escribe shows 14.0w, 3.7v and 3.7amps. No matter the setting that is the max the DNA board will put out. The smaller air chamber seems to make a difference. Even the 0.25 pod is giving me a smoother MTL hit than the larger air chamber 0.5 pod. All comparisons are MTL done with new pods, fully charged/ connected to laptop, and the same 25mg nic slats ejuice. Out of all three pods I like the 0.25 ohm the best, 1.0 ohm second and 0.5 ohm last, for vape production, flavor, and smoothness of the throat hit.

I will be using the Orion for RDL and going with my Bersker RTA for MTL. I will just have to wait and see if they put the smaller air chamber in the 0.5 ohm pods. I really want to like this device but the lack of a good MTL vape is very disappointing.
 

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I need to correct something. This thing will last me all day... as long as it's fully charged.
I'm not sure why, but when I plug it into the outlet in my room, it blinks for a few seconds like it's charging, then goes blue light like it's charged (which I hadn't noticed before). It charges fine in the living room on the surge protector and plugged into a computer or vehicle. I ordered a surge protector for the bedroom. Hopefully that solves it. If that's the problem, I'm glad it protects itself. I needed a travel surge protector anyway I suppose.

I don't understand this. The way the Orion comes from the factory is that if the battery is fully discharged it will blink red, and if you start charging it will show red until the charge reaches a certain point and then turn blue, then as charging proceeds it will turn green and finally when fully charged the light will turn off. So there should be no light at all when fully charged.

I realize that you can use escribe software to change light colors, but if you haven't done that then there should be no light on at all when charging is finished.

Are you sure you have fully charged the Orion and not just disconnected it before the full charge completed?
 

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I don't understand this. The way the Orion comes from the factory is that if the battery is fully discharged it will blink red, and if you start charging it will show red until the charge reaches a certain point and then turn blue, then as charging proceeds it will turn green and finally when fully charged the light will turn off. So there should be no light at all when fully charged.

I realize that you can use escribe software to change light colors, but if you haven't done that then there should be no light on at all when charging is finished.

Are you sure you have fully charged the Orion and not just disconnected it before the full charge completed?

From my experience with the orion when the light turns a greenish blue color and is no longer pulsing, the mod is fully charged. After about 30 minutes or so the charging indicator turns off compleatly. Escribe shows mine as fully charged before the charging indicator turns off.

I've experienced what @daisyd is talking about also though. After plugging in the orion the charge indicator turns red, pulses once or twice, then imidiately turns greenish blue as if it where showing 90%+ charge. It's some kind of charging error. In my case I plugged it with a different cable and wall wort and it charged just fine. I don't think the surge protector has anything to do with it. I had the charger plugged into the a surge protector when I experienced the error.
 

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Well, hello @HBcorpse!
I haven't seen you around these parts of town before, and now you're inviting someone to the party! What party?
And I hope you're well.

Howdy NY!!!

Got an Orion back in September...

Didn’t know there was a thread until I was doing some Google-Fu to find a rebuild option!

Invited @stanleybb50 because he just found the message I sent him about the Orion, back in September, and is very interested in the device.

How have you been?

I’ve been in LURK mode on most threads.

The ECF is just sadly too quiet these days.
 

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From my experience with the orion when the light turns a greenish blue color and is no longer pulsing, the mod is fully charged. After about 30 minutes or so the charging indicator turns off compleatly. Escribe shows mine as fully charged before the charging indicator turns off.

I've experienced what @daisyd is talking about also though. After plugging in the orion the charge indicator turns red, pulses once or twice, then imidiately turns greenish blue as if it where showing 90%+ charge. It's some kind of charging error. In my case I plugged it with a different cable and wall wort and it charged just fine. I don't think the surge protector has anything to do with it. I had the charger plugged into the a surge protector when I experienced the error.
You're absolutely right. I got the surge protector (it has usb ports) and plugged it in with the cable I had in the bedroom. It did the same thing. I brought the cable I was using in the other room in and it worked just fine. The one that works came with my last android, so it is a fast charging cable but it's a bit frayed. I have no idea about the other one. I thought it was a fast charger too. It's kind of annoying not knowing what kind of cable I need, but I'll try to do some process of elimination this weekend.
 
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It's kind of annoying not knowing what kind of cable I need, but I'll try to do some process of elimination this weekend.

I had read something about some USB cables not working with the Orion. Not only charging problems but also not working with escribe. So I went with the one that comes with the Orion and have not had any problems with either of my Lost Vape mods. Also I like to run escribe monitor when charging so I am charging via my laptop.
 

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I had read something about some USB cables not working with the Orion. Not only charging problems but also not working with escribe. So I went with the one that comes with the Orion and have not had any problems with either of my Lost Vape mods. Also I like to run escribe monitor when charging so I am charging via my laptop.
It's just so flippin short though. I'll check, but I don't think it'll even reach my nightstand from the port. If they're going to make it picky, they at least need to include a longer cable.
 
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From my experience with the orion when the light turns a greenish blue color and is no longer pulsing, the mod is fully charged. After about 30 minutes or so the charging indicator turns off compleatly. Escribe shows mine as fully charged before the charging indicator turns off.

I've experienced what @daisyd is talking about also though. After plugging in the orion the charge indicator turns red, pulses once or twice, then imidiately turns greenish blue as if it where showing 90%+ charge. It's some kind of charging error. In my case I plugged it with a different cable and wall wort and it charged just fine. I don't think the surge protector has anything to do with it. I had the charger plugged into the a surge protector when I experienced the error.

I did some testing after reading your post (good post BTW) and found that neither of my 2 Orion's achieve 100% charge. The oldest one only charges to 92% (See pic attached), and the newest one purchased a month ago and has very little use only charges to 94%. I guess that answers the question of why I never see the blue light that would indicate 95~100% charge. Both 92 and 94% correctly show the green light.

So the DNA Go chip is very accurate in measuring battery charge level, but the batteries are rather sub-standard from Lost Vape. They still work well, but I would like to see that bit of extra run time. It might be time to investigate a higher quality battery replacement.

I would be interested to see what others fine with their charge levels. It might be a common issue, or I might just be a little low on luck. Just in case I plan to stay away from Vegas for a while :)

Orion Full Charge.jpg
 

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My Orion has a Turnigy Nano-tech 750 mah NE-BA931. The board is most likely under reporting the voltage of the cell. The charger on board is stand alone so this is not any kind of safety issue. If you were to charge it from below 4.1 volts and not interfere with it (firing, ect) and check the voltage of the cell with a meter it will most likely be 4.2 volts even though EScribe reports it at 4.13 volts (approx).
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My Orion has a Turnigy Nano-tech 750 mah NE-BA931. The board is most likely under reporting the voltage of the cell. The charger on board is stand alone so this is not any kind of safety issue. If you were to charge it from below 4.1 volts and not interfere with it (firing, ect) and check the voltage of the cell with a meter it will most likely be 4.2 volts even though EScribe reports it at 4.13 volts (approx).
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If charging is interrupted above 4.1 volts the charger won't start again till the voltage drops below 4.1 volts.
 
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If charging is interrupted above 4.1 volts the charger won't start again till the voltage drops below 4.1 volts.

So I guess your interpretation is that the voltage measurement of the DNA Go is flawed and that's why I have never seen a blue 95 to 100% light on either of the 2 mods at charge completion. Fair enough. I'll do some more device monitoring and see if that's the case.

And just to be clear, the picture in my last post was at charge completion, hence the 0 amps shown but it did charge prior to that point. I didn't record the entire charge, just a screenshot of the end of charge.
 
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Another thing Jazzman, did you know your batteries will last twice as long only charging up to 4.10v? Although you sacrifice that small added capacity.

I do realize that Billw50, but with a device that's already challenging to last all day on a single charge I would rather see 4.2v after charge. That additional 8% would be at least helpful. Plus, if 4.1v was the intent, I would see a blue light at charge completion at a lower voltage. With a device that's less than a month old and has not been used much that never achieves the intended full charge it does make me question the quality of the battery or possibly the charging algorithm.

All in all, I absolutely love this device for many different reasons. So I'm not complaining really. It just surprised me after seeing another users experience with seeing a blue light at the end of charge, a light I've never seen on either of my devices. So don't read into this that I'm dissatisfied because I'm not. But I did wonder if this was common or if I was doing something wrong. Either way... great device I would buy again.
 
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