Seems like the lower Ohm 510 is a huge step in the right direction for 3.7v vaping.. Just wondering if it would be possibe to apply this theory to the KR808 cartos over time? I would love to be able to use a smaller device (3.7) while being out but after using them at 5 and 6 volt at home and at work it is a big difference dropping back down to cartos at 3.7 volts.
Lower Ohm KR808
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There *are* some new lower resistance KR808 cartos out there right now. But don't get too hung up on the idea of simply lowering resistance and increasing wattage as the only solution to better vaping. It certainly works (the LR atty is fine example, and I'm loving it!) but there is more than one way to skin a cat! There is actually another new design out there that operates at a slightly HIGHER resistance, and still performs similarly to the higher wattage solution.
The advantage of lower ohm resistors is that they allow you to get 8W with a single battery. This is considerably better from a safety standpoint as it eliminates the need to stack batteries which can cause lithium batteries to fail or even explode. The Xhaler (and similar HV capable mods) is vented to prevent this type of explosion, and unprotected batteries are NOT recommended. The Xhaler has an added safety measure in the spring will heat up and collapse if it shorts as well.
i am like jgrubb i would love to get some Low resistance KR808 cartos.
i know of 1 place but wont mention it. any of you guys know of some places and what ohms they are? I know you cant post it but please send me a pm. i dont care how many pm s i get. i need to find a LOW RES KR808 carto. dam i wish greencig did this but they give so much vapor already but after this low res thing i think they have the greencigs beat. but the greencigs are still very smooth and you just cant kill a carto for quite some time. i have some cartos going since Oct still.
anyway anyone know of any LR cartos please let me know.
and to Jazzguy tell me more about the adding a bit more resistance to get a 3.7 battery act like a 5v or 6 volt. do you know of anyone that makes these cartos. Please pm me.
Only reason i said to PM me is cause it is not right to post other suppliers on Nhalers forum. and i love Drew so wouldnt want to do anything wrong man. Drew just make us some KR808 cartos with Low resistance man. lol
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i know of 1 place but wont mention it. any of you guys know of some places and what ohms they are? I know you cant post it but please send me a pm. i dont care how many pm s i get. i need to find a LOW RES KR808 carto. dam i wish greencig did this but they give so much vapor already but after this low res thing i think they have the greencigs beat. but the greencigs are still very smooth and you just cant kill a carto for quite some time. i have some cartos going since Oct still.
anyway anyone know of any LR cartos please let me know.
and to Jazzguy tell me more about the adding a bit more resistance to get a 3.7 battery act like a 5v or 6 volt. do you know of anyone that makes these cartos. Please pm me.
Only reason i said to PM me is cause it is not right to post other suppliers on Nhalers forum. and i love Drew so wouldnt want to do anything wrong man. Drew just make us some KR808 cartos with Low resistance man. lol
Thanks
.Cos
Absolutely understood. My point was that increasing the wattage to closer to 8-10 is not the ONLY way to get lovely, tasty, warm vapor. There is a new design out there that operates at a HIGHER resistance (and thus a lower load on the battery) but utilizes other tricks (I'm guessing airflow and perhaps some trickery to more efficiently vaporize the liquid) to produce the voluminous warm vapor that we associate with 8-10 watt vaping.
Cos - PM on the way!
Well, that depends on the battery it's connected to!
The one I'm referring to runs at 3.4Ω, so wattage at 3.7V is only 4.026 or so. Not an impressive number, I know. But they billow lots of warm vapor and great flavor by utilizing their other tricks. You might not believe it, and I probably wouldn't unless I'd tried it at length myself, but it far outperforms standard cartos that run at 3.0Ω. It compares quite favorably to a standard carto on a 5V passtrhough.
At 6V, the wattage is 10.588. For my preferences, I have to stick with very short button presses, and I'm used to 3-4 second draws, so I prefer it on lower voltages, but everyone has their own preferences.
3.4ohm is pretty normal resistance for atomizers, actually. I know that on Carlos' Juice Box, he uses a proprietary atomizer that allegedly is a great vapor producer as well. I say "allegedly" because I haven't tried it yet, but I hope to get one.
Although I think that referring to wattage is probably a more accurate measurement than voltage...I suspect that neither is going to be accurate because the actual resistance (and hence, wattage) is changed by the presence or lack of liquid.
For atomizers, yes. But we were talking about cartomizers, which until recently were only available in one configuration, ~3.0Ω. In the case of the design that operates at 3.4, that .4 difference is more than 10% *higher*, which is counterintuitive for producing more vapor (because of the mindset that closer to 10 watts = sweet spot - although all other factors being equal-ish, it's still a good indicator). Thus the OP's question about lower resistance cartomizers. Now you can take a LR cartomizer at ~2.3Ω and compare it with a different design cartomizer at 3.4Ω, and although there's a BIG difference in resistance, performance is just about the same on a given battery. That wouldn't make sense if you are of the school of thought that 8-10 watts is what you NEED to have to produce the best vapor and flavor.
I totally agree with you - there is much more at play than simple wattage, which was the point I was trying to make to begin with. I think we've all seen atomizers that are the same brand, same resistance, etc that either over-perform or underperform in comparison to their brothers.
NOT to say targeting wattage is not a good way to go about things (as I quite happily puff on one of Drew's new 1.5Ω LR atties connected to my Xhaler at 3.7V...yummmm). I'm just saying it's not the *only* way, because as you say - other factors can and do come into the equation.
I apologize if I wasn't clear, and I hope I made more sense this time around!
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