LR attys damaging eGo/Riva battery?
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Bah, I have used them for months and my egos are as good as new.. just my 2 cents worth.
Right, I've never read anyone claiming damage, so I'm curious why they are saying this.
honestly that's true...but lets put it in context....
all atties will damage stock batteries.... they amp draw of an atty at a given voltage exceeds the max drain rate of the stock batteries...this results in a reduction of # of times it can be charged before it won't take a charge anymore and dies....the LR atty is just worse...
example a 1.5Ω LR atty at 3.1V has an amp draw of about 2.07A... even a stock joye atty at 2.3Ω has an amp draw of about 1.35A...
now an ego battery has a max drain rate of about <.65A and the stock 510 is worse at . <.18A....
so yeah the LR will kill the battery quicker true...and you'll get a slightly reduced time between recharges...but really it's all relative...
the only batteries that it isnt going to overstress by not exceeding the max drain rate of a battery is really only on 3 mod batteries....the high drain IMR 14500 LiMN, the high drain IMR 16340 LiMN, and the 18650...
all atties will damage stock batteries.... they amp draw of an atty at a given voltage exceeds the max drain rate of the stock batteries...this results in a reduction of # of times it can be charged before it won't take a charge anymore and dies....the LR atty is just worse...
example a 1.5Ω LR atty at 3.1V has an amp draw of about 2.07A... even a stock joye atty at 2.3Ω has an amp draw of about 1.35A...
now an ego battery has a max drain rate of about <.65A and the stock 510 is worse at . <.18A....
so yeah the LR will kill the battery quicker true...and you'll get a slightly reduced time between recharges...but really it's all relative...
the only batteries that it isnt going to overstress by not exceeding the max drain rate of a battery is really only on 3 mod batteries....the high drain IMR 14500 LiMN, the high drain IMR 16340 LiMN, and the 18650...
it's actually being honest about them...I see it as a good thing...the warning is there...if you choose to use outside of specs then you were at least told...aditionally with the rate at which LR atties die...if they were to short circuit they will kill the ego battery because there is no protection in them...they're protected by a cheap mosfet and a short of the atty will kill the mosfet..
Did it just killed them outright, or was it something that took a few days/weeks to happen?
Seems there needs to be more info out there if this is truly the case...because I read lots of posts by people who recommend using LR atty's with these batteries.
The atty went and the battery went immediately afterwards............
sounds like senario 2 I mentioned above...atty shorts and kills the mosfet...which kills the battery...
I assume that regular attys short out as well, but losing a batt has only happened while using a LR atty
This thread by Scottbee is a must-read, indeed. Start with post #227. Better yet, read the whole thing.
Battery Voltages -- Surprise!
Battery Voltages -- Surprise!
I've used regular attys and LRs with both the eGo and Tornado batteries. I suspected the LRs were reducing overall battery life so I ran an in-house study, using LRs only on one and regular attys on another. While I can't say I vaped identically on both set-ups, as expected, max vape time between charges was less using LRs and the battery was shot sooner. This doesn't surprise me and it's worth buying batteries more frequently for the awesome vaping that goes with the LR/TorneGova combination.
I haven't gotten months out of the batteries like some users but I just got a good month out of one using LR attys only.
I haven't gotten months out of the batteries like some users but I just got a good month out of one using LR attys only.
right...but by already overstressing the battery so much and then throwing a short and surge at it might be more prevelent with the LR...I mean yeah with a regualr atty you're double past what the max drain rate of the battery has to begin with...but the LR is almost 4 times the max drain rate...if that makes sense....
otherwise...you'd expect the overstress to just eventually wear down the battery life between charges until you cant charge it anymore...
I know scottbee did some work and complaining about the cheap mosfet in place of protection in these types of batteries..
and that's what I'd expect from them....for the atty to go and then the battery to immediately follow...like I said I'd be prone to expect a short killing the mosfet...
I think my ego batteries are finally on their way out after 7 months...but then I don't use LR atties on them...those are saved for a mod with batteries that are appropriate to really push them and deliver the amp draw that they want...and honestly the jump in performace between the LR atties on an appropriate battery and the LR on an eGo...is equal to if not significantly better than the jump in performance between a regular atty on an eGo and the LR on an eGo
lol...yeah...
but it also depends on the battery you're using too...you get that big jump up from using them on an eGo.... but you want the most out of them put a high drain or an 18650 in that puppy...like I said earlier 14500 or 16340 size use the high drain...18650 size any of them will work...
with those the max drain rate of the battery is above the amp draw of the lr atty...
below those what you get is a battery that cant quite keep up with the power demands which results in voltage sag so it's not hitting as hard...
(back when you were using your KR8 batteries....think of it like the difference between a brand new fresh off the charger battery and a battery you've had a little while that's about half charged.....that's the best way I can compare the difference)
Drozd, is your eGo tweaked at all? Or are you using your as it's sold. If it's not tweaked, have you tried the new cartos, the 2.5 Ω ones from Vapors Etc. and/or Good Prophets? How about the big eGo cartomizer? They are all in the "moderate" resistance range and I like them a lot. What do you think?
So is this what all the hoopla about HD IMR batts is about? I've heard from others they can't tell the difference between HD and standard Lith-ions.
From what I can gather, this just means it's safer all around (for you, the batt, and the atty) if you use HD batts, not a vaping experience thing.
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