M201 & 402: My dream e-cigs!

[Fedor]

fedor, I remember u said urs made a sound for awhile. was it a gurgly kind of sound?

anyone else have a similar experience?

It'll gurgle a bit if the cart is too full with liquid. Just take a few soft puffs to dry it out a little.

New ecigs may take a little time to break in. Mine made a whistling sound when i first got it 4 months ago. I noticed the whistling sound is gone for good with newer models but they still need some time to break in. Most will create good vapor but the major throat hit will come after about half a day to a day.

If you like what you vape, then you're probably already doing the right thing. Just remember to pull off the original carts and replace it with a new one. Get some liquid and try refilling and dripping 1-2 drops on the atomiser. You'll love it.

 

[jennyden]

I think I even figured out what went wrong with the first one I got from the other company thanks to something he said. The replacement cartridges I purchased were the pre-packed ones and were over loaded with e-juice. When I took them out of the package there was e-juice everywhere. I'm guessing when I put it in it leaked down into the e-cig and caused problems.

 

[jennyden]

He said he is really having trouble with his supplier and is very frustrated. They did tell him his order is finally ready though so he's hoping to get everything soon.

 

[jennyden]

I was lucky I purchased when I did because I basically got the last kit he had! I guess I do have some luck after all.

 

[kaeo773]

I was lucky I purchased when I did because I basically got the last kit he had! I guess I do have some luck after all.

Can you test your batteries to see how it takes for them to blink (cutoff). I can get 9-10sec on all 9 M401 batteries I got from him. I just want to make sure that other people are experiencing the same long cutoff.

 

[Fedor]

I think I even figured out what went wrong with the first one I got from the other company thanks to something he said. The replacement cartridges I purchased were the pre-packed ones and were over loaded with e-juice. When I took them out of the package there was e-juice everywhere. I'm guessing when I put it in it leaked down into the e-cig and caused problems.

You really don't need to post consecutive posts like this and flood the thread. There are better ways to up your post count.

Also, with all the new things that you have "discovered", don't you think you should at least go back and edit your original post about the supplier?

 

[Fedor]

Can you test your batteries to see how it takes for them to blink (cutoff). I can get 9-10sec on all 9 M401 batteries I got from him. I just want to make sure that other people are experiencing the same long cutoff.

I get my batteries from only one place but i guess they are all manufactured at the same place.

I noticed that my newer purchases seems to have a very long cut off. I tried to time it but can never really puff up to more than 10 seconds. It still does not trigger the cut off though. My newer batteries are all M401.

My older purchases are the ones with 5 seconds cut off and those annoy me a little but still very much usable. I have both 402s and 401s for these.

One thing about these batteries are that they tend to go off (not cut off) faster when the carts are dry. It will lit for a while and then lights off...Is this the smart battery that people were talking about?

 

[kaeo773]

I know the feeling, I have given up on all 5 of my EVO batteries, I am luck if I get 5sec. I need at least 7sec to be happy.

 

[Fedor]

I know the feeling, I have given up on all 5 of my EVO batteries, I am luck if I get 5sec. I need at least 7sec to be happy.

My latest M401 batteries (don't know about the M402s) from absolutelyecigs.com all have the long cut off. Definitely more than 7 seconds but i have not pushed it to the limits. I choke myself when i try.

Careful with the Evo comparison. There are people that will come in and roast you alive by the slightest hint that the evo is the same as the M401..LOL

LOL........

 

[kaeo773]

I am not saying the EVO batteries are the same, I know are not manufactured in China, and have a bigger mah. I am just saying I don't use them anymore because I barely get 5sec before the cutoff.

 

[gatsby]

What are you all doing for cart (besides not using them)? It seems to me there are a couple of different cart styles and I am not crazy about any of them. I hate cart in general so this isn't a surprise, but there are time when I need to use them. The carts I got with the kit seem small and it is almost like dripping with as often as I top them off. I got some DSE401 carts and they seem bigger (like the EVO carts maybe), but I feel like they don't draw as well. I haven't tried re packing either of them but my experience with that hasn't been great either. Anyone have any good results with carts they want to share?

 

[cekte]

What are you all doing for cart (besides not using them)? It seems to me there are a couple of different cart styles and I am not crazy about any of them. I hate cart in general so this isn't a surprise, but there are time when I need to use them. The carts I got with the kit seem small and it is almost like dripping with as often as I top them off. I got some DSE401 carts and they seem bigger (like the EVO carts maybe), but I feel like they don't draw as well. I haven't tried re packing either of them but my experience with that hasn't been great either. Anyone have any good results with carts they want to share?

The m401 inner reservoir with the stick is my personal choice. I have tried every 401 cart style in production, and the cup with stick, seems to be the easiest draw, best containment, and overall design. These are a bit easy to drink from if overfilled, but quite similar to the other designs in that aspect.

I personally really don't like the newest m4 cart design. The tri-winged cup design stinks IMO. It doesn't hold any more fluid, draw easier, or prevent leaking any differently. It is also a PIA to refill and insert back into the cart properly. They rely on the wall of the cart to hold it in place, to meet with the bridge of the atomizer. They either get pushed too far or not far enough nearly every time. This can be rather frustrating for newer users.

The fix to this of course is using a device to push the inner cart back into contact with the atomizers bridge. However its just a nuisance...

 

[Fedor]

I am not saying the EVO batteries are the same, I know are not manufactured in China, and have a bigger mah.

You seriously think so? C'mon....

Ah well.....My bad for bringing this up in the first place. End of discussion on this.

 

[cekte]

You seriously think so? C'mon....

Ah well.....My bad for bringing this up in the first place. End of discussion on this.

*no comment*

 

[kaeo773]

cekte- I agree with you, I like the older carts with the sticks as well, I reuse these all the time. I have the EVO carts, DSE401 carts, and the newer M401 3 prong carts.

 

[gatsby]

Anyone know anyplace that reliably stocks the 'cup and stick' style so I could try them? Another issue is that with the ones with the air holes in the stem I have poked holes in the bottom of two of them with a paperclip getting them out. Did I mention I hate carts.

 

[CJsKee]

The carts w/my 401 don't have the stick. I just pull the stuffing up level with the top of the insert and then push it down using the atty. This insures contact. Haven't had any problems doing it that way.

 

[kaeo773]

i have been looking for awhile, and everyone seems to have the newer version

 

[cekte]

Thanks Kaeo.

Anyone know anyplace that reliably stocks the 'cup and stick' style so I could try them? Another issue is that with the ones with the air holes in the stem I have poked holes in the bottom of two of them with a paperclip getting them out. Did I mention I hate carts.

They're a necesarry evil, Unless you fancy dripping constantly. I dont ..

You may wish to check with Sean or Sepideh at electronic-cigz.com - Premium E-Cigarettes, Cartridges and Supplies . Review coming soon of his carts, Ultra m401 kit and accessories.

He is the only supplier who carries Johnson Creek filled cartridges (newer design carts), and he also carries empty or blank m401 carts. Last time I spoke with him, he had mentioned the blank carts all being the older stick and cup style. Make sure you ask of such before ordering, to be sure. They are normally great at response times.

 

[cekte]

The carts w/my 401 don't have the stick. I just pull the stuffing up level with the top of the insert and then push it down using the atty. This insures contact. Haven't had any problems doing it that way.

You can use this method, but must be very careful of overfilling, or even close. When using the atomizer to push the inner cart back down, the bridge compresses the batting. This makes the liquid flow up, into the bridge, and usually over the side of the inner cart. (Especially if you have dripped onto the atomizer also, during the refill.) After that it is only a matter if time before you end up drinking your vape.

Also pushing it back down this way, pushes the batting much too close to the coil. This has a much greater possibility of getting fibers in the coil, melting your batting, and then inhaling fumes..