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How are the limitless mods and atomizers
Not bad. I have the aluminum model which I consider a bang-for-the-buck authentic buy. What I definitely do not like is having to adjust the Delrin ring for battery rattle and the fact that the sleeve comes off on every battery change and tends to rotate if your rattle adjustment is not spot on. MCV is another brand to consider. A Panzer would be a nice option for your first tube mech. What I really like about MCV is their relationship with 2JNT who have released 99.7% silver contact pieces for the entire line of MCV mods, including the Panzer.
 

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are you sold on buying authentic? there are plenty of high quality clones at fraction prices.
i would personally recommend tinkering with a clone before diving into a 100+ dollar genuine. just me.
the Nzonic clone can be had for less than 13 bucks, literally a STEAL considering it's once booming popularity.
I love mine to death and still vape it regularly. I love telescoping mech mods though, u might not...
the Chi You clones are very popular as well, so are the EHpro brand Caravelas, which are beautiful.
Probably the most popular clone to have ever hit the market was the Nemesis, & its a great vape indeed.
I do own an authentic buffalo and i can tell you that i adore it & have had no issues w/ it from day 1.

good luck mate, and don't forget to save some dough for that RBA/RBT on top, haha. enjoy.
 
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Kpr isn't a sir.
She's my wife.

She was referring to the fact that the switch is finicky, and requires user servicing to clean and adjust, and you are recommending the device to a new mech user.
They also aren't the best mods to use with sub ohm builds, which are popular these days.
Combined with the fact that they aren't being made any more, there are a lot better mods for a beginner, before jumping on an out of production collectible.

Well I don't agree with any of that. I get it that you just don't like them though.
 
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Panzer Clone :thumbs:
Either made by Infinite or Shenxi.
Panzers are Recessed Bottom Buttons which are much less "worrisome" and cumbersome to use than an exposed Bottom Button such as the Stingrays (although an Infinite Stingray Clone is a great Tube Mech for what they are).
If not a Panzer then any other such with Recessed Button and Locking Ring Design (IMO).

Just be careful on what Battery you use in them or any Single Battery Mech depending on what you plan to strap on top of it. Make sure it can handle the draw and demands of your Build.
Plenty of Battery Threads to research to be sure the "True Specs" will match well and safely with your Atty/Build.
Sony VTC4, LG HE2/HE4 or HG2 are great choices and proven safe by the Resident Batt Experts here on ECF. Be sure to procure from a proven and reputable Source as there are tons of Fakes and Charlatans out there on the interwebz AND at B&M's too.
Can't go wrong with Batteries from RTDVapor Batteries - Sony,LG,Panasonic,Samsung..... - RTD vapor

Mechs are AWESOME and with a little bit of research, education, and due diligence they are quite safe and easy to use. I mainly TC Vape (3 different Devices) nowadays but did hang on to 1 from my Mech Warrior days (a Hollowpoint Mech Box Mod by Silver Wolf Customs) for those times when the fancy strikes. Matter of fact,,,, Football Day and it will be raining so time to reactivate that Soldier, strap a 13/9 RDA with a dual-coil build at approx. 0.22 R, and enjoy some steam-rolling Mech Dripping Vaping today myself :thumb:

Whatever you decide, Enjoy & Vape On!
 

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After a lot of research. I think I'm going to test the waters by getting the nemesis clone. I see tons of good reviews not to mention, I'm not sure I'll even like mech mods. So it's pint less to sown tons of money!

I decided to go with the nemesis and the mutation x RDA, Kennedy or glacier. I haven't decided on that part yet
 

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Well I don't agree with any of that. I get it that you just don't like them though.

Where did you get that?
I love them. And the clearance prices were awesome (didn't you get yours heavily discounted?)
I don't think suggesting to a new mech user to buy ANY out of production mechanical is good advice.

Poldiacs (like most side fire mechs) are designed to be used a certain way, with higher resistance atomizers.
Putting a low resistance build on it will melt the spring.
There are better suggestions for a new mech user.
 
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Where did you get that?
I love them. And the clearance prices were awesome (didn't you get yours heavily discounted?)
I don't think suggesting to a new mech user to buy ANY out of production mechanical is good advice.

Poldiacs (like most side fire mechs) are designed to be used a certain way, with higher resistance atomizers.
Putting a low resistance build on it will melt the spring.
There are better suggestions for a new mech user.

All that said, I see no point in my own experience in discouraging new mech users from purchasing a side button mech. I fared very well with my first mech 2 1/2 years ago, and it was a top/side button. I can see no good reason at all to restrict new mech users to bottom button mechs. As for melting the spring, I don't think so. I vape at .7 ohm, and have no such problems with my 3 Poldiacs, or with my Roller. I cannot see how I can agree with you. Where you get this about Poldiacs and other side button mechs being made for high resistance atomizers I cannot even guess, but it's certainly not been proven out by my own experience.
 

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All that said, I see no point in my own experience in discouraging new mech users from purchasing a side button mech. I fared very well with my first mech 2 1/2 years ago, and it was a top/side button. I can see no good reason at all to restrict new mech users to bottom button mechs. As for melting the spring, I don't think so. I vape at .7 ohm, and have no such problems with my 3 Poldiacs, or with my Roller. I cannot see how I can agree with you. Where you get this about Poldiacs and other side button mechs being made for high resistance atomizers I cannot even guess, but it's certainly not been proven out by my own experience.

I was referring to
"OUT OF PRODUCTION MODS".



You are restricted by your intended usage.
Try dropping a .25 ohm dripper on that Poldiac and check the spring at the end of the day.

It's not a slight at side fire mechs, it's the way they are engineered.
They are not designed to handle super low builds, which are so popular, pre built are now made commonly below .3 ohms.

Again, remember you are advising a NEW MECH USER, so our favorite devices may not fill the bill.
( FWIW, many of my favorites won't work for new mech users either).
 

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I was referring to
"OUT OF PRODUCTION MODS".



You are restricted by your intended usage.
Try dropping a .25 ohm dripper on that Poldiac and check the spring at the end of the day.

It's not a slight at side fire mechs, it's the way they are engineered.
They are not designed to handle super low builds, which are so popular, pre built are now made commonly below .3 ohms.

Again, remember you are advising a NEW MECH USER, so our favorite devices may not fill the bill.
( FWIW, many of my favorites won't work for new mech users either).

Firstly I never would coil at .25 ohm, I regard that as quite simply insane, and secondly I would NEVER use a dripper. Which spring are you talking about? There's only one in it, and that's in the bottom cap. The button is magnetic. As for super low ohm builds I've no interest in them at all. That they are so popular was accounted for by PT Barnum.
 

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Firstly I never would coil at .25 ohm, I regard that as quite simply insane, and secondly I would NEVER use a dripper. Which spring are you talking about? There's only one in it, and that's in the bottom cap. The button is magnetic. As for super low ohm builds I've no interest in them at all. That they are so popular was accounted for by PT Barnum.



Yes, but we all dont vape like you now do we?
If we did, you wouldn't have gotten that sweet deal on the Poldiac you like so much.

;)
 

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After a lot of research. I think I'm going to test the waters by getting the nemesis clone. I see tons of good reviews not to mention, I'm not sure I'll even like mech mods. So it's pint less to sown tons of money!

I decided to go with the nemesis and the mutation x RDA, Kennedy or glacier. I haven't decided on that part yet

for a good starter
i recommend the astro, king or chiyou
in that order.
they are all m21x1 threaded;
the astro is telescopic, and uses floating centerpin.
the king uses hexagonal rings at the two practical locations for finger tightening.
you can get spare m21x1 ("chiyou") kick tubes and topcaps from fasttech.

i use a nemesis almost exclusively for the last 6 months only because i got a 3d rda at that time, which threads directly onto the nemesis m20x0.5 tube; no 510 interface to worry about.

the nemesis also feels lighter that my chiyou king or astro;
and the button is easier on the fingers because it's slightly rounded on the edges;
the bottom cap/switch at first seemed wonky to me but after a few months i understood it.
 
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A good quality Panzer clone can be had for £20, but they are chunky, like, well like a a tank.
My personal favorite is the Stingray X, though a clone is probably going to be your best choice as authentics if you can find one are $230+. Copper on the inside, steel on the outside, floating 510 pin and beautiful as hell.

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The spring at the bottom of the Poldiac is a Hot Spring, made to collapse under temps generated by higher current running through the battery. Great mod, just not ideal for higher current. Like, anything approaching an ohm on a 20 amp battery higher current.
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And I don't care what anybody says, the switch on the Poldiac, though a great switch, is a flat out PITA to maintain. Have fun aligning all of the switch components for reassembly. I never much enjoyed the process.
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All this being said, the Poldiac is an incredibly well made, gorgeous mod for the limited purposes it was designed for. Here's a pic of my beauty from the old days...
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Firstly I never would coil at .25 ohm, I regard that as quite simply insane, and secondly I would NEVER use a dripper. Which spring are you talking about? There's only one in it, and that's in the bottom cap. The button is magnetic. As for super low ohm builds I've no interest in them at all. That they are so popular was accounted for by PT Barnum.

Building below .25 is "Insane",,,
and "NEVER use a dripper"...
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Believe Twain said it best;
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Firstly I never would coil at .25 ohm, I regard that as quite simply insane

I dunno, seems like any good continuous discharge rated 20A battery would have no over-current problems at <17A. Indeed, a bit of headroom.

And <71W is not exactly lighting the Chrysler building. Pretty mid-ground for mod power methinks.

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As good folks like Mooch and the like have provided us with quantifiable, testable, and accurate battery ratings, people are more confident about the actual limitations and capabilities of their batteries. Knowing your battery limits through practical testing is much safer than relying on a battery wrapper. As a result of this justifiable confidence in our battery ratings, we can very safely vape at much lower resistances than we could even two years ago. The time's they are a changin'.
 
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