Making own liquid

[teter]

Hi

I read a little about this and if i understand right the liquid is made from Propylene Glycol PG, Vegetable Glycerin VG, nicotine and flavor

Most liquids are
70-80% PG
20-30% VG
0-24mg nicotine and
flavor

Some also have tiny amount of alcohol or distilled water.

I would like to make my own liquid and just wonder if those products would be good and ofcouse safe.

VG
CLEAR FOOD COSMETIC GRADE USP KOSHER VEGETABLE GLYCERINE GLYCEROL IN 6 SIZES | eBay

PG
CLASSIKOOL MPG MONO PROPYLENE GLYCOL PHARMA GRADE BETTER THAN FOOD GRADE 99% + | eBay

I don't need nicotine so can i just mix those 2 products and start vape?
Anybody have experience with home made liquids?

thans in advance

 

[tyob1]

I mix my own from from time to time. Whatever you use, make sure its USP (pharmaceutical) grade. You can get USP Veg Glycerin from Walmart pharmacy section. I have my local pharmacy order my propylene glycol for me.

 

[tyob1]

You can also get 10-20 ml oral med syringes from Walmart/pharmacy as well. When adding flavor I use a 20 gauge 3ml intramuscular syringe, it's more accurate for the smaller measurements.

 

[Wickeddeuce]

go check out essential depot, i got my pg and vg from them... i think its good and at a good price too...

as far as mixing goes, you can mix whatever percentages you want... my wife prefers an 80/20, i used to prefer a 50/50 now i prefer 30/70

i would probably try higher vg, but... the nic, and all flavorings we have are pg... so... i think im stuck at 30% pg... not much i can do about it... though i might be able to adjust to 25/75 now that i think about it...

edit: mixing is really simple, if you want to mix just pg and vg with no flavorings, and just vape unflavored... then all you need is pg and vg... if you are trying for whatever flavor you gotta get the flavorings too... keep that in mind on your mixing... for example all our flavorings are pg...

so when my wife mixes 20% flavoring for if she did the rest vg, itd still end up being 20/80

just letting you know

 

[King Toot]

You can also get 10-20 ml oral med syringes from Walmart/pharmacy as well. When adding flavor I use a 20 gauge 3ml intramuscular syringe, it's more accurate for the smaller measurements.

As long time Type 1 insulin dependant diabetic I wonder if, when I get the itch to make my own e liquids, I would be able to parlay some of my existing supplies into tools to help with the task. Making lemonade out of lemons finally maybe?

 

[djsvapour]

Teter.

Please don't mess around on ebay.

Go to a good e-cig liquid vendor and start from there. First time, you can use premixed PG and VG in any strength you like.
Plus, you can also get high quality concentrates.

Try this.

VPG Nicotine Base

If 40-80p for 10mls is too much, then consider going the whole way with seperate ingredients.

I've wasted countless amounts of money on buying no-name PG/VG and rubbish flavours. False economy.

 

[tyob1]

As long time Type 1 insulin dependant diabetic I wonder if, when I get the itch to make my own e liquids, I would be able to parlay some of my existing supplies into tools to help with the task. Making lemonade out of lemons finally maybe?

I'm thinking the needle gauge would be so small, it would take you 3 days to draw a ml of pg, let alone vg.. Maybe if you have Luer locks you could just remove the needle.

 

[teter]

Thanks for the link djsvapour. Good website but i can't find VPG with 0mg. minim is 6mg. do you know any reliable sites where i can buy?

 

[Train2]

That's what I use to measure - syringes with no tip.
for flavorings, you need 1 ml syringes, for PG/VG get some 3's and maybe a 5.
They're cheap and you can rinse and reuse.

I agree with previous post - you want pharmaceutical grade, and the stuff is SO CHEAP compared to buying e-liquid from a vendor, that there's no need to get anything from a questionable source. Go to a trusted source. Not sure what that is in your country, sorry!

Also - that PG/VG ration can be anything from 0-100% either way.
PG is better at "carrying flavorings" while VG is better at producing the vapor.
PG is thinner and VG is thicker - this effects how hard or easy it is to get the liquid "wicking" in the device.
So it's a compromise and a preference. I tend to mix my own juice somewhere in the range of 40/60 to 60/40.

I'm thinking the needle gauge would be so small, it would take you 3 days to draw a ml of pg, let alone vg.. Maybe if you have Luer locks you could just remove the needle.

 

[yzer]

You can buy what people here call VG at any drugstore in the US. It's called Glycerin USP in the US. It is pharmaceutical grade glycerin (glycerol).

The same product is called Glycerin BP in in the UK.

Yes, you can buy it in any quantity you want: 55 gallon drum, a railway tank car, etc. The question is do you need that much of the stuff?

 

[djsvapour]

Thanks for the link djsvapour. Good website but i can't find VPG with 0mg. minim is 6mg. do you know any reliable sites where i can buy?

Sorry.

Maybe try here? Get one of each...

E-liquid -base liquid

 

[teter]

tomorrow i will check Boots and local pharmacy. Where you guys buy flavors? Can i use cake flavors or better order from websites who leal with e-liquids?

 

[teter]

Thanks
There is PG 250ml for 5.49, VG 200ml for 4.99 + 3.5 postage. with flavors give me almost 500ml for around 15 pounds. Damn good price compare to 30ml for 9 pounds in my local shop

 

[djsvapour]

If you go back to LT e-cigs, you can buy flavour concentrates on there. £2 - ish.

Inawera, Wera Garden, Tino D'milano.

or look up "Flavourart" or "Decadent vapours".

Shop bought concentrates won't cut it, although people used to use "cupcake world".

I hope that helps. P.S. the Care+ brand (Sainsburys/Boots) of VG tastes bad in e-liquid.

Oh... and Capella flavour drops are good. They are sold on "the Alchemists Cupboard".

 

[InTheShade]

i would steer clear of food flavorings found in your local grocery store - most contain oils - not good vapes.

 

[TheReign]

so im just throwing this out there. i have no idea how to DIY style so forgive me if this sounds so stupid but..

i understand the whole pg vg ratio and what not. so do you have to have put vg and pg and mix those together with the flavoring? or how would you make a batch of liquid 50/50 ratio with 18 mg of nicotine. very curious to this. if anyone could PM me the recipe or directions i would be so stoked. i want to make a huge batch of a few of my ADV.. tired of ordering liquid when i could just make it myself and always have on tap at my request. mwuahaha

 

[dead not sleeping]

Wizard Labs in the US. Prices are good and shipping is very reasonable for their flavors ( TFA, Lor, Seedmans ), I think they have to ship the nic, pg, and vg via priority mail though. 120ml's of all three came to $31 and change, with priority shipping. They also have lab glass, syringes, bottles, etc. I don't know what it takes to get it across the pond.

dns

 

[keonee]

If you download this calculator it will tell you the ratios you need for mixing up e liquids

eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator

 

[teter]

Anybody know if this glycerin would be ok?
Boots Traditional Glycerin and Rosewater 200ml - Boots

 

[djsvapour]

Anybody know if this glycerin would be ok?
Boots Traditional Glycerin and Rosewater 200ml - Boots

Not at all. No. Do not use.

Just plain 100% Glycerin.