Merged old Janty Stick sticky threads

[funkybozu]

That dry burn thing has worked really well for me. If an atty is wimpy, and dry vaping and restarting didn't do the trick, I do this. Once it's dry of juice, or nearly so, remove the cart and push the button watching the bridge/coil in the atty. It'll glow (or should). Let it do that for 3 or 4 seconds. Let off the button and let it cool to room temp. Repeat 3 or 4 times, then give it another shot. Might take more or less times, more or less time on the button, but you get the idea. It'll eventually burn off the gunk. Use at your own risk, but if you're just gonna toss the wimpy atty in a draw anyway, you don't have much to lose.

the dry burn gets a bit of getting used to, i killed at least 2 attys getting it right. but once you know how to do it, it really does work
i found that being patient and letting the coil glow less and doing it a few times more works better than a long burn

 

[Elendil]

Well mine doesn't work out of the box..

and yes.. atomizer is properly screwed.

The light from the leds goes on but atomizer doesn't heat a sh*t, so i' don't know if the problem is tha atomizer (i haven't a spare one) or the stick itself.

I'm still waiting a JantyShop aftersales dept. answer about what to do.

Meanwhile i have order another atomizer to try and discard this as a problem ..

damm luck

Get a pair of needle nose pliers and try giving an aditional turn. I know you feel it is tight, but with the sealent in the v2, it is often not. As an alternative, take the atty back out and check the threads. cleanout and sealant in the threads and try again.

 

[quovadis]

I have 3 of these Sticks here and have been testing them thoroughly.

It's a very well designed unit in theory, but in practice this stick is a moving target. A lot of trial and error is needed.
When it works it's really good.

It's difficult to get a good balance between not enough liquid and too much.
If too little we get an awful burn smell. If too much we get liquid in the mouth.
Sometimes with the correct amount i also get a burnt taste.
The atty needs to be broken in, and after a few days of vaping, the dynamics change even more. Further adjustment is needed.

There's a lot of liquid deposit outside the cart and in the shaft.
Sometimes i pull the atty out and it's wet along the shaft.

It's not an easy unit to use.
We definitely need pliers to tighten the atty.

I find that laying it flat is not a good option. An upright stand needs to be made for this unit.

Anyway, i sort of love it and hate it at the same time.
Another point is that i can taste flavors better with the 510 than with the stick.

With the Janty i am under the impression the flavor get's lost in one large burn.

Using the stick i end up with liquid everywhere, i need a cloth to continuously wipe stuff down.

Battery is great, its lasts for ever.
The usb plug is great.

Great product but needs retooling to iron the bugs out.

 

[gjrhine]

You can substitute another PV most of what you said and it would still be true.

 

[fiddler]

2. The V2 switch is better glued and should not come loose easily

I originally posted that "the switch is peeling off and sliding around." The object that was peeling off was just a plastic covering, not the switch itself, which now appears to be solidly connected.

Sorry for the misinformation.

While I'm at it I can report that the JS seems to deliver a somewhat better hit than the V1 (and I'm using the original supplied atomizer). There is also no sign of leakage.

Janty has successfully responded to complaints about the V1 and produced a compact and very useable device.

 

[Serendipity]

My blue light comes on but only 2 out of 5 times do I actually get any vapor from it. I don't know why it's doing this but it's *very* annoying.

 

[gjrhine]

Sounds like your atomizer is making sporadic contact. Put it back in nice and tight.

 

[Cori]

I've got a V2 that replaced a defective V1 I had purchased. I've used my V2 less than 30 mins total because I've been using my 510. My V1 was replaced because all it did was flash red when you pressed the button. Now my V2 is doing the same thing. I've tried replacing the atomizers, the battery, and using it directly off USB and it still just flashes red all the time. I'd appreciate any and all help with this matter. I really hate having to send this unit back. Perhaps my atomizer isn't screwed in tight enough or something? Any and all help appreciated. Thanks

 

[RenaissancePuffer]

It's difficult to get a good balance between not enough liquid and too much.
If too little we get an awful burn smell. If too much we get liquid in the mouth.
Sometimes with the correct amount i also get a burnt taste.
The atty needs to be broken in, and after a few days of vaping, the dynamics change even more. Further adjustment is needed.

This sounds a lot like too much juice and also too much filler in the cart. You are correct about further adjustments needed, however, I am not convinced that it is to the device itself, but to the methods that the device is used.

My method:
I have a nice long pushpin from my office (one that I use to tack up notes in my cube), I will make a custom cart with a straw mod inside, take the correct amount of filler (less can be more here, just be careful, too little and your juice will go into the atomizer too quickly and flood), place the straw in the corner of the cart so that it goes into the deep portion of the cart at an angle a bit. (Read the thread on the straw mod for details on how to cut the straw, etc.)

Then I take my long pushpin and push back in the corner of the filler, and drop my liquid down into that corner so that it gets to the bottom of the cart, then I take the push pin out, push through the top of the filler in several spots to push out any air, and also to allow the liquid to go further into the filler. Then I top off my cart until its nice and moist on top.

If all is well, you should be able to drain your cart fairly dry, though the bottom of the cart is always the hardest to dry up I've found, so you can always save that juice by pulling out the filler and pushing it through a syringe, then top your carts off with that, or store in an empty bottle for when you can. If you're tasting a burnt taste, your atomizer is not getting enough liquid, if you still see liquid in your filler, then your filler is likely too dense. Always test these things with your best atomizer so that you know you're not dealing with an quirkly piece of hardware.

I am still trying to perfect this, and it's always hit or miss at first, but once I get it right, I can vape on that cart for a while, and the filler stays good for a few days, so the upkeep won't be so bad.

I hope this helps.

 

[Vaping Away]

I read about all problem before I purchased my v2. Had for about 2 weeks, but no problems (ok, I did put a tape over the button as soon as I got it, just in case). I put away my SD, 901, and all others. Now I use JS, nothing else.

Did I just get lucky with non-defective unit? Are there that many defective units? Or mine is likely to fail any day now?

Just wondering..

 

[Cori]

I don't think there is many that are defective, I've just been unlucky lol. No seriously, I bought two V1 sticks at the same time. One went bad and got replaced and the other is still going strong. It's just my new V2 thats giving me a problem now *gave the other V1 to my son as a gift*, anyway I'm sure Janty will resolve the issue. All new products go through growing pains.

 

[tmbrown327]

I've got a V2 that replaced a defective V1 I had purchased. I've used my V2 less than 30 mins total because I've been using my 510. My V1 was replaced because all it did was flash red when you pressed the button. Now my V2 is doing the same thing. I've tried replacing the atomizers, the battery, and using it directly off USB and it still just flashes red all the time. I'd appreciate any and all help with this matter. I really hate having to send this unit back. Perhaps my atomizer isn't screwed in tight enough or something? Any and all help appreciated. Thanks

It is definitely possible that your atty is not screwed in tight enough. Sometimes the sealant in the V2 gets on the threads. Unscrew your atty and see if you see any of the black, rubbery debris on the threads. If you do, that's probably what's causing your problem. Tightening (hard) and removing it several times, cleaning as you go, may resolve the issue.

You know the stick will not operate on USB without a battery, right? If you have shorted batteries (doesn't seem likely you'd have more than one, but who knows), it will act just like it doesn't have a battery (I think).

Good luck.

 

[Serendipity]

My V2 sucks so bad that I've went back to my fubar'd v1. V1 has the back peeling off, leaks like a pregnant woman and I dropped v1 in a cup of coffee. v1 is kicking v2's ....

I'm not usually one to complain but this is really the pits.

 

[Cori]

I checked the threads on the atty but no joy. I didn't see any black rubbery residue. I tightened it and checked it with a pair of pliars so I know its not loose. I know it will work off USB normally but it doesn't work at all on USB either..just flashes. My sons V1 is still going strong.

Ethan has contacted me and will be replacing my V2. I'll be sending the old one in, so perhaps they can inspect it and figure out what went wrong. Janty has been good about replacing these, I have no complaints.

 

[Kate51]

@pekulior:

I'm "training" it for 3 days now! If it was a dog, it would have learned to fetch by now
The funny thing is that i get this "erratic" behavior even with my mini pipe atomizers, which are well "trained"...
And, no, it's not out of liquid

@RenaissancePuffer:

I have used Janty liquid, as well as EcoPure (VG).

I know you said the atty is screwed in all the way, but sure sounds like it isn't. Check the position of your bridge, you know, like 11 o'clock, try to tighten and see if it changes. I have a rubber-tipped ball point pen (a fat one) I use the first few times with a new atty.
Sometimes a quarter-turn or less is all it takes to connect firmly. Also make sure your connection surfaces are clean and dry for the best heat. Your can use quite a bit of muscle.
What we need is a tool that works like a pipe wrench from the inside of the atty!

 

[RenaissancePuffer]

Someone had mentioned that the cart caps on the kissbox carts fits on the outside of the atomizer, and it works really well at screwing it into the stick for me. No issues.

 

[RenaissancePuffer]

I've got a V2 that replaced a defective V1 I had purchased. I've used my V2 less than 30 mins total because I've been using my 510. My V1 was replaced because all it did was flash red when you pressed the button. Now my V2 is doing the same thing. I've tried replacing the atomizers, the battery, and using it directly off USB and it still just flashes red all the time. I'd appreciate any and all help with this matter. I really hate having to send this unit back. Perhaps my atomizer isn't screwed in tight enough or something? Any and all help appreciated. Thanks

I wasn't sure what could cause this until last night. I was vaping all night off of the usb cord hooked up to my laptop docking station. I started around 5:30PM, and around 10:30PM it started to just blink red lights after I pressed the button. I thought to myself, oh crap, I read about this!

Then I looked at my docking station and realized that I had taken my laptop off around 5:30PM when I finished working, so there was no power going to the USB port. The battery was pretty much empty

So, you may want to try a known good battery. If those blinking lights mean the same thing, it sounds like there is not enough power in the battery to run the stick.

 

[fronter]

Get a pair of needle nose pliers and try giving an aditional turn. I know you feel it is tight, but with the sealent in the v2, it is often not. As an alternative, take the atty back out and check the threads. cleanout and sealant in the threads and try again.

Using pliers !!!

It worked !!!

But WTF? i have removed it and tried to screw it again with bare hands and didn't work again, i have pushed hard really hard, and it was tight (i couldn't get the atomizer out without unscrewing it.. )

So does this mean that everytime i leave home then i need to take out my toolbox with me..

Well ..almost 6 months of vaping, several models, a few of issues and this is the first time i felt like a stupid..

If KISS box stands for Keep It Simply, Stupid

JS stands for Just for Strongs

 

[tmbrown327]

I had a similar problem with one atomizer (which worked properly in another stick). When I used another atomizer in the problem stick, it worked fine. Might just be a tolerance mismatch on the threading, something fairly subtle.

 

[Cori]

Ok guys an update, I've tried pliars, different atty's, different batteries etc.. still no joy. I charged a battery up using my son's V1, took it out of the V1 and placed it directly into the V2 and it still blinks. I also charged up a few batteries using my wall charger..still nothing.

As for the USB port, its a desktop with an UPS unit, that stays on 24/7. I also tried a USB Hub, that has its own wall charger. Same problem, same result.

So in total I've tried 4 batteries, 4 atty's, tightened and retightened, tried USB passthrough through two different sources. It's dead I'm telling ya lol. All the atty's, bats, and passthrough work fine on son's V1.

Thanks to all of you who have tried to help, much appreciated.