Measuring Pure Nic?

[ddavelarsen]

I've been considering buying some pure nic - 99.9% stuff - from China. The thing that prevents me is not knowing how to measure to cut it to a usable level like 100mg.

Please understand that I know how to practice lab safety standards and such; my issue is calculating volumes. Can any of you gurus suggest a source or method?

Thanks for any ideas. You folks always come through for me.

 

[whiskey]

I'm not a chemist but some members in here will def be here soon as this question you have, has been addressed in here before...It is very dangerous to handle/mix pure nic..before you do anything I urge you to wait for some veterans to get on here & help you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Dkrom68]

If you dont know how to make it into 100mg then you have no right in even thinking about it. Pure nic is extremely dangerous and not something to play with. buy some 100mg from someone and even be careful with that. Dont mean to sound rude or crude but if you dont know what to do to make it into handleable Mg you dont need to be playing with it. Also 99.9 is ficticious unless you are getting synthetic Nic. There is a .2% water content in Nic and 99.8% is about the purest Ive ever seen other the synthetic

I've been considering buying some pure nic - 99.9% stuff - from China. The thing that prevents me is not knowing how to measure to cut it to a usable level like 100mg.

Please understand that I know how to practice lab safety standards and such; my issue is calculating volumes. Can any of you gurus suggest a source or method?

Thanks for any ideas. You folks always come through for me.

 

[Hoosier]

It's more than just knowing lab standards. It's actually having the lab equipment to handle it without killing yourself & others that is important.

You are asking how to quantify volume measurements on one of the most potent organic toxins known to man.

I'd feel better if you asked how to ignite a rocket fuel stream. At least if that is done wrong the rescue crews have less of a chance of death when investigating.

 

[Switched]

I've been considering buying some pure nic - 99.9% stuff - from China. The thing that prevents me is not knowing how to measure to cut it to a usable level like 100mg.

Please understand that I know how to practice lab safety standards and such; my issue is calculating volumes. Can any of you gurus suggest a source or method?

Thanks for any ideas. You folks always come through for me.

In absolute all honesty. If you have to ask you are not qualified to do it period.

 

[Safira]

I kinda have to agree with everyone else here. I keep quite a bit of Sodium hydroxide (lye) around for soaping. I'm careful to put on the right gloves with long sleeves, pants, goggles, and the kids are not around. (plus I keep it in a safe place, and talk to my kids about it) I've burned my face more than once because even with the right stuff on a tiny little drop has splashed up on my face. (lucky I had goggles on)

Plus, no matter how much we say we will take precautions, we do get complacent. A couple of months down the road if nothing has happened, you get in your mind, just this one time I won't bother putting on the gloves, or maybe you don't wipe down the counter when you're done good enough. It may not even be you that gets hurt, it may be someone else. I can't even imagine the horror if that tiny little drop of lye water that has burned my face, was pure nic.

I'm not trying to bash you, just saying seriously think about this, please.

 

[Harrysun]

Ok, you can go to xtreme vaping and get 1 liter (1000 ml) of 100mg/ml juice for $330. Still very toxic stuff ..... but workable with precautions. If you cut that in half with VG or PG you end up with 2000 ml of 50mg/ml juice ..... still a tad high for vaping. So you cut it in half again and end up with 4000 ml of 25 mg/ml of juice. Still too high for a lot of people but we'll go with it.

4000 ml of 25mg/ml ($330) + VG/PG ($20) = $350 invested

$350 divided by 4000 ml comes to .08 per ml

Chances are you will be diluting that down even more to get to the mg/ml you regularly smoke or sell. So it'll end up being less than 8 cents per ml.

Less than 8 cents a ml! Are you really looking to get it cheaper than that? With the insane risk of using pure nic I would look into some 100mg/ml stuff before I took any chances.

Don't get me wrong .... 100 mg/ml requires precautions as well.

~Harrysun



~Harrysun

 

[ddavelarsen]

Thanks folks, I appreciate your concern. I got the same story when I started working with 100mg stuff. No one's been harmed and this place is ... well, locked down. Anyway, I'll track down a chemist somewhere and find the info I need. I'm interested in doing this in large enough quantities that 100mg liquid gets too far into the cost column. Though frankly, flavoring costs a whole lot more than nicotine does. Anyway, thanks for your caring.

 

[gnerdman]

...If you cut that in half with VG or PG you end up with 2000 ml of 50mg/ml juice ..... still a tad high for vaping. So you cut it in half again and end up with 4000 ml of 25 mg/ml of juice...
~Harrysun

~Harrysun

Juice with a concentration of less than 48mg/ml is a complete waste of time for me. I just flat out couldn't vape at anything less. I wasn't a "casual smoker" - my habit was a pack-and-a-half plus a day of Kool full flavor. If I couldn't get juice with a respectable nic kick, I'd be right back to combustible tobacco. No offense, but your suggested first cut leaves just enough room for flavoring, and nothing more.

 

[Harrysun]

Juice with a concentration of less than 48mg/ml is a complete waste of time for me. I just flat out couldn't vape at anything less. I wasn't a "casual smoker" - my habit was a pack-and-a-half plus a day of Kool full flavor. If I couldn't get juice with a respectable nic kick, I'd be right back to combustible tobacco. No offense, but your suggested first cut leaves just enough room for flavoring, and nothing more.

.....and so it would seem. I stand corrected.

I honestly had no idea that anyone vaped 48mg/ml. Heck, I've vaped 36mg/ml that resulted in a headache if I hit it more than a few times. In "ddavelarsen"s other thread (48% flavoring) just about gets 100 mg/ml right there after adding flavoring. That's nuts ...... if it is what works however, then it is what it is.

~Harrysun