making my own eliquid

[ilovetigers100]

Hi all

I wouls like to make my own liquids i have been using pre-made liquids 80/20 mix with flavour my questions is if i get the pg and vg ready made 80/20 mix how much flavourings do i add for example i would have a 500ml bottle of 80/20 pg /vg ready mix no nic as not wanted

so if i wanted to make 30ml bottles using the mix how much flavour would i need to add?? sorry total stupid question i know but have no idea but the mix is want i would like to stick too have been using this a while any help would be great thanks

 

[bwh79]

It all depends on what flavor(s) you use. 5-15% is a good starting guess for single-flavor mixes, but sometimes you'll be down even lower than that, like 1.5 percent or so. Some brands are stronger than others, and some flavors are stronger than others within a single brand. You'll just have to experiment. Then, there are the "recipes" that use more than one flavor. Some recipes have individual flavors at half a percent or less, and some of them have combined flavoring totals of 25% or more.

Start small. Maybe 10ml batches would be a good starting point. If it turns out you don't like the mix, you're just going to end up pouring it down the drain, so you don't want to waste too much on a bad batch. If you do like it, it's easy enough to make more after you figure that out. Many people (myself included) make the initial mistake of just picking some flavors that sound good, and then asking "what can I make with all of these?" Instead, it's usually recommended that you find some proven recipes that look tasty to you, and buy the specific flavors needed for those recipes. I've tried a handful of recipes myself; some good, some okay, some not-so-good-at-all. What kind of flavor profiles do you like in the juice you're buying now?

 

[ilovetigers100]

great thank you its was the adding the flavours that was confusing me as the pg/vg are ready made i dont have to worry it was thinking of how much flavour would i add to say 30ml bottle again thank you for the advice if the pg and vg are ready made for example how much flavour would i need to make a 10ml 1,2 drops etc sorry probably a stupid question

 

[ilovetigers100]

i would love an easy guide using the pre-made 80/20 mix would make life so easy lol

 

[bwh79]

great thank you its was the adding the flavours that was confusing me as the pg/vg are ready made i dont have to worry it was thinking of how much flavour would i add to say 30ml bottle again thank you for the advice

Also note that most flavors are suspended in a PG base, and so are counted towards the PG total. For example if you make a mix that's 15% flavor and 85% "80/20 mix" then your end result won't be 80/20 once you've combined them. It will be more like (assuming the "80" is VG) 68/32. Perhaps you'd be best off getting pure PG and pure VG instead of a pre-mixed ratio. Otherwise, making different recipes with different flavor amounts is going to result in different ratios in the final mix, and you won't be able to adjust the ratio except by adjusting the flavor amounts. But if you get each one separately, then it's easy to add 15% flavor and 5% PG to one batch, or 10% flavor and 10% PG to a different batch (and 80% VG in both cases) and still end up with 80/20 in either case.

 

[ilovetigers100]

the pg and vg is pure no added extras its premixed 80% VG 20% PG thanks again

 

[bwh79]

great thank you its was the adding the flavours that was confusing me as the pg/vg are ready made i dont have to worry it was thinking of how much flavour would i add to say 30ml bottle again thank you for the advice if the pg and vg are ready made for example how much flavour would i need to make a 10ml 1,2 drops etc sorry probably a stupid question

Again, it depends on what flavors you are using. You do know how "percents" work, right? As an example, here's a simple "strawberry cream" recipe I found on another site. It uses 6% Strawberry and 8% Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (both are TFA or "The Flavor Apprentice" brand flavors), for a total of 14% flavor. In a 30ml batch, that works out to 4.2ml flavor, combined (14% of 30ml is 0.14*30=4.2 ml). Here's a breakdown:

6% Strawberry TFA (1.8ml, counts as "PG")
8% Vanilla Bean Ice Cream TFA (2.4ml, counts as "PG")
6% PG (1.8ml) [Total of all flavors + PG = 20% or 6ml]
80% VG (24ml)
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100% TOTAL (30ml) -- 80%VG / 20%PG


...if you're doing it with an 80/20 mix instead, it looks something like this:

6% Strawberry (1.8ml, counts as "PG")
8% VBIC (2.4ml, counts as "PG")
86% "80/20 mix" (25.8ml, counts as 20.64ml "VG" [68.8% of total] and 5.16ml "PG" [17.2% of total])
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100% TOTAL (30ml) -- 68.8% VG / 31.2% PG
[EDIT: That's if your 80/20 means 80vg/20pg. If you meant 80pg/20vg instead, then the total would be 82.8%PG / 17.2% VG.]

The PG/VG ratios are off in this second example, because while you STARTED with an 80/20 mix, you then altered it by adding in some PG-based flavoring which threw off the ratio. If you want to start with 80/20, and end up with 80/20, then whatever you add has to also be in the ratio of 80/20. Instead, you're adding 0/100 to the mix, which skews the numbers. This is why I said you should get some pure PG and VG instead of using the 80/20 mix, since you won't be able to add flavor to it that way and still end up with the ratio you desire.

 

[ilovetigers100]

that makes sense thank you for the help completely understand now

 

[c3scott]

Find a popular recipe on eliquidrecipes.com and mix it. No more guessing.

 

[dannyv45]

Flavors come in all different strengths. You just need to experiment.
The best advice you were given is start small. Lets say start with 10ml's of VG/PG base and add 5% flavoring (Learn to use percentages) and get yourself an ejuice calculator.

A good (Free) calculator would be this one.

eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator

An example of a 10ml mix at 5% would be

9.5ml's of base (95% base)
.5ml's of flavoring (5% flavoring)

Then you adjust the flavoring up or down from there in 1% increments until it taste right to you.

The reason to start small is so you don't waste materials experimenting with big 30ml batches.

I've written many blogs on DIY to help you get started so have a look.

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