mechanical box mod fire button

[windxrunner]

I'm looking into making a mechanical box mod. I need a button that can handle high amps, I plan to sub ohm with it, probably down to .1 ohms. suggestions?

I know what I'm doing, please don't scold me.

 

[windxrunner]

2X New Momentary Push Button Off on Switch 12V 60Amp 110V 19mm | eBay

I'm looking into this. It says it can handle 60 amps. That's cool, cos I'd rather get something like this and not have to mess around with a mosfet. But it says it works from 12v-240v. Does anyone know if this will work for my purpose? I'm never going to be exceeding 4.2v, so I'm curious if it will work...

 

[iamthevoice]

I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but if you're not sure why that switch would not work, it would be kind of risky to build a mod to handle 0.1 builds...

For your information, I'm not sure that switch would perform under the voltage provided by 18000 series batteries. If you take a look through the Digikey catalog, I'm sure you'll find the correct type for your application! Good luck!

 

[windxrunner]

I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but if you're not sure why that switch would not work, it would be kind of risky to build a mod to handle 0.1 builds...

For your information, I'm not sure that switch would perform under the voltage provided by 18000 series batteries. If you take a look through the Digikey catalog, I'm sure you'll find the correct type for your application! Good luck!

I do not take that the wrong way, and I see your point, but the ones that know why had to start somewhere, you know? I REALLY do not want any danger in my vaping. Fun and Explosions do not go well together in my book. I'm learning, that's for sure. I'm pretty confident I'll get any kinks in my knowledge sorted out along the way, I've been doing a lot of extensive research,,,and worst case scenario, if I get to building it and I just don't feel comfortable with what I got going on, then I will just stop and figure out what needs to be figured out before I go any farther.

 

[supertrunker]

I'll not nag anyone, but i'd be fascinated to know what batteries you plan on using.

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[windxrunner]

Also, I'm not planning on vaping that low all day long, but I occasionally build that low for fun on my mechanical builds, and would like my unregulated box mod to be no different in that regard. If I need to go and switch to my mech just to handle a specific build, then it's kind of pointless to me.

 

[windxrunner]

i've got two sony vtc4's i'm saving for this project. they will be married. they will not separate. left for left side, right for right side. never to be divorced.

edit: i should add that these two VTC4's have never been used for any other application.

 

[windxrunner]

though i was tempted to mess with you and tell you I was putting a bunch of AA's together.

 

[iamthevoice]

The issue is never the hardware specifically, but the batteries we choose to use in this hobby. I keep waiting to see someone put together a "home" mod that runs on batteries able to handle high loads safely (well, relatively safely!). I know that ultra low builds can be built easily and run safely, but the margin for error is pretty slim and add to that the portability factor (which just adds another layer of variables that can quickly erode that already slim margin). But I see your point of building a device for everyday vaping but capable of supporting ultra low builds. Perhaps you could locate a device who's switch you like and then figure out the manufacturer? Switches are as subjective as flavors I find! Would love to see some pics of what you come up with!

 

[windxrunner]

that's what I've been trying to do, actually. Vapingwithtwisted420 just reviewed a dual 26650 unregulated box mod that had a 202 amp fire button. i saw that today and was like, "now that's what i want on mine." but i have yet to locate it. that would just give me soooo much reassurance, you know? 202 amps??? never, ever would anyone come even close to touching that!

edit: yeah I just did the math and that's like .02 ohms. NO. almost 900w.

 

[windxrunner]

i will definitely post pics. might even film the build, who knows?

 

[B2L]

though i was tempted to mess with you and tell you I was putting a bunch of AA's together.

Ohhh, you don't want to mess with the Trunker

 

[classwife]

Moved to the Modding Forum from APV Discussion

 

[WKS01]

...a dual 26650 unregulated box mod that had a 202 amp fire button. ...but i have yet to locate it.

You cannot locate it because it does not exist. If you want to add some safety to your build look at adding a mosfet to the build. Doing so will open your options of switches up tremendously.

 

[Vlad1]

I'm looking into making a mechanical box mod. I need a button that can handle high amps, I plan to sub ohm with it, probably down to .1 ohms. suggestions?

I know what I'm doing, please don't scold me.

Look into MOSFET, they're easy to integrate and take the load off the switch.

Edit: sorry didn't notice WKS01 already stated this.....

 

[Vlad1]

that's what I've been trying to do, actually. Vapingwithtwisted420 just reviewed a dual 26650 unregulated box mod that had a 202 amp fire button. i saw that today and was like, "now that's what i want on mine." but i have yet to locate it. that would just give me soooo much reassurance, you know? 202 amps??? never, ever would anyone come even close to touching that!

edit: yeah I just did the math and that's like .02 ohms. NO. almost 900w.

Did you notice the fallout in the comment section of that review? Probably 95% of the comments were negative in part due to the $160 price tag for $20 in parts and for using a "Custom" 2.5-4 amp switch for that load. Watch this at about 7:00 into it to see what Plumes of Hazzard thinks of these dual 26650 Hammond boxes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm5XQ-3gSWE&list=UU8sdPIokj4tMPiSpwR8zX2g

 

[windxrunner]

Well, I have decided to use a mosfet. I have to make a decision on how to wire it, though. What would you suggest? I am also going to start a new thread asking opinions on this matter specificially, but here's the two I'm considering.

One has the positive going from the mosfet, to the switch(es), to the batteries, then to the atty.

The second has the positive going from the batteries to the switches, then that positive wire joins the mosfet wire coming from the gate before they both become one and go to the atty.

The second one is safer, is my first impression. what do you guys think?

 

[Vlad1]

Well, I have decided to use a mosfet. I have to make a decision on how to wire it, though. What would you suggest? I am also going to start a new thread asking opinions on this matter specificially, but here's the two I'm considering.

One has the positive going from the mosfet, to the switch(es), to the batteries, then to the atty.

The second has the positive going from the batteries to the switches, then that positive wire joins the mosfet wire coming from the gate before they both become one and go to the atty.

The second one is safer, is my first impression. what do you guys think?

I don't see any difference in safety using a P-Channel or N-Channel as all your doing with either is off loading the source current to the transistor vs running it through the switch. In order to do that all you have to do is complete the circuit and that can be accomplished with either the negative or the positive.
If you cant find what your looking for here you might try breaktru site, a lot of good electronic modding info there. Here's a couple images I nabbed from there showing each.

 

[disturbed1]

Here is a link to a thread I started in another forum. might help you out a bit.

Switches?

 

[rhelton]

I watch Plumes every week and was going to comment about a mosfet. If you dont know its easy to get sucked in with all of the b.s. that is being sold out there. Its a 3 dollar part to add and gives you the protection you need. There really are alot of smart people here that have figured this stuff out. I am grateful without a doubt.

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