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Lounging By The Beach - Part 7

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As is a lot of the stuff we read about ecigs. I do hope it is not true....especially if it keeps you off cigarettes. But I suspect you will stay off tobacco cigarettes, since you cannot tinker with them. :D

From Reddit about Cinnamon...

I sent a link of this (whatever "study" was used that started this last November) to my partner who is a molecular biologist that teaches at a college. The Prof. said the full version can be accessed at work tomorrow. (you and I can't see them without an account, as they are for professionals)

The Prof. says, from what can be read in the summary, "The study is invalid because they used human embryonic stem cells as opposed to adult human pulmonary fibroblasts. The embryonic stem cells are inherently more susceptible to pathology than mature adult cells. In order for the study to be valid they need to use cells that are comparable."


Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos had already previously identified the increase in cytotoxicity of both a cinnamon flavored vapor and liquids processed with tobacco. The cinnamon flavored vapor was cytotoxic at 100% concentration only, whereas cigarette smoke was cytotoxic at 6.25% concentration. Liquids processed with tobacco was cytotoxic at 100% and 50% concentrations. I highly suggest that you read his excellent research paper that I liked above.

It may be prudent to avoid cinnamon flavored liquids and especially liquids processed with tobacco leaves. Either way, they are still an order of magnitude better for you than cigarette smoke, so you can take that for better or worse.

And Dr. Farsalinos makes the full text of his studies available for free, which is nice. :)


If any of you are looking for a nice smooth tobacco with great flavor and vapor....I would suggest NLV "Gold". And it is clear!! I think I may have finally found my go to supplier. The only fault is the plastic bottles....but they are dark so that light does not penetrate. I will probably pour mine into glass bottles with eye dropper lids.

VG...you need to try this, and add just a drop or two of your CRH.....I think you would love it!

I didn't care for any of the Tobacco flavors I tried about a year and a half ago. But they were either from the El Cheapo eGo Kits that the Rip Off Artist here was selling, or from his stock. Something that is a higher quality might be OK. But I'd definitely transfer them into glass, as I have found that plastic seems to leach something into the juices. IDK if leaching is the right word, but it changes the flavor.
 

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From Reddit about Cinnamon...






Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos had already previously identified the increase in cytotoxicity of both a cinnamon flavored vapor and liquids processed with tobacco. The cinnamon flavored vapor was cytotoxic at 100% concentration only, whereas cigarette smoke was cytotoxic at 6.25% concentration. Liquids processed with tobacco was cytotoxic at 100% and 50% concentrations. I highly suggest that you read his excellent research paper that I liked above.

It may be prudent to avoid cinnamon flavored liquids and especially liquids processed with tobacco leaves. Either way, they are still an order of magnitude better for you than cigarette smoke, so you can take that for better or worse


I didn't care for any of the Tobacco flavors I tried about a year and a half ago. But they were either from the El Cheapo eGo Kits that the Rip Off Artist here was selling, or from his stock. Something that is a higher quality might be OK. But I'd definitely transfer them into glass, as I have found that plastic seems to leach something into the juices. IDK if leaching is the right word, but it changes the flavor.


Wow! Thanks for all the information! The one good thing in our favor is that the DW doesn't usually stick with a flavor for long!! Usually after about 3-5 days, she tires of it and wants something else (part of the reason I got into DIY!).
I started with tobacco flavors and vaped one that was simply called "Tobacco." Some cheap blend that the local B&M had. Then I discovered berry flavors!!! Now the only one I use that has tobacco is MBV's Blu-Bacco, which I think is actually made with carmel, not tobacco extract.

Again, thanks for all the info!
 

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The way life usually is if the man is allowed in the kitchen.......:laugh:

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This is son before he got married. After he FINALLY he learned to be a lot neater.

Catching up and then off to use the little tiller to get rid of weeds and then the pool.
 

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Wow! Thanks for all the information! The one good thing in our favor is that the DW doesn't usually stick with a flavor for long!! Usually after about 3-5 days, she tires of it and wants something else (part of the reason I got into DIY!).
I started with tobacco flavors and vaped one that was simply called "Tobacco." Some cheap blend that the local B&M had. Then I discovered berry flavors!!! Now the only one I use that has tobacco is MBV's Blu-Bacco, which I think is actually made with carmel, not tobacco extract.

Again, thanks for all the info!

You're welcome. Glad you found it useful. :)
 

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From Reddit about Cinnamon...

I sent a link of this (whatever "study" was used that started this last November) to my partner who is a molecular biologist that teaches at a college. The Prof. said the full version can be accessed at work tomorrow. (you and I can't see them without an account, as they are for professionals)

The Prof. says, from what can be read in the summary, "The study is invalid because they used human embryonic stem cells as opposed to adult human pulmonary fibroblasts. The embryonic stem cells are inherently more susceptible to pathology than mature adult cells. In order for the study to be valid they need to use cells that are comparable."


Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos had already previously identified the increase in cytotoxicity of both a cinnamon flavored vapor and liquids processed with tobacco. The cinnamon flavored vapor was cytotoxic at 100% concentration only, whereas cigarette smoke was cytotoxic at 6.25% concentration. Liquids processed with tobacco was cytotoxic at 100% and 50% concentrations. I highly suggest that you read his excellent research paper that I liked above.

It may be prudent to avoid cinnamon flavored liquids and especially liquids processed with tobacco leaves. Either way, they are still an order of magnitude better for you than cigarette smoke, so you can take that for better or worse.

And Dr. Farsalinos makes the full text of his studies available for free, which is nice. :)




I didn't care for any of the Tobacco flavors I tried about a year and a half ago. But they were either from the El Cheapo eGo Kits that the Rip Off Artist here was selling, or from his stock. Something that is a higher quality might be OK. But I'd definitely transfer them into glass, as I have found that plastic seems to leach something into the juices. IDK if leaching is the right word, but it changes the flavor.

The tobacco flavors have come a long way recently.....I think you will like what I send you. I never could even stomach the smell of the "tobacco" juices when I started vaping....as far from tobacco as you could get....smelled and tasted like the smell from dirty, old, sweaty, socks from a boy's locker. The ones they only take home to wash when school was letting out for the summer. :facepalm:

But now....the good ones are clean and very reminiscent of the smell of a freshly opened pack of cigarettes. I have two in mind to let you try when the next pkg. of used coils are sent. I love the NETs, but they are too dark for my cartos and my coils so I quit using them. I want clear or very light juice only.
 

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    Time to get out of the night shirt and into the shower. Have already informed hubs he is taking me out tonight. Could not think of a thing here that sounded good for dinner. I got the laundry all done, and the house as clean as it gets....I deserve it. :D

    See you later tonight.
    Have a good time Glam! :)
     

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    One more thing...VG, could you please research Innokin Coolfire1 and see if that is something I would like. I have researched them pretty extensively, and the only thing that concerns me is the fixed wattage is at 8.....and my coils are 1.7ohms. That maybe a little too high for them...what do you think? I do like the fact that they are something you can attach your atty to with no fiddling. And a little more oomp than a straight 3.7 volt. I am still waiting for a self adjusting voltage/wattage p.v. that adjusts itself to whatever you attach. Simplistic...yeah!! :laugh:

    Please and thank you. :)
     

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    The tobacco flavors have come a long way recently.....I think you will like what I send you. I never could even stomach the smell of the "tobacco" juices when I started vaping....as far from tobacco as you could get....smelled and tasted like the smell from dirty, old, sweaty, socks from a boy's locker. The ones they only take home to wash when school was letting out for the summer. :facepalm:

    But now....the good ones are clean and very reminiscent of the smell of a freshly opened pack of cigarettes. I have two in mind to let you try when the next pkg. of used coils are sent. I love the NETs, but they are too dark for my cartos and my coils so I quit using them. I want clear or very light juice only.

    The boys bring home their old, stinky, used socks from their locker, and you are sending me old, stinky, used ARO Heads from your storage box. :lol: Does anyone aside from me see a correlation here? :laugh:

    If you are going to send some tobacco juices, just send a small amount. If I like them, I can try to find the flavorings to DIY them. I tried that halo tobacco juice called Southern Classic that I told you about. It was pretty good, but it's a blend of things, and not a straight tobacco, so I'm willing to give yours a fair shot. And I think we vape the same nic level at about 6mg.

    Time to get out of the night shirt and into the shower. Have already informed hubs he is taking me out tonight. Could not think of a thing here that sounded good for dinner. I got the laundry all done, and the house as clean as it gets....I deserve it. :D

    See you later tonight.

    You said he usually wants something when he invites you out to dinner. So... what is it that you want? A credit card spree on Amazon? :D
     
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