Just curious if anyone has had their pyramid tea bags melt while in their carts yet?
Hasn't happened to me yet, more curiosity than anything
Hasn't happened to me yet, more curiosity than anything
Lypton PTB melting?
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I've pulled my cart off a few times only to see the tea bag in the atomizer. So, it was sitting right ON the bridge.
No burning, no melting, no nasty taste...
This filler is the bomb! Sending some to my son in Iraq in his next care package....and Moobyghost's video too!
No burning, no melting, no nasty taste...
This filler is the bomb! Sending some to my son in Iraq in his next care package....and Moobyghost's video too!
As far as I understand, nylon, which the pyramid teabags are made out of, melts at a higher temperature than the atty produces. I don't think it's possible to melt a pyramid teabag in a PV...
not wanting to scare anyone but i think the nylon assertion is incorrect.
according to lipton customer service the material is "food grade plastic"
also called "pet". at least that's what was quoted to me over the phone.
what temperature pet melts and what temp the atty is when hot, i don't know.
so at the very least i would always strive to keep these bags wet and don't
be careless about vaping till they're dry.
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Well, let's see... the melting point of Polyethylene Terephthalate (PET) is about 500 degrees F and Nylons melting point is 417-500 degrees F and I don't believe the attys get over about 140 degrees F. So, I think you're pretty safe...
Haven't noticed any melting in almost a month of heavy vaping. The cart even ran dry on a few occasions.
I still use them and in making the PET statement do you?
I think statements like that, that are only based on a companies public relation explanations can be just wrong and do scare members that might otherwise find a great cart filler.
A few years back big tobacco was in denial and a phone conversation with their PR would garner an answer like. "..our products aren't harmful..".
Anyway.... I believe some independent analysis should be done on PTB material by someone who has the time, money and experience to do so.
But in the meantime...
Let those that use PTB vape in peace.
Just my 2 cents...
i've started to use the lipton pyramid tea bags for now i have it in my 510's and i have a regular tea bag in my 901.
i'm being very careful not to let the bag go dry because i do notice a taste change.
i'm not sure i understand your logic about lipton "public relation strategy"
because in the example you cited a company lies to the public about their
(big tobacco) product being safe. this makes sense because they don't want people to stop using their product.
in Liptons case they are telling people their products are made from PET which should be safe for the use in which it is intended (for tea). i didn't tell them i was using it in an ecig and possibly burning it.
the belief that these bags are made of nylon comes from another manufacturers claims not representing lipton. no one has really confirmed, even verbally, the veracity of that claim.
stehle,
if i make you feel uncomfortable by telling you what i heard first hand and talk about my own personal experience and thoughts on the use of ptb's there's nothing i can do about that.
i'm currently using the ptb mod. so i feel that gives me the right to talk about it. isn't that what this forum is all about?
why would someone want to use something and not know anything about it. ignorance is bliss?
if that's your stance just ignore me and vape away in ignorance.
i'm being very careful not to let the bag go dry because i do notice a taste change.
i'm not sure i understand your logic about lipton "public relation strategy"
because in the example you cited a company lies to the public about their
(big tobacco) product being safe. this makes sense because they don't want people to stop using their product.
in Liptons case they are telling people their products are made from PET which should be safe for the use in which it is intended (for tea). i didn't tell them i was using it in an ecig and possibly burning it.
the belief that these bags are made of nylon comes from another manufacturers claims not representing lipton. no one has really confirmed, even verbally, the veracity of that claim.
stehle,
if i make you feel uncomfortable by telling you what i heard first hand and talk about my own personal experience and thoughts on the use of ptb's there's nothing i can do about that.
i'm currently using the ptb mod. so i feel that gives me the right to talk about it. isn't that what this forum is all about?
why would someone want to use something and not know anything about it. ignorance is bliss?
if that's your stance just ignore me and vape away in ignorance.
No- Works perfect, using one now for a week I think.
Check out how I put them in- it kind of creates a natural strawmod without the straw.
Note my new thin band atty needed the filler recessed a little more, I guess the bridge comes up farther.
Check out how I put them in- it kind of creates a natural strawmod without the straw.
Note my new thin band atty needed the filler recessed a little more, I guess the bridge comes up farther.
Yeah I do it the same way. Stopped using the straw mod once I switched to these.
I cut down my juice cart, on my 801, 1/8 of an inch on the burner end to avoid such problems....the problem started when I started "burning" the sludge off regularly, now they burn alittle hotter so I moved the cart away from the burner 1/8 of an inch...I guess I should have reported that earlier huh.....???
So if the atty gets to 140 degrees, that's less than the 210 degrees of boiling water that you pour onto those tea bags if used for what they are sold for. I think we're pretty safe. I too have vaped mine dry frequently because I vape constantly while on the computer or watching tv and don't really pay attention until I realize I'm getting no vapor . I've never gotten the nasty burnt taste I used to get with the poly when I did that.
. I've never gotten the nasty burnt taste I used to get with the poly when I did that.You are over 200 degrees low on the atty temp. What temp do you think nickle chromium wire glows red orange at?Well, let's see... the melting point of Polyethylene Terephthalate (PET) is about 500 degrees F and Nylons melting point is 417-500 degrees F and I don't believe the attys get over about 140 degrees F. So, I think you're pretty safe...
Nicotine vaporizes around 257F to 302F and propylene glycol (PG) at 370F so it has to get at least that hot to even work.
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from wiki on nicotine
"As shown by the physical data, free base nicotine will burn at a temperature below its boiling point, and its vapors will combust at 308 K (35 °C; 95 °F) in air despite a low vapor pressure. Because of this, most of the nicotine is burned when a cigarette is smoked; however, enough is inhaled to provide the desired effects. The amount of nicotine inhaled with tobacco smoke is a fraction of the amount contained in the tobacco leaves."
a member's test on temperature of atomizer with and without mods
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...test-electrial-properties-different-mods.html
i think the average temp found in the atomizer is about 130 f
if this is correct it seems well below the melting point of pet at 500f
"As shown by the physical data, free base nicotine will burn at a temperature below its boiling point, and its vapors will combust at 308 K (35 °C; 95 °F) in air despite a low vapor pressure. Because of this, most of the nicotine is burned when a cigarette is smoked; however, enough is inhaled to provide the desired effects. The amount of nicotine inhaled with tobacco smoke is a fraction of the amount contained in the tobacco leaves."
a member's test on temperature of atomizer with and without mods
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...test-electrial-properties-different-mods.html
i think the average temp found in the atomizer is about 130 f
if this is correct it seems well below the melting point of pet at 500f
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I've been using PTB for about a week and have had no problems with melting. I really like them and probably won't go back to poly fill.
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