lr 901 atty on an Ego

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All I can say is wow!
These lr 901 attys are great! I put it on my Ego and it is wonderful
great vapor, great th and I can taste even the mildest of flavors with it.
The disapointment (for me) with a 510 atty is the lack of flavor. Not with the lr901

I like them so much I just ordered more. My budget is screaming :?:

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Too Awesome Mini!!! and your very welcome!
Yes! I'm in total agreement with you and definitely favor the 901 over any 510 any day! lol
I seen your order and had you immediately! Infact today should be your lucky day! I see we're in Tampa now! :D

Don't count out the 801! (sorry budget!) but you would get even more flavor off of them plus a much smoother draw. Either way the 901 and 801 are aced at the top of the list.

Thank you very much for your thread, it is Greatly appreciated. :)
 

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Oh! I never knew, there's something special about the cone, other than appearance, right?
Isaac you need to get yourself one, it is that simple and, no I am not Janty's pimp :) There is more happening with the eGO than meets the eye. Using one of Bob Ross' (The Joy of Painting) sayings...

The cone was a happy accident

I believe it might have started off as an aesthetic accoutrement, but the cone is anything but. Now if the designer designed it for its function, well then he/she is/was purely brilliant. I believe the former.

I believe PWM of the voltage delivery system coupled with the warming of incoming air renders a vape like no other device on the market, with perhaps the exception of the nock offs (the ones not mfr by JoyE). The delivery system when coupled with a LR atty becomes absolute bliss. I am waiting to try it out with a 2 Ohm atty in the future.

The downside of the eGo and its "true" brothers is the proprietary battery. There not cheap, hence why I do not use the standard LR atty on them. In short, its performance with the cone can compare to an 901 without the flodding problems of the 901, and the draw a little smoother.
 

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Hmm I have never tried the 801 , I may have to do that. But I like the cone on my Ego
For the simple reason that it protects my hands from the hot atty! :)
I hate grabbing a hot atty. I would need yet another adaptor to do it I would think.

I killed my first new atty after just 2 days. But I think I did it myself using a cart mod.
I have decided I really hate all cart mods and will just drip from now on LOL>

I have had no problem at all with this atty flooding. I can say this one does not compare with the 510 using the cone. It is much better for flavor and a bit less harsh then the 510.
 
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The combo of the Ego with 1.5 ohm in my opinion is the best not 2 ohm the Ego is 3.1-3.2v therefor matched with the 1.5 ohm LR it is perfect, if you go to 3.7 then ya 2ohm is better but on Ego 1.5 Rocks, Ego Batts also dont stress as much with the bigger amp draw of about 2.47 on Lr Attys compared to one amp or so with reg Atty's. So bottom line is this Ego set up combo of there Batt and 1.5 in my eyes puts out more vapor and just seems to work very nicely in combination.
 

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... and you are partially correct. I am not willing to clogged the arteries of my proprietary batteries with a LR atty. They were designed with a max 2C in mind, regardless of mAh.

I have tried the combo, and to me the difference is simply not worth the price of battery replacement. The delta (vaping on a box mod or HD batt) is akin to vaping with or without the cone with a standard atty, hardly worth it. I have devices that I use with my LRs, just not the eGo.
 

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I have tried the combo, and to me the difference is simply not worth the price of battery replacement. The delta (vaping on a box mod or HD batt) is akin to vaping with or without the cone with a standard atty, hardly worth it. I have devices that I use with my LRs, just not the eGo.

I haven't tried n tornego/riva yet, but they sure do seem like a popular item. As for PWM... thats a 'switching voltage regulator' setup instead of a 'linear voltage regulator'... is that right? In theory, i think, switching voltage regulators can be more efficient than linear voltage regulators. And if thats right, a variable power MOD based on PWM, could get the most runtime out of its batteries.

I must say I'm getting some decent quality runtime out of the LiMN + my new 2ohm atty combo. Generally after vaping as much as I have off of a batt + regular atty, it'd be dropping off in good hit production (even though there's more life left in the batt)... but this combo is still cranking out nice big hits... so far this setup is working like I hoped it would!
 

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I haven't tried n tornego/riva yet, but they sure do seem like a popular item. As for PWM... thats a 'switching voltage regulator' setup instead of a 'linear voltage regulator'... is that right? In theory, i think, switching voltage regulators can be more efficient than linear voltage regulators. And if thats right, a variable power MOD based on PWM, could get the most runtime out of its batteries.
Yes it is, but it will still cause excessive cholesterol and plaque build up in the batt. I am just not willing to take the chance mathematically. The delta between vaping on the eGo, which is special even without the cone, is too insignificant to me, to vape an LR other than on a battery mod.

I must say I'm getting some decent quality runtime out of the LiMN + my new 2ohm atty combo. Generally after vaping as much as I have off of a batt + regular atty, it'd be dropping off in good hit production (even though there's more life left in the batt)... but this combo is still cranking out nice big hits... so far this setup is working like I hoped it would!

... and because the amperage draw at 2 Ohms is close (but well within battery specs) that I will vape a 2 Ohm atty on the eGo. But I will never vape a 1.5 Ohm. If I need a 5V experience, I will vape my Lizard with a 6V with a 3.5 Ohm atty.

What folks need to remember here I believe is: The LR (the original at 1.5 Ohms) was designed to use an 18650 mAh HD battery. This was to simulate a 5V experience without the dangers associated with stacking batteries.<---- period It has moved from there.

Now folks are utilizing 3.1-7V devices regardless of the "battery" to get a 5V experience, without the complete understanding of what they are doing, or the inherent possible dangers associated with doing so.

Isaac has developed a series of atomisers through consultation with his mfr, that maintains the atty/battery combo within "safe" prescribed parameters. Now whether folks chose to use this engineered combination is neither here nor there. Isaac and eye speak a different language, he talks volts I talk watts. At the end of the day we understand each other. We both vape at "the" sweet spot, and that is all that matters. For folks that are looking for the magi vape, follow Isaac's recommendation. For those that want to live on the edge, follow what every one else is doing.

Many folks do not which to vape at anything with a resistance greater than 3 Ohms at HV. IMHO they are simply reckless.

Understanding the mathematics, the equipment you are using, the nicotine % of the liquids, the consistency, viscosity or composition of the liquids we vape, the size of the battery, its discharge rate/it's capacity, the resistance of atomisers, are all factors that will affect satisfaction. Satisfaction cannot IMHO be achieved by manipulating one or the other, it is the combination of the total packaeg that wins the race.
 

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Having used this atty for a few days now, I have to say , Ikan you have ruined my day:(
I tried putting a cartomizer on my Ego today to go out for the day and it just doesnt do it anymore!! Sheeeees! I was happy to get home to my atty!
This could be a problem. Until my drip tip comes in at least :)
... or a 2.2 Ohms carto, vice the regular 3-3.5 Ohms
 

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Yes it is, but it will still cause excessive cholesterol and plaque build up in the batt. I am just not willing to take the chance mathematically. The delta between vaping on the eGo, which is special even without the cone, is too insignificant to me, to vape an LR other than on a battery mod.

I didn't mean to suggest using LR attys on the eGo batt, rather that building a variable voltage MOD based on a 'switching voltage regulator' may be better than building a MOD based on a 'linear voltage regulator'.

... and because the amperage draw at 2 Ohms is close (but well within battery specs) that I will vape a 2 Ohm atty on the eGo.

That's why I'm running this new atty with the IMR LiMN, no where near the 4.5 amp limit. Whereas with the regular black and white 16340, I'd be somewhat over the 1.5 amp max continuous discharge rate with a fully charged batt.

I just picked up some of the black and whites for use with cartos and std attys, hoping to get a little more runtime with the higher resistance loads compared to the LiMN.
 

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I believe PWM of the voltage delivery system coupled with the warming of incoming air renders a vape like no other device on the market, with perhaps the exception of the nock offs (the ones not mfr by JoyE). The delivery system when coupled with a LR atty becomes absolute bliss. I am waiting to try it out with a 2 Ohm atty in the future.

Hey Switched,

Thanks for everything you do and for all the discoveries and knowledge you share with us. In return, based on my personal experience, I strongly recommend trying the Ego with the LR 2.0 atty.

I've had the privilege of using them since Tuesday of last week when I received my first shipment from Isaac. For me, the Chameleon with 2.0 LR atty at 3.7V with AW 16340 High Drain batt provides a superior vaping experience since the voltage doesn't drop bellow 4V for over 3 hrs, but the Ego, finally being paired with the right atty, has actually started providing true satisfaction when I occasionally use it now. Don't get me wrong, I always liked my Ego a lot but also wished it could provide a little more satisfaction. IMHO, this is it. These 2.0 atties are simply phenomenal! I still don't understand exactly why since the ohm rating is very close to the standard Joye 510 ohm rating. They heat up very fast without actually getting hot, produce more vapor than I'm used to getting, and never give me the burnt juice taste. I can't wait to see what you'll write after you try one.

Btw, I think ECF should create the Switched Sub-Forum. All in favor say :thumbs:
 

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Hey Switched,

Thanks for everything you do and for all the discoveries and knowledge you share with us. In return, based on my personal experience, I strongly recommend trying the Ego with the LR 2.0 atty.

I've had the privilege of using them since Tuesday of last week when I received my first shipment from Isaac. For me, the Chameleon with 2.0 LR atty at 3.7V with AW 16340 High Drain batt provides a superior vaping experience since the voltage doesn't drop bellow 4V for over 3 hrs, but the Ego, finally being paired with the right atty, has actually started providing true satisfaction when I occasionally use it now. Don't get me wrong, I always liked my Ego a lot but also wished it could provide a little more satisfaction. IMHO, this is it. These 2.0 atties are simply phenomenal! I still don't understand exactly why since the ohm rating is very close to the standard Joye 510 ohm rating. They heat up very fast without actually getting hot, produce more vapor than I'm used to getting, and never give me the burnt juice taste. I can't wait to see what you'll write after you try one.

Btw, I think ECF should create the Switched Sub-Forum. All in favor say :thumbs:
LOLz :oops:

It more than likely be positive and no BS. The 1.5 is a little on the harsh side IMHO, regardless of the device, but especially on large HD batteries. To some, this is desirable, but not to me. At times even the regular 510 runs a little too hot, that's where the 901 comes in.
 

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I didn't mean to suggest using LR attys on the eGo batt, rather that building a variable voltage MOD based on a 'switching voltage regulator' may be better than building a MOD based on a 'linear voltage regulator'.

That's why I'm running this new atty with the IMR LiMN, no where near the 4.5 amp limit. Whereas with the regular black and white 16340, I'd be somewhat over the 1.5 amp max continuous discharge rate with a fully charged batt.

I just picked up some of the black and whites for use with cartos and std attys, hoping to get a little more runtime with the higher resistance loads compared to the LiMN.
Ahh, I guess I was a little slow on the uptake.

What you are saying is to build a box mod using a "switching voltage regulator" vice a regular AVR? Where do ya get one of them?
 

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LOLz :oops:

It more than likely be positive and no BS. The 1.5 is a little on the harsh side IMHO, regardless of the device, but especially on large HD batteries. To some, this is desirable, but not to me. At times even the regular 510 runs a little too hot, that's where the 901 comes in.

I couldn't agree more! When trying a 1.5 LR atty for the first time I was expecting stronger, not harsher. Like you, I felt it was just harsh. The closest thing I can compare the 2.0 atty is a standard SLB 901 atty at 5v using a 5V 2A wall adapter, since that's what I use for about 8-10 hrs a day while at work. Now I'm convinced you'll love it! :) Maybe I should just send you one.
 
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What you are saying is to build a box mod using a "switching voltage regulator" vice a regular AVR? Where do ya get one of them?

Yes, not necessarily a box mod, but yes. I don't know where to get components like that, but since the 510 and the eGo seem to employ miniaturized components that regulate by pulsing (switching on/off rapidly between full voltage and zero), I figure they're probably available in IC parts catalogs.

I was quizzing a variable voltage MOD maker about how efficient it was when the chosen voltage was much lower than the voltage of the battery stack. Ultimately the answer was "not very". Made we wonder if components to do variable "voltage" switching regulators were available that might be more efficient. Really its not a matter of variable voltage, but variable RMS power.

edit: This device is far too big, but these guys get my point about efficiency
http://www.roboticsconnection.com/p-38-5v-switching-voltage-regulator.aspx

edit2: oh... here we go
http://www.mskennedy.com/store.asp?pid=9952
 
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