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Yes, it's time to update some older videos with new, well lit examples of great builds for this kick AYuss little atty that all REO owners should own atleast 1 of. It's the best atty for squonk noobs and even the most seasoned vapers just rave about the ease of build and quality of vape this little jewel provides.

Well, bear with me as I torture you for the next 30 odd minutes with how I do it :)

http://youtu.be/cFlaMfFgsw0

Thanks for watching :)
 

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Thanks for the new video! It's great, I did a rebuild after watching it and came in at 1.04 I think. Only had 28 and 26 gage wire. Loving the vape. 20141123_112851.jpg
 

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As usual, excellent video. Great information, humor, easy to understand' I had to wait to see it. It is long and on my internet connection, it took forever to get it but it was worth the wait. I have the Odin on order, upon the SXD imprimatur, and I am looking forward to it; sadly, being a holiday week, I'm not sure when it will arrive.
 

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Great video my man! Even though you may block some angles you are still the bomb diggity! Hey thanks for telling me about Sterno. I PMed him asking where he got those little LED screens and he told me ebay. I searched and found them instantly. $4 bucks shipped from Texas! Cant wait for that little jewel, much much smaller than carrying my multimeter! Hey btw, at around 31 minutes my screen turned green in your video. Not sure if you can fix it but just lettin ya know. Only stayed green for a second or two.. I enjoy every single video, even if i didn't "need" the info, i still watched every single one. Vape on brotha!

My love- Kawa Reo LP w/ TRA SL door & LokiLab Odin.. Mmm Mmm
 

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Thank you Rob :). That is a great compliment. If you want to shoot me RM3, 4 , 5 and 6 I can video all of them and send em right back to you bro. If I fall in love with any ill just buy em :)

the RM3 is a heck of an atty for me anyway. Got the dual version recently and really enjoy it. The perfect draw for a mtl hitter like me.

super, you remind me of a guy we recently lost in my other forum home (he quit vaping :confused:). It is a big loss to our GG family. Always ready to lend a helping hand.
Don't ever quit vaping. Reonuts and the vaping world wouldn't be the same without you.
 

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Great video Russ. Thanks for taking the time to feature the RM2. Camera clarity is awesome. Don't know if I'd put my Ohm meter on a tri-pod like that though. Looked like it would fall over easily. One big spill on the hard surface, and it's most likely gone. ;)

I use the same 29g, and also find it to be fast to heat up; fast to cool down. Usually wrap it on a #50 drill bit or 5/64 drill bit. Both produce great flavor and vapor for my style of vaping.

The Odin is obviously your choice of atty, but where does the RM2 rate on a scale of 1-10 when it comes to flavor and vapor?
 

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Great video Russ. Thanks for taking the time to feature the RM2. Camera clarity is awesome. Don't know if I'd put my Ohm meter on a tri-pod like that though. Looked like it would fall over easily. One big spill on the hard surface, and it's most likely gone. ;)

I use the same 29g, and also find it to be fast to heat up; fast to cool down. Usually wrap it on a #50 drill bit or 5/64 drill bit. Both produce great flavor and vapor for my style of vaping.

The Odin is obviously your choice of atty, but where does the RM2 rate on a scale of 1-10 when it comes to flavor and vapor?

Thank you. I give The RM2 a 10 with flavor and an 7 with vapor when compared with the Odin. The Odin gets a 10-10. But it's important to remember that the Odin has dual AFC and dual coils. The Odin is also the only dual coil dual AFC I've ever run. Before that all my attys were 14mm single coil attys like RM2, cyclone, chalice.

The vapor advantage to the Odin is attributed to having 2 coils wrapped to the same specs as the one I put in the RM2. They are both producing their own vapor and both getting steady stream of air from the wide open air slots right in front of them.

The air on the RM2 can be one opened up to cool a lower res coil and produce plenty of vapor - prolly putting it up in the 8 range against the Odin.

I don't like a hot vape. I tend to look at a build like a two strike dirtbike:

Putting in Dual coils are like getting that new FMF gold series exhaust / shorty silencer. But now you got to open up the air box to optimize flow (open AFC) Then you got to rejet (wide bore drip tip). All those variables will affect heat and vapor. If a dual coil is restricted by not enough air in, you get a hotter, less vaporious vape (lean condition).

Once you dial in the intake, now you got to get all that vapor out efficiently with a wider bore drip tip to equalize things. Once it's all in tune, you are ripping direct lung at the same heat as your single coil but the looseness of the open AFC is negated by the thickness of the vapor.

I use as much / little juice with my duals because they are built efficiently. The wire heats and cools quickly. That's often overlooked by those who just think "thick wire is the manly stuff". Well I think of efficiency. If something takes longer to heat up you are preheating juice (while it's coming up to temp) but not really vaporizing it (waste) and what takes longer to heat up takes longer to cool down (waste and gunk) This creates what I call the rich condition in dirtbike analogy. Most coil gunking (plug fouling) problems are more likely a result of inefficient builds with wire that is heavier than the application demands and juice is carmelizing on the coil after the throttle is closed because that mass o thick wire is still cooking but no air is there to cool it because the rider is no longer on the bike (hitting the mod). These are just my theories though.

It's also important to note that my flavor is unflavored 10 mg nic in mostly all VG.

Whilst the Odin looks large and has ample space for dual coils, the chamber is quite small. It can also accommodate a single coil and the AFC is engineered such that it can be used as single coil AFC. That's why I got one. I intended to use it as single coil but once I saw how easy it was to install a second coil and how that second coil gave the vapor significant amplitude, I was ruined.
 
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the RM3 is a heck of an atty for me anyway. Got the dual version recently and really enjoy it. The perfect draw for a mtl hitter like me.

super, you remind me of a guy we recently lost in my other forum home (he quit vaping :confused:). It is a big loss to our GG family. Always ready to lend a helping hand.
Don't ever quit vaping. Reonuts and the vaping world wouldn't be the same without you.

I don't see myself EVER quitting vaping. I'm just getting started :)

Thank you. I don't know how much I actually help but I know my hands are clumsy as hell. But I did install this on Saturday in my just turned 12 year old daughters room for her birthday. I can deal electronics well (lights, fans, audio / video hookup) :) oh, yes, she did get to assemble the bling portions - all the chains and dangly things. I woulda smashed that thing if I were left alone to do it. It took longer to install bling components than remove the old fixture and install the new. It came in a very small box and was only about 20% assembled. :)

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Thank you. I give The RM2 a 10 with flavor and an 7 with vapor when compared with the Odin. The Odin gets a 10-10. But it's important to remember that the Odin has dual AFC and dual coils. The Odin is also the only dual coil dual AFC I've ever run. Before that all my attys were 14mm single coil attys like RM2, cyclone, chalice.

The vapor advantage to the Odin is attributed to having 2 coils wrapped to the same specs as the one I put in the RM2. They are both producing their own vapor and both getting steady stream of air from the wide open air slots right in front of them.

The air on the RM2 can be one opened up to cool a lower res coil and produce plenty of vapor - prolly putting it up in the 8 range against the Odin.

I don't like a hot vape. I tend to look at a build like a two strike dirtbike:

Putting in Dual coils are like getting that new FMF gold series exhaust / shorty silencer. But now you got to open up the air box to optimize flow (open AFC) Then you got to rejet (wide bore drip tip). All those variables will affect heat and vapor. If a dual coil is restricted by not enough air in, you get a hotter, less vaporious vape (lean condition).

Once you dial in the intake, now you got to get all that vapor out efficiently with a wider bore drip tip to equalize things. Once it's all in tune, you are ripping direct lung at the same heat as your single coil but the looseness of the open AFC is negated by the thickness of the vapor.

I use as much / little juice with my duals because they are built efficiently. The wire heats and cools quickly. That's often overlooked by those who just think "thick wire is the manly stuff". Well I think of efficiency. If something takes longer to heat up you are preheating juice (while it's coming up to temp) but not really vaporizing it (waste) and what takes longer to heat up takes longer to cool down (waste and gunk) This creates what I call the rich condition in dirtbike analogy. Most coil gunking (plug fouling) problems are more likely a result of inefficient builds with wire that is heavier than the application demands and juice is carmelizing on the coil after the throttle is closed because that mass o thick wire is still cooking but no air is there to cool it because the rider is no longer on the bike (hitting the mod). These are just my theories though.

It's also important to note that my flavor is unflavored 10 mg nic in mostly all VG.

Whilst the Odin looks large and has ample space for dual coils, the chamber is quite small. It can also accommodate a single coil and the AFC is engineered such that it can be used as single coil AFC. That's why I got one. I intended to use it as single coil but once I saw how easy it was to install a second coil and how that second coil gave the vapor significant amplitude, I was ruined.

If I ever decide to try dual coils, I'll definitely get an Odin (just because of your videos). But after smoking for many years, I don't think I could handle dual coils w/ direct lung hits for too long. The RM2 already puts out decent vapor, and sometimes coughs me up.

Great analogy on juice heating up, and coil gunking. Hope you don't mind me asking, but what's the coil status like when using the unflavored nic base? Does it gunk coils and cause frequent rebuilds? I just gotta order some and try it out.
 

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For me using unflavored 100% VG at 6mg/ml nic , I have very little gunk build up. I mean very, very little gunk. I don't bother rebuilding for weeks/months on end. I use RXW for wicking and maybe I do a dry burn once or every other week. I'm lazy like that but unflavored joose I believe will give you the cleanest vape possible.
 

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If I ever decide to try dual coils, I'll definitely get an Odin (just because of your videos). But after smoking for many years, I don't think I could handle dual coils w/ direct lung hits for too long. The RM2 already puts out decent vapor, and sometimes coughs me up.

Great analogy on juice heating up, and coil gunking. Hope you don't mind me asking, but what's the coil status like when using the unflavored nic base? Does it gunk coils and cause frequent rebuilds? I just gotta order some and try it out.

Very little gunk - like zero with my 10 mg in mostly VG mix. I'll post a pic of a month old coil that I rewicked today. Clean as a whistle. This is a 29 ga dual 1.4 ohm coil setup netting around .7 ish.
 

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