Manufacture Opinion
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I've long suspected this to be true.
I just purchased my first smartphone a couple of weeks ago, and the honest and informative salesman pointed out that many of the phones were manufactured by the same company but were marketed/distributed with a different brand name and sold with different price ranges for the same phone. We find this to be pretty common in the electronics industry. We often end up paying a bit more for a more recognized brand name.
Of the three brands you mentioned an interest in, I've only owned a black Wismec RX200. Exterior paint wore off uncommonly fast and I ended up fitting it with a silicone sleeve. It also eventually succumbed to a loose 510 connector (a notorious fault I wasn't aware of until long after I had purchased it). I think I got about year out of it as my main mod. Despite being a 3 battery mod, battery life kind of sucked. I suspect its chip either wasn't very battery efficient or it had a high battery voltage cutoff.
Not sure if that helps in your decision, but that was my experience to share.
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I’ve always thought of wismec as being kind of the Chrysler of vaping. Cheap, not unreliable exactly, but not great, occasionally come up with some genuinely stupid manufacturing errors, but usually more serviceable than bottom end options.
Fascinating. They’re apparently trying to do trim levels like car companies or something. I actually think eleaf makes better stuff than wismec. Shows what I know. It’s all the same stuff apparently.
I think Joytech is considered the "parent" company.
My sister has owned a few Eleaf iStick 30 watt mods over the last 3 - 4 years. She seems to need to replace them when they fall apart. I remember her dog knocked one off of the coffee table and it fell apart, so they may have a durability issue. She likes the size, shape, and price of the iStick so she keeps buying the same mod.
@Kennneth , have your looked at the Geekvape lineup of Aegis mods? They are shockproof, waterproof, and dustproof.
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Eleaf, Joytech and Wismec all fall under the same parent company which I believe (but could be wrong) is Joytech.
As for smartphones. Design, in terms of aesthetics, battery capacity and storage, is usually specific to that make and model phone. However, the majority utilize a Qualcomm SOC (System on Chip), and comms. Only a small handful have their own proprietary SOC. And like the majority of electronics out of China, many are made by Foxconn. Other large brands made by Foxconn are Apple, Blackberry, Dell, Cisco, Huawei, Intel, HP, Sony and Nintendo just to name a few.
As for smartphones. Design, in terms of aesthetics, battery capacity and storage, is usually specific to that make and model phone. However, the majority utilize a Qualcomm SOC (System on Chip), and comms. Only a small handful have their own proprietary SOC. And like the majority of electronics out of China, many are made by Foxconn. Other large brands made by Foxconn are Apple, Blackberry, Dell, Cisco, Huawei, Intel, HP, Sony and Nintendo just to name a few.
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Good qualities for me to have and I'll look but software/firmware is very important to me. Will see DNA eventually but small steps for now ; )
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I think I got Opinionated's opinion : )
If that shocks you then this ought to give you an extreme case of Stage III shock (or the vapors)... I have never wanted nor owned a smart phone, have not even had a cell phone since around 2008 nor a home phone since about 2005 because I have no desire/need for anyone to be able to call me. What I do have is an ap on my desktop that I can make outgoing business calls from with a headset/boom mic for a per minute service fee. It's for outgoing calls only and has no voice mail system.
DNA only matters if you want TC, in which case they’re the only one worth having, mostly. The ageis legend does decent if not impressive SS TC though. The big advantage of the geekvape ageis mods is ruggedness. There’s a jackaroo single 2x700 that is rugged as well. The only thing I know about it is that it doesn’t have a microUSB2 port at all.
A mini computer that doubles as a cellphone.. I don't use a computer to get on ECF, I use my phone..
I'm chitchating to you now, on my phone..
As opposed to a “dumb phone” which is what many people would call a pocket flip phone from 15 years ago. A smartphone is more of a tablet with a phone in it than a phone with specific “features”
Well I ain't had no DNA... yet! But I can tell you I'm very satisfied with the Pico on TC, adjust for juice how you want, same hit every time. Much better than power mode for me because of this consistency. Of course a bit of fiddling went into it ; )
And I'm a bit disappointed... no one told me if my vidy's was a pile of manure or maybe a wee truffle hidden if thar somewhar...
IF you want the same service for FREE you can use Google Voice. If you want a full fledged two way telephone for FREE, you can buy an Obahai Box for $65 (this is a one time purchase) and link it to the previously mentioned free Google Voice account, plug in a phone and have an absolutely free telephone line, for life. I have been using this for about 5 years now and it hasn't cost me 1 cent beyond the one time purchase of that box. I was so glad to get rid of my $80/mo AT&T phone line.
Edit: if you are shopping around for one of these boxes, don't get the model 100 or 110, those two don't work with Google Voice from what I understand.
Edit2: I should mention that Google Voice does not support 911. You can add this as a secondary service but this does cost a small amount of money. I do not use the 911 service myself, but it costs $12/year. Also, It does support CallerID Number but NOT CallerID Name. So you will see the calling number but not the name. Hey it's free, remember.
Other notes: Google Voice does provide voicemail, and you can log into it from your computer and use it to send/receive text message, block numbers of spammers and robo-callers, and see transcripts of voicemails.
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Alright, I’ll rephrase.
I’ve had perhaps 8 or 10 “modern” mods that claimed they were capable of TC. All of them had the setting. I could never get a decent vape out of TC on any of em on TC for more than a few puffs with it, and they were annoyingly complicated. so I assumed that TC was worthless and stopped even trying to use it. I really liked the idea. Replay came out, which is a sort of automatic transmission for TC so I thought “heeey.. maybe the reduced complication of replay will give me the special sauce to make TC work well enough to use”. So I bought a DNA mod to have it. Replay DID make it simple. Owning the DNA mod also showed me something else though: I didn’t need replay to begin with. What I needed was a DNA chip. TC wasn’t working well for me on the other devices because relatively speaking, TC simply didn’t work well on any of the other devices compared to the DNA. People bandied the term “great TC” around a lot here, but apparently what “great TC” means on a non DNA mod is “ great TC” for a non DNA mod. I never needed replay. What I needed was TC that worked well, and before I got a DNA I apparently never actually had it. I can make TC on an ageis legend work. Mostly. It’s more trouble, requires more fiddling, and still occasionally drops into anemic vape land. It’s a pretty standard though better than many non DNA TC. TC on a DNA mod just works though, and it works better than any job DNA mod I’ve tried to the point that I found TC to be more or less useless and not worth dealing with until I tried a DNA mod. I now believe there are two classes of TC on mods. DNA, and everyone else. A mod might have “great TC” within its class, but it’s still as far as I have personally tried, not as good as DNA TC. And the difference is still so great it can make TC on non DNA mods effectively not worth having. Of the non DNA mods I got the most functional TC I got is on the legend. Still not DNA level TC. I am by no means a collector though. My number of mods owned is ridiculously low compared to many other users here so my sample is quite small. There are non DNA systems I’ve never tried. I’ve never used snow wolf or a gene chip for one. Or Yihi which is also supposed to have “great TC”. What my experience tells me is that “great TC” on a non DNA mod means you can actually get it to work. Mostly. For a while. Compared to DNA TC though it’s no better than barely good enough, let alone “great”.
This is probably yet another post I’ll get a ton of angry pushback on. “You’re WRONG! My TC is AWESOME!” “Better than DNA!!” “How DARE you say that!”
Bite me. I dare a lot of stuff. It’s fine. Think I’m wrong. This was my experience. I have yet to find a non DNA TC that is really there yet for me.
Non DNA TC is not more than adequate that I’ve seen. Not even terribly close really. That I’ve seen.
I find it somewhat similar to my personal experience with opera. My dad was a giant opera fan. He had like 6 linear feet of opera records. He hand built a HI-FI system in the 70’s to increase his sound quality. I don’t mean buying individual components, I mean “with a soldering iron” hand built. He listened to it all the time. Loved the stuff. I hated it. Cow like lowing in foreign languages. I thought it was absolutely awful. Then in high school I went and saw actual good live opera. Pavarotti at the New York opera house. Just once. God knows what the tickets cost. I didn’t buy them. I was taken there by my grandmother.
I was wrong.
The problem it seems to me now was that opera doesn’t record well. Not great live opera is better than the very very best recorded opera (the acquiring of which was something of a life mission for my dad). By a lot.
The difference was great enough to get me over the “This is worth listening to” hump. I still won’t bother listening to recorded opera. It still sucks IMHO. Opera doesn’t though. I understand my dad’s insane passion to recreate it. He just couldn’t.
The Non DNA TC I tried led me to believe that TC in general was not really worth dealing with. The DNA TC I tried was good enough to make me look again at non DNA TC.
Non DNA TC is like recorded opera. DNA TC is like opera. So far as I’ve found anyway.
YMMV. Mine sure as heck did.
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