Low vapour production from an ego type battery

[NealBJr]

I gave up vaping in 2013 due to the type battery you have. Personally I just don't think that much of them.
So many good devices now and cheap. You could get an istick 30 for probably $30, that would outdue the ego battery all day long.
Also with a high pg base liquid you will get less vapor. Good luck!

It's not all about better or bigger vapor production. I use my EGOs while in the car with my family. I also have a 160w mod with a tri-coil... If I vape that in the car, it clouds up the car quite a bit. I normally am a pseudo-tootie puffer.. I like .7-1.0 ohm builds.. medium clouds. But, while in the car, I am considerate of others, and fill my egos with a nigh nic juice (for me that is) and forgo the massive clouds.

I agree, for starters, it's best to go with a medium device, since they can be throttled down. but sometimes the simplicity and low power of an ego can be an asset.

 

[Pearl B]

It's not all about better or bigger vapor production. I use my EGOs while in the car with my family. I also have a 160w mod with a tri-coil... If I vape that in the car, it clouds up the car quite a bit. I normally am a pseudo-tootie puffer.. I like .7-1.0 ohm builds.. medium clouds. But, while in the car, I am considerate of others, and fill my egos with a nigh nic juice (for me that is) and forgo the massive clouds.

I agree, for starters, it's best to go with a medium device, since they can be throttled down. but sometimes the simplicity and low power of an ego can be an asset.

Sometimes a low power device can come in handy. At the time it was all I was aware of and I thought if this is as good as it gets, it's not for me
I didn't know there even was such a thing as big clouds back then, or building your own coils. I didn't watch much YouTube either.
Perhaps I should have tried other devices, at that time, 2013, I figured they were likely pretty much the same.

 

[VapeViv]

Thanks for all the advice everyone. It has been really helpful. I contacted vaporfi who confirmed the battery must be faulty (because of the low life after fully charged). They're sending me a new one so hopefully this fixes all the issues.

 

[Racehorse]

both 1.8 oms, double coil bottom feeder

Double coils with ego battery doesn't work too well.

I get huge clouds and plenty of vapor using single coils on ego type batts.....and even not using VV egos.

 

[VapeViv]

pulling out my EGO battery (I still use one occasionally) This is about the vapor production you should be getting:

The device I am using is pretty close to what you're using. It's a protank II on a 1300MaH ego battery.. it uses coils much like yours, and should output about the same power. If you're not getting about this much, then I suggest you contact VaporFi.. The only thing I can guess is the battery may not be putting out the full power. Also, make sure everything is cleaned.. contacts, atomizer, etc.

Yeah, definitely not getting nearly that much... Also, maybe their cig-alikes (also from vaporfi) ate exeptionally good?

 

[Racehorse]

The device I am using is pretty close to what you're using. It's a protank II on a 1300MaH ego battery.. it uses coils much like yours,

Protank 2 coils are single coils.

same coils that evod clearomizer takes.

That is why they work great on ego batt.

I think the OP was using double coils on an ego batt. Though the batt appears to maybe be faulty, you are still not gonna get a good vape using double coils on an ego batt, unless you can turn it way up....and then the batt doesn't last very long off a charge.

I know some people use double coils on ego batts but i have never found it to be a very good vape as a low ohm single coil.

 

[NealBJr]

Protank 2 coils are single coils.

same coils that evod clearomizer takes.

That is why they work great on ego batt.

I said pretty much like them.. yes, they are single coil, but they look ever so slightly different. But yea, they basically are the same. I do rebuild those coils myself, and I have a roll of 32 gauge kanthal just for the EGO batteries.

 

[VapeViv]

Protank 2 coils are single coils.

same coils that evod clearomizer takes.

That is why they work great on ego batt.

I think the OP was using double coils on an ego batt. Though the batt appears to maybe be faulty, you are still not gonna get a good vape using double coils on an ego batt, unless you can turn it way up....and then the batt doesn't last very long off a charge.

Hmmm... Ok, I'll try to get a single coil. These double coils are the ones that came with the kit and the ones vaporfi sells specifically for those tanks, so I figured they should have worked fine . Live and learn!

 

[Racehorse]

Thanks everyone, I do think I might have gotten a bad battery. It doesn't seem to last very long. How long should I get of a battery like this when chain vaping?

chain vaping on an ego batt with a double coil.......not long.

though your batt "may" be faulty, a double coil is gonna require you turn your volts up, and when you are doing that, your batt is not going to last long. 1300 mah spinner for instance, nowhere near the 8-10 hours you might get on single coil using lower voltage. I'm gonna say you're lucky to get about 4 hours .......

Hey, let them replace your batt, and then use the same coils and see what happens.

I am someone who uses ego batts pretty much exclusively, had an istick and provari and many many other mods but I just got stuck in the habit of my little egos. I did try a nautilus on it recently, the vapor was very poor......ego batts aren't great at powering anything over a single coil but that is just my opinion.

I like some snap crackle and pop and I get that with a 1.8ohm single coil on ego batt......sometimes I use 2.2ohm. .......and I didn't get any better vapor using an istick w/nautilus (although it did feel a lot "hotter" which I did not like) so decided to stick to my cheapo stuff.

The battery will last a whole lot longer using single coils, esp. 2.2ohm AND you will consume a lot less ejuice, cuz those double and triple coils drink up your ejuice like crazy.

I think that is why people using ego batts are still using kanger T3S, evod, protanks, etc. because the single coils just "go with". Historically, when egos came out those were the clearos that came out too........the double coils and more sophisticated clearos came out when the more powerful batteries arrived on the scene.

However, if you are looking for "more".....you may end up upgrading as not everyone can "get" what they need to get using egos. You may love an istick w/GS Air or Nautilus, most people seem to like that combo, and it's cheap.

 

[NealBJr]

Yeah, definitely not getting nearly that much... Also, maybe their cig-alikes (also from vaporfi) ate exeptionally good?

Don't know.. but I tend to stay away from Cigalikes. Because of their small size, the vapor production and battery life are MUCH less. not to mention that it's on the expensive side of vaping since the cartriges usually come rebuilt. I would stick with at least the ego for now.

 

[Racehorse]

http://www.vaporfi.com/electronic-cigarettes/vaporfi-pro-ii-starter-kit-colors.html

http://www.vaporfi.com/accessories/tanks/vaporfi-platinum-ii-tank.html

I am not familiar with vaporfi brand------ but looks like a rebranded kanger evod battery to me.

Is it variable voltage? It doesn't say on there, only that it is a 3.7volt battery It also doesn't say that the clearomizer is using dual coils......it actually looks like a rebranded protank II. THe closeup of the coil says 2.2ohm, and looks exactly like a single coil evod / protank coil.

the vapor production Neal is getting looks about right for an ego batt and protank II single coil.

 

[VapeViv]

I am not familiar with vaporfi brand------ but looks like a rebranded kanger evod battery to me.

Is it variable voltage? It doesn't say on there, only that it is a 3.7volt battery It also doesn't say that the clearomizer is using dual coils.

Yeah, it's a VV battery... I've also been looking at the specifications and you are right, it does seem like it's a single coil after all... Not sure where I got the idea that it was a double coil... Thought I had read it somewhere.

 

[Racehorse]

Yeah, it's a VV battery... I've also been looking at the specifications and you are right, it does seem like it's a single coil after all... Not sure where I got the idea that it was a double coil... Thought I had read it somewhere.

Okay, well let them replace your battery. Go from there. You may also have gotten a bad pack of coils......it happens.

I dont think you made a bad choice at all for a starter device. I'm 3+ years into vaping and still use that stuff. It's a pleasant vape and I quit smoking on something much worse (non VV battery with a cartomizer!). Back in 2012 the Ego Twist was just hitting the shelves, and people were using cartos and then the Vivi Nova came out wheeeeeeeee!
(people have forgotten, OR, they are new vapers and dont' realize just how many of us quit smoking and successfully switched to vaping using a device way less powerful than what you are using. _)

You made an investment and it should get you by for a while with no problem. Even if you eventually get other stuff, these can be your back up or your "out on errands" vape.

Good luck w/your replacement. Let us know how it goes.

 

[markfm]

High vg content, clouds of Vapor, isn't for everyone. What many of us used a couple years back to get off cigarettes was higher pg content. High vg (no pg) was a small niche, mainly for the small % of people with pg sensitivity.

What I've used for years is a 70/30 mix. The first number means there is around 70% propylene glycol (pg) in the liquid, while the second number means 30% vg (vegetable glycerine).

Vg is used for "lung hit ", bigger clouds of visible Vapor.

Higher pg liquid, anywhere from 70 - 80%, on atomizers/cartomizers/tanks with 1.8 - 2.5 ohm resistance, can work well on lower power devices.

My own setup uses 4.5 - 5v, with 2.5 - 3 ohm cartos. I get good run time, decent Vapor (though not big clouds), at relatively low power.

I've been vaping like this over 5 years, after 37 years smoking.

My gear cost is low, and running at lower power my eliquid cost is also lower than someone running higher power and low resistance (I run through less eliquid per day, even though I vape a lot, including at work).

Lots of choices, whatever keeps you away from cigarettes is a win

Good luck!

 

[GeorgeS]

Chain vaping on a eGo type battery? I would not expect more than ~5hrs use (no matter dual or single coil) and even less on the <900mAh batteries. I could easily drain mine in less than 3hrs of continuous use.

My personal experience with the Aspire coils/tanks with 1.8ohm coils is with ~5V you should be getting fairly decent output (like the other user showed in the picture) for the type of device it is.

While using 1.5-2ml tanks I can't recall which would usually run out first - the battery or juice in the tank. I think it was a fairly close match that on any given day one would last very slightly longer than the other one. If your battery dies long before you've vaped 1.5ml of juice then I think your battery is the problem.

 

[NealBJr]

I am someone who uses ego batts pretty much exclusively, had an istick and provari and many many other mods but I just got stuck in the habit of my little egos. I did try a nautilus on it recently, the vapor was very poor......ego batts aren't great at powering anything over a single coil but that is just my opinion.

I will second that. At one time, I bought a tiny dripping atomizer designed for an ego.. yes, that thing was TINY. I tried dual coils, but I came to the same conclusion as you... ego's... even the twists, are designed for single coils only.

Higher pg liquid, anywhere from 70 - 80%, on atomizers/cartomizers/tanks with 1.8 - 2.5 ohm resistance, can work well on lower power devices.

I found with stock coils and silica, higher PG based liquids are the must. Even when I rebuilt the silica, it just doesn't wick like cotton. I now rebuild protank coils with cotton and use an 80-90% VG juice. no dry hits, no gurgles. It's not something I recommend to the newer folk, but I have a system down that works quite well.

My gear cost is low, and running at lower power my eliquid cost is also lower than someone running higher power and low resistance (I run through less eliquid per day, even though I vape a lot, including at work).

That is so true. I have a TFv3 coil.. holds 4 ml of juice... if I vape like that like normal, It goes through 4ml in about 3 hours. My protank 2 holds 1.6ml of juice, and vaping that, it'll last about the same... 3 hours.. Single coil Rebuildable Taifun on temp control... about 5 ml in about 7 hours... ohms and power definitely alter juice consumption. And to be quite honest, if I'm just looking for flavor, the Protank II gives almost as much flavor as the TFv3... Not as warm or not a "mouthfull".. but enough. I kind of think of it this way... it's like eating 3 skittles at a time, or putting half a bag in your mouth... sometimes just three is enough.

 

[dcdozer]

Thanks for all the advice everyone. It has been really helpful. I contac]
ted vaporfi who confirmed the battery must be faulty (because of the low life after fully charged). They're sending me a new one so hopefully this fixes all the issues.

Thanks for all the advice everyone. It has been really helpful. I contacted vaporfi who confirmed the battery must be faulty (because of the low life after fully charged). They're sending me a new one so hopefully this fixes all the issues.

This is how VaporFi justifies their ridiculously high prices...their customer service is truly amazing...but they can afford to send out "freebies" to replace bad parts because they are gouging all of the newbies that buy from them when they come up as the best company on google searches. I know because I fell for it too!

 

[VapeViv]

Could a faulty coil also make the battery drain faster? I'm suspecting this might be playing a part as the clearomizer tank performs way worse than the platinum. I know the platinum is supposed to be better anyway, but I'm getting about 10% of the vapour from it that I get with the platinum... So maybe this is also draining the battery faster?

 

[djsvapour]

Thanks for all the advice everyone. It has been really helpful. I contacted vaporfi who confirmed the battery must be faulty (because of the low life after fully charged). They're sending me a new one so hopefully this fixes all the issues.

This is good news. Take what they offer and then ship on out of there forever.

Adiós a los malos desperdicios, as we say in Europe.

 

[VapeViv]

This is good news. Take what they offer and then ship on out of there forever.

Adiós a los malos desperdicios, as we say in Europe.

Yes, I definitely won't be buying from them again... Live and learn I guess. I've also now realised why their reviews are so great. I've tried twice now to make a review for one of their juices (not a very good review) and it has not been posted. They seem to filter out their bad reviews, it seems like, because once you submit the review it says something like "you'll receive one point once your review has been approved"... It's been about a week since I submitted the first review...