Hi all I am new here.. I was buying the 30mls bottles and they were ok.. But since living Aus.. I got sick of the waiting time and cost etc.. So this time I bought a 230ml bottle..I get the bottle delivered no worries ... I look at it is clear as water.. As I had none left so I thinking i will try it and it was just crap. So off I go to MBV and email them saying what the hell is this and they say they have begun sending un steeped bottles and assured it was Thug juice.. and say to refer to how to's on their website. So anyway it is now 5 weeks of doing the bloody waiting game on the keeping it a dark place and agitating it every day or so and occasionally breathing .. Well I must be doing something wrong!!! as it basically the same and not much better.. It is still very much clear and what I think it is not oxidised who knows?? because when i got the 30 ml bottles they were already red. So has anyone had any experience with these bottles of thug juice and how long it takes to actually steep ?? Any advice would be great, as I am only a beginner with the steeping thing TIA