M401 Black Tie from Dietsmokes

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taukimada

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So, I just got my new m401. I am 100% new to this, please excuse if the questions sound stupid!

How long do I charge the battery for before I can try it?

What exactly does liquid / juice do? Is it absolutely necessary to have liquid in order to smoke? Or is it ok to just go ahead while waiting for the liquid?

as long as you have juiced cartridges you can vape with them...

as far asbattery... i cant vouch for that particular model.. but most are 8 hour chargefirst time around


it should be safe tho for you to use the battery thats NOT charging to take a few samole puffs :)
 
Tracy,

Welcome to the forum! I'm a "near-noobie" ( not quite new, no where near experienced ). LOL

I have the same model in the red "Scorpion". I think you'll like it. I let mine charge for 8 hours like the manual says. I know the waiting for the battery charge is agonizing. :(

As far as the juice, the atomizer must stay moist when smoking or you will burn it out. The cartridges that came with your 401 already have liquid in them. The liquid that you ordered can be used to refill those carts. Once they aren't producing any more vapor/flavor, just rinse the polyfiber filler under some warm water and let dry, then restuff, reuse in your cart with the liquid you ordered. I'd pick up a bottle of glycerin as well. WAY helps with the vapor production. Can be found in the cake decorating area of your local Walmart or hobby supply store.

Pooch Smooches~

Patti
 

dham340

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Got the same model from dietsmokes. After a week I am not sure if I like it.
Carts are hard to fill/top off and their still is a nasty primer taste to the vapor.
Cleaned out the atomizers to see it makes a difference
Also, I think the external wick atomizer gets hotter than a 901 internal which affects the taste of the juice.
 

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Thanks!

Patti - glycerin? What will I do with it? Do I mix it with the juice when it gets here or use a dropper and put some on? :confused:

Also - the extra battery, I tried using that. I feel like I am sucking pure air. Yuck. Why is that??

Tracy,

It's been a few days since you posted. How are things going with your new toy?

Smoking an e-cig takes a different draw then with an analog. It's a technique that you'll just have to master. Shouldn't take more than a couple of days. Please don't give up. You WILL figure out how to get the most out of your new toy.

When battery's are low, your not going to get much. That's why that first try off the fresh, non-charged battery felt so weird. Also, your 401 has 4 holes around the atomizer for air flow. I found those first few days that if I plugged 2 of those holes with my finger while vaping, it felt more like a analog drag. I don't do that any more, but it helped the first day.

When I placed my order for my starter kit, I also ordered some liquid. After I got the liquid, I found it to be too stong, nic-wise, for me. It would give me too much of a buzz. I went shopping for some "lab" stuff and picked up the glycerin, a couple of bottles of "Sweet Breath" breath freshner and an eye dropper.

Got home, emptied the breath freshner bottle, rinsed throughly and let dry. Then, with the eye dropper, I used 2 parts of the e-liquid with 1 part gycerin in the little bottle, recapped and shook. I retained most of the flavor and got MUCH more vapor.

If you haven't already, do yourself a favor and take the time to read the sticky: Helpful links and videos for a new user. I devoured this sticky and all the links in it and found it VERY useful. I never thought I'd be mixing my own, but now my kitchen counter looks like a chem lab exploded in there. :D

I also found the carts that I ordered and that came with my kit to be too strong. One of those vidoes shows you how to squeeze the juice out of your cart using a syringe. I opened all of my apple flavored carts, put them in the syringe and squeezed the juice into one of the breath freshner bottles, added some glycerine, shook and vaped. Lost a little of the flavor doing this, but retained enough that it's smokeable and I get plenty of vapor. I then pulled the stuffing out of the emptied carts, rinsed the stuffing and the plastic cart in warm water and air dried. Now I have several clean, empty carts that I can refill with whatever I choose.

Hope some of this helped and that you've found joy in your new toy. :)

Pooch Smooches~

Patti
 

tracyalexa1

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Patti - I am really glad you posted bc I am having issues!! :mad:

I will try to explain here and I am going to post a new post incase ppl don't read this.

The charger, I have a usb that plugs into the standard plug then into the wall. The one that connects to the battery blinks green / red (all the time). The one w/ the 2 prongs, stays red all the time. Is that normal?? I've tried unplugging the usb and connecting it directly to my computer. Same result. Blinking green / red. Does it ever just turn green when it's done charging?

The taste in general is weird. Maybe I need to block 2 holes like you suggested? I tried adding the liquid but got a mouth full - that was so terrible. I think that was because it was in the pocket of my purse and that caused it to spill over a bit?

The carts are menthol medium (I believe) and the liquid is janty mint. But honestly, it seems VERY weak to me. Like airy. I don't know what all this vapor/smoke everyone talks about is either. I get a bit...but nothing major at all. There is no throat hit at all.

Am I just doing something wrong? :confused:
 

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The more I read this post the more I believe you are having some odd battery / charging problems. It doesn't seem like your batteries (both) are charging completely or at all. If the light on the charger doesn't turn green ever it could be the charger itself or the batteries. This would cause the issues you are having as far as getting no vapor and getting liquid in your mouth.

Make sure to clean the contacts of the battery with a dry cloth to get off any juice or residue and try and recharge them. Do you feel the atomizer even getting hot? I would email Parker over at DietSmokes and see if he can help you?

Also, if you are dripping directly on the atomizer, be sure not to use more than a few drops- otherwise you can flood the atomizer and it may not work until it dry's out some. If you feel this may be the case, take the cart and battery off the atomizer, get a paper towel/napkin and blow through the atomizer from the battery size. You should see excess liquid on the napkin. Set the atomizer to the side and let it dry out some.

BUT with the charger issues it really seems to be more battery oriented issues.
 

deliza

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I'm pretty new as well, been at this for about a month. I have a 401 (from midwestvapor) and my charger starts red and when it is charged it alternates between green and red. It worried me at first, but I have alternating the same 2 batteries for a month and they work fine. Also, I got another charger and it does the same thing, so I'm not so worried about it.
 
... i got a dual atomizer kit from litecigusa.. Only charge my first battery for a bit over an hour and it seems to hit harder than the camel wides I'm giving up.. My charger also blinks, but Im pretty sure that's how it's designed.. You can't just give full amperage to a li-ion battery, you have to trickle charge it.. I think that's what it's doing.. If I'm right, you can tell basically how close your battery is to charged based on how long the LED blinks red.. When you first plug it in it'll stay red for a while, then once it's been charging a bit it'll blink on and off, then it'll stay mostly green and occasionally blink red for shorter and shorter periods..

Don't give up on the m-401 yet, though.. I couldn't be more impressed with mine..
 

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ok so i let my m401 sit on the blinking charger for about 7 hours and then realized i wasnt going to be able to sleep until i found out for sure if it was working or not
and im still not completely sure
but it just kicked my ....
i vaped on it for about 15 minutes and i gotta say, once u get a technique down this thing seems to give a really decent throat hit and a good amount of vapor. like i said i hit it for about 15 minutes and the cherry light didnt blink to indicate a low battery, so i suppose that would mean that the charger is working correct?
 
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